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feels almost all Queer Media is about some gay Americans buying McDonald's and Bud weiser then don't gently caress or whatever I do not like it
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temple posted:Shawshank and Forrest Gump were enjoyable and people today prefer movies that make them feel like poo poo. oh yeah, speaking of that, Midsommar was super boring and tedious
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Jan 4, 2024 14:38
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I bounced clean off of Wednesday and it's wild that so many of my friends loved it. I don't want to say that I don't get why it's so popular because that's obvious - it's really just a mash-up of other successful things (the boarding school vibe of Harry Potter and other media, the CW-ness of various and sundry teen romantic entanglements, etc.) with a goth-adjacent lead but christ what a dull loving show. My biggest nitpick - which I could be misremembering because I'm not interested in revisiting to clarify - is that Wednesday has psychic abilities gained through Morticia's family line, but the colonial flashbacks she has put her in the space of Goody Addams, which would be Gomez's lineage. Just call her Goody Frump! That's like a two second script fix! Give at least half a poo poo about the media you create!
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Jan 4, 2024 14:45
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steinrokkan posted:I enjoy the gradual ensmallening of the"classic" Simpsons among the purists. The boundaries get pushed in every year - now we are to only seasons 2-8, everything else being total trash. Soon there will be one still image from a season 5 episode that will be considered an unimpeachable masterpiece, while everything else will be called a crass imitation of its perfection. "Seasons 2-8" has collectively been the agreement among Simpsons fans online for over 20 years now. If we're being generous, maybe season 9. Source: used to post on a Simpsons messageboard throughout the 00's. People saying seasons later than this are usually just assuming that the good episodes are from later than they actually were. That's not to say that the following seasons didn't have their memorable moments, but it's as early as season 10 where the episodes are more bad than good.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:"Seasons 2-8" has collectively been the agreement among Simpsons fans online for over 20 years now. If we're being generous, maybe season 9. Source: used to post on a Simpsons messageboard throughout the 00's.
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Jan 4, 2024 15:26
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It was decided during season 15 that only seasons 2-8 were good lol ok buddy
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My housemate and I have been watching the Simpsons from the beginning. We just hit season 12 and yeah, 10 on is where you start getting some real hit or miss episodes. There's still some amazing episodes, and it's still largely good, but we're noticing the ratio slipping. The plan is to make it to the movie and call it quits. Edit: Also the episodes that aren't great often still have amazing jokes and great dialogue, but it's the total thing that just errs to "eh not great honestly".
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Jan 4, 2024 15:54
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The quality of the Simpsons has nothing to do with the plots or writing, there's a point, variable according to preference, where the voice actors start to sound just that bit more jaded and phoned in and the magic is lost
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Jan 4, 2024 15:57
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500excf type r posted:It was decided during season 15 that only seasons 2-8 were good lol ok buddy I know you're a lovely troll poster but I'll reply seriously anyway It was season 9 (1997-1998) where fans at the time noted a notable decline in the quality of the writing and the show turning more mean spirited. They held out for a few years in hopes that it would return to the quality of the older seasons, but it never did and only continued to get worse. Most fans who were obsessed with the show in the 90's checked out sometime in the early 00's.
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temple posted:Shawshank and Forrest Gump were enjoyable and people today prefer movies that make them feel like poo poo. I'm not sure. Watching revisionist history, with even the slightest bit of awareness about history, makes me feel deeply melancholy in a way that a straight up miserable film doesn't.
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The Goonies. I think it's one of those 'you had to be there' things where, if you don't watch it as a kid, you don't get it. I watched it a year or two back as a late 30s adult. Didn't get the appeal. Goonies is one of those 'child fantasy' movies with the same trope-y characters and a plot we've seen done a hundred thousand times before. Whatever.
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Disco Pope posted:I'm not sure. Watching revisionist history, with even the slightest bit of awareness about history, makes me feel deeply melancholy in a way that a straight up miserable film doesn't. Red was an Irish guy in the book and they cast Freeman because he did the best audition, kinda just sounds like you're saying they should've hired a white guy
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mweber posted:The following things are garbage: You are objectively wrong about two of these. I'll let you figure out which. Jimi Henrix is possibly the most overrated musician of all time though.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I know you're a lovely troll poster but I'll reply seriously anyway You're using the word fan but I don't think you're describing fan behavior. Personally, I am a fan of the Simpsons and I celebrate their entire catalogue, the highs and the lows, instead of being a fair weather supporter that is stuck on the episodes they saw in grade school.
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Presto posted:I'm partial to George C. Scott's Scrooge myself. Seriously, that dude was born to play that role, it's my personal favorite adaptation of the story. And look at those sweet wolverine chops he's rockin 
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Disco Pope posted:I'm not sure. Watching revisionist history, with even the slightest bit of awareness about history, makes me feel deeply melancholy in a way that a straight up miserable film doesn't.
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Shawshank is good Gump is OK Boogie Nights is the actual poo poo film that people love because REMEMBER WHEN?!?!?!?!!?! Boogie Nights has some good actors and performances and little else. It's carried by "tee-hee! pornography!" and well-timed inserts of Billboard Top 10 hits from 197X. People hate on Gump so much but Boogie Nights is the exact same shallow trite poo poo.
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ProperCauldron posted:It's carried by "tee-hee! pornography!" Lol, k.
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500excf type r posted:You're using the word fan but I don't think you're describing fan behavior. Personally, I am a fan of the Simpsons and I celebrate their entire catalogue, the highs and the lows, instead of being a fair weather supporter that is stuck on the episodes they saw in grade school. You have objectively bad taste if you still enjoy the Simpsons of the last two decades. Sorry.
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I don't like The Curse. It's boring.
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temple posted:I get why people hate Gump. Shawshank, idk. I'd like to know why people hate it other than it was popular. Yeah, idgi either. It's one of the rare literary adaptations that's better than its source material. It has excellent pacing, solid cinematography, and a phenomenal ensemble cast who completely disappear into their roles. I can understand people who say it's a bit overrated, but I honestly have no idea how someone could come away hating it.
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500excf type r posted:You're using the word fan but I don't think you're describing fan behavior. Personally, I am a fan of the Simpsons and I celebrate their entire catalogue, the highs and the lows, instead of being a fair weather supporter that is stuck on the episodes they saw in grade school. The meaning of fan can be ambiguous. It can mean that someone fanatically loves everything about it. Or it can mean someone is so fanatical that they are hyper-critical of it so they hate a lot of it.
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Lister posted:The meaning of fan can be ambiguous. It can mean that someone fanatically loves everything about it. Or it can mean someone is so fanatical that they are hyper-critical of it so they hate a lot of it. Or in this case it means that people who WERE fans of the show when it was still good no longer are, or they simply call themselves fans of the good seasons. It's really odd that "the Simpsons was once one of the best comedies of all time but has sucked for over two decades" is a foreign concept to you guys when that has been the widely accepted opinion of the show online for just as long. If you don't believe me, just pick just about any episode from season 3-7 to stream and then pick one from say, season 25. It's a very stark difference, and the new ones are objectively terrible.
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hawowanlawow posted:Red was an Irish guy in the book and they cast Freeman because he did the best audition, kinda just sounds like you're saying they should've hired a white guy Nuh-uh, could have been a black Irish dude like the guy in Thin Lizzy! Although, I wouldn't trust him if I was planning any sort of jailbreak.
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I was going to say the first episode of the Simpsons I recall that I just thought was stupid and really where I stopped watching regularly was the one where Homer goes to New York. I looked it up and it turns out that's the first episode of Season 9. Then while I was there I saw a ton of episodes in there for Season 9 that I caught at some point and I hated them all, so I think I agree with the Season 2-8 thing more or less.
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So anyway - AC/DC. Do people actually think AC/DC is awesome, or are they just saying that because they're like, contractually obligated to or something?
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Mulaney Power Move posted:So anyway - AC/DC. Do people actually think AC/DC is awesome, or are they just saying that because they're like, contractually obligated to or something? They're just drunk.
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Disco Pope posted:There's subjectivity to this, of course, but I think it's a smarter show than that. A lot of modern comedy is based around being loud or awkward, but ITYSL has almost every sketch based in the idea of rules, mostly unspoken ones, and being completely unwilling to budge on them. In autistic and a lot of ITYSL definitely feels like it's portraying things from the perspective of a neurodivergent person who is trying to do the right thing but doesn't understand the social rules of the situation they're in. The ghost tour sketch is a good example. Beyond the joke of him swearing, he's trying to make friends by sharing enthusiasm for something he's interested in but unintentionally doing it in the worst way possible so everyone gets offended and mad at him. I also remember reading an interview where Tim Robinson said he bases a lot of the unconventional language and syntax of the show on the way his young daughter speaks, particularly when she's lying to him or trying to get away with something.
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cyberia posted:In autistic and a lot of ITYSL definitely feels like it's portraying things from the perspective of a neurodivergent person who is trying to do the right thing but doesn't understand the social rules of the situation they're in. The ghost tour sketch is a good example. Beyond the joke of him swearing, he's trying to make friends by sharing enthusiasm for something he's interested in but unintentionally doing it in the worst way possible so everyone gets offended and mad at him. we've been sittin here talking all day and you all never bothered to learn my name classic line a manipulative child brain would come up with when cornered
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KISS. I have never met anyone who doesn't think they suck. Yet they have this huge fandom. Who are these people? Are they real?
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Mulaney Power Move posted:KISS. I have never met anyone who doesn't think they suck. Yet they have this huge fandom. Who are these people? Are they real? I assume they are all in new jersey
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Mulaney Power Move posted:KISS. I have never met anyone who doesn't think they suck. Yet they have this huge fandom. Who are these people? Are they real? I'm not a fan but "Love Gun" fucks pretty hard tbh.
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KISS is loving horrible and Gene Simmons is a huge piece of poo poo. The only person I know who likes them is my chud-hippy-brain damaged-cool as poo poo cousin. Yeah, it's really weird.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:KISS. I have never met anyone who doesn't think they suck. Yet they have this huge fandom. Who are these people? Are they real? They had the makeup and were in movies like KISS Saves Christmas or some such. Their music was probably 3rd or 4th reason anyone likes them.
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temple posted:I get why people hate Gump. Shawshank, idk. I'd like to know why people hate it other than it was popular. And that's before you get into the insanely bad sexual politics and general ableism. It's very well-paced Boomer hagiography, yes. Tom Hanks anchors a difficult character very well. Gary Sinese is memorable, and the movie pioneered lots of composite effects techniques still in use today. It's still a movie I would burn from history and I'm not sorry. Mulaney Power Move posted:I was going to say the first episode of the Simpsons I recall that I just thought was stupid and really where I stopped watching regularly was the one where Homer goes to New York. I looked it up and it turns out that's the first episode of Season 9. Then while I was there I saw a ton of episodes in there for Season 9 that I caught at some point and I hated them all, so I think I agree with the Season 2-8 thing more or less. What confuses people is that Season 9 isn't absolute garbage, but the episodes are increasingly mid and/or re-cycles of stuff done better in earlier seasons. The era of "all killer, no filler" is clearly done by that point.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:KISS. I have never met anyone who doesn't think they suck. Yet they have this huge fandom. Who are these people? Are they real? In my experience its either 50 year old accountants or 25 year old drug dealers
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I don't like The Curse. It's boring. The slow scenes haven't been boring me since they all seem to have a purpose, or at least they're all connected to the themes of the show, but yeah the main plot of the series is taking too long to unfold.
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Best simpsons episode is either Lisa's first word or You only move twice. Even as a kid that fake skinner episode left a bad taste
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I actually think 'The Principal and the Pauper' is a very good episode, but also extremely out of place. Yesterday we hit the episode where Homer got dressed up as a panda and got raped by an actual panda. That, uh, doesn't play very well tbh. And then the ever increasing celebrity cameos, who just appear, tell you who they are and do like one thing then leave. And now Futurama I up to... Something. I'm a massive Futurama fan and I just tapped out of the new episodes early. I just couldn't do it. When they announced they were reviving it again all I could think was "please just let it stay dead".
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