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U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Jort Fortress posted:

I definitely considered that! He seemed angry rather than genuinely curious, so it was weird.

Imagine you are a doctor and you feel quite proud of it. You went through years of med school to get where you are. You are four years into a neverending pandemic that disables people. You have convinced yourself you're going to be okay, because you're part of a cohort that's at lower risk of getting Long COVID.

And then some bozo with no med degree informs you on zoom that your understanding is completely wrong.

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CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Pingui posted:

:britain: suffering from immunity debt interest.

quote:

Professor Brown says it is possible that viral infections are worse or more prolonged after the pandemic, however: “There’s been what seems like a bounce-back with frequency of infection with some respiratory viruses, although it’s always hard to be sure, as their incidence varies year to year anyway.

This is not Covid impairing immunity, but lack of exposure to respiratory viruses weakening adaptive immunity to the viruses, so they can more readily infect when they’re circulating.”

Similarly, GP Dr Alisha Esmail says: “One theory about lingering cold symptoms is the ‘post-covid effect’, in that we had less exposure to the classical winter viruses due to quarantining and isolating, and so we’re catching up now on rebuilding our immune responses.
hahahahahahaha

quote:

Dr Esmail explains that the most common cold viruses currently circulating are coronavirus, rhinovirus, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV, common in children), and parainfluenza
i'd like to hope this is merely the standard UK piss-poor reporting, and not that a GP considers RSV to be a "common cold virus", but, well, :shobon:

DominoKitten posted:

Makes sense, it's not like last year's UK respiratory season was... Oh. Oh no. Oh dear, oh dear.

I guess it's true what they say, once you fall into debt you'll have a dickens of a time getting out of it.
the immune poverty trap

Baddog
May 12, 2001
How the gently caress did he think ADHD made him lower risk? Just zero critical thinking skills.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Precambrian Video Games posted:

That article starts with "A lack of exposure to common viruses..." and that text is a link to an article titled "AI can help generate synthetic viruses and spark pandemics, warns former Google executive".

?????

That's about as good of a source as you can get on that, I reckon.

011024
Jan 11, 2024
yearning for the wealth of early-homelessness

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Jort Fortress
Mar 3, 2005

Baddog posted:

How the gently caress did he think ADHD made him lower risk? Just zero critical thinking skills.

He appeared to exhibit Brain Smog (random misdirected anger, confusion). Another casualty of lockdowns

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
So why don't astronauts returning from the ISS have immunity debt? Or crews aboard container ships? Or backpackers? Or desert hermits? Or

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Rochallor posted:

So why don't astronauts returning from the ISS have immunity debt? Or crews aboard container ships? Or backpackers? Or desert hermits? Or

These are the same people who think that the crippling long COVID symptoms are “just deconditioning”.

Couch potatoes become unable to stand for five minutes. It is known.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
A blisteringly naive article, that nevertheless might have some value to some of you. It is an article written by a liberal long COVID sufferer, about what the Democratic Party could and should be doing in regards to COVID:

https://newrepublic.com/article/177849/biden-democrats-covid-pandemic-2024 posted:

Democrats Can’t Keep Ignoring Covid in 2024
A sudden surge of the virus is a stark reminder of two things: The pandemic isn’t over, and it could be part of the referendum on the Biden presidency.

It is well-written for what it is.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
While Delta was ravaging the country, Democrats conspired to produce the sociological end of the pandemic and take credit for victory. As Omicron entered the scene, they dismantled yet more protections and helped Omicron to be its best self, the fastest‐spreading pathogen in human history.

https://twitter.com/realLandsEnd/status/1491202387272663040

The author of this tweet has since that time lost #access to the hellaciously expensive biologic that was treating her autoimmune condition. It has been worsening in the months since.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
I was mostly thinking of the piece as useful to send to liberal family and not as an endorsement of the democrats :-P

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Rochallor posted:

So why don't astronauts returning from the ISS have immunity debt? Or crews aboard container ships? Or backpackers? Or desert hermits? Or

Astronauts do experience a hosed up immune system, though that seems to be a consequence of space travel as it currently stands, rather than any sort of dumbass immunity debt concept.

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

ajkalan posted:

Cool, my 70-something COPD-having mom tested positive for COVID today, hopefully her pulmonologist will respond to her message soon while she can still benefit from Pax. There really isn't a worse day for this to happen.

Merry Christmas!

As of yesterday my mom is finally (probably) virus-free after her second consecutive day of testing negative. Praise be to Paxlovid and having a caring, responsive doctor (and 24-hour pharmacies) so she could get the stuff that night.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

ajkalan posted:

As of yesterday my mom is finally (probably) virus-free after her second consecutive day of testing negative. Praise be to Paxlovid and having a caring, responsive doctor (and 24-hour pharmacies) so she could get the stuff that night.

Glad it worked out, sorry she had to go through this poo poo

Man I just don't know like, people are contagious for so dang long it's incredible

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Pingui posted:

I was mostly thinking of the piece as useful to send to liberal family and not as an endorsement of the democrats :-P

Yeah I'm gonna be sending this one to some of my more liberal family members

rockear
Oct 3, 2004

Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/LaSeletzky/status/1745289146833510813?t=55Fb47NgYkhOypJIydmLDA&s=19

dr. birx banned from c spam for doomerism touch grass nerd

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

oh my god he admit it

Ne Cede Malis
Aug 30, 2008

Zantie posted:

Washington State's Respiratory Illness Dashboard.




Positive clinical cases (tests administered at CLIA certified or CLIA waived labs) as reported by healthcare facility.



pre:
Cases      Changes in state counts reported:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -    + 3,417      ↑2.5%     3,417
Dec 24            -        -    2,967      + 367      ↑9.5%     3,334
Dec 17            -    2,715      294       + 37     ↑21.5%     3,046
Dec 10        2,368       84       40       + 14      ↓3.5%     2,506
Dec 03          194       37        8       + 12      ↑5.6%     2,598
Rest of '23      41       16       51       + 30              136,175
Emergency Visits with confirmed COVID-19 in Washington state facilities. Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Most recent week of data is incomplete.



pre:
ED Visits      Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -    + 1,378     ↑1.2%      1,378
Dec 24            -        -    1,282       + 79    ↑16.0%      1,361
Dec 17            -    1,065       49       + 59    ↑22.1%      1,173
Dec 10          889       72        -          -     ↑5.0%        961
Dec 03           90        -        -          -     ↓3.3%        915
Rest of '23      53        -        -          -               45,162


New hospital admissions in Washington state facilities with laboratory confirmed COVID-19 as reported by the state and HHS. Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Most recent week of data is incomplete.



pre:
Hosp. Admissions      Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -      + 319    ↓12.6%        319
Dec 24            -        -      298       + 67    ↑17.4%        365
Dec 17            -      277       36        - 2    ↑11.1%        311
Dec 10          261       12        7          -     ↓7.0%        280
Dec 03           -5       -4        1          -    ↑17.1%        301
Rest of '23       -        -        1          -               13,244
Total occupied inpatient beds (excludes ICU beds) used in Washington state facilities with diagnostic codes for COVID-19 (U07.1) and pneumonia due to COVID-19 (J12.82). Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence.



pre:
Beds in Use      Changes in Recent Counts:	
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -    + 2,632    ↑17.9%      2,632
Dec 24            -        -    2,226        + 7    ↑20.8%      2,233
Dec 17            -    1,834       14          -     ↑2.7%      1,848
Dec 10        1,792        7        -          -    ↑10.8%      1,799
Dec 03            -        -        -          -    ↑14.3%      1,624
Rest of '23       -        -        -          -               87,276
Total occupied ICU beds used in Washington state facilities with diagnostic codes for COVID-19 (U07.1) and pneumonia due to COVID-19 (J12.82). Numbers are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence.



pre:
ICU in Use      Changes in Recent Counts:	
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -      + 301    ↑16.2%        301
Dec 24            -        -      259          -    ↑15.6%        259
Dec 17            -      224        -          -    ↑14.3%        224
Dec 10          196        -        -          -    ↑33.3%        196
Dec 03            -        -        -          -    ↑10.5%        147
Rest of '23       -        -        -          -                9,968
Recent deaths certified/coded as, or referencing to, COVID-19 in WHALES with a corresponding positive lab (including postmortem testing) as reported in WDRS. Most recent two weeks of data are incomplete.



pre:
Deaths    Changes in Recent Counts:
week of:    3wk ago  2wk ago  1wk ago  This week Wkly Trend	Total
Dec 31            -        -        -          -         -          -
Dec 24            -        -        -       + 30     ↓9.1%         30
Dec 17            -        -       28        + 5    ↑13.8%         33
Dec 10            -       23        4        + 2    ↓21.6%         29
Dec 03           34        3        -          -     ↑8.8%         37
Rest of '23       2        -        1        + 1                1,442
Notes on Data and Limitations:
  • In this post I provide alternative visualizations for the overall weekly disease activity and reporting on weekly confirmed case positives, emergency department (ED) visits, new hospitalizations, total inpatients/occupied hospital beds, and confirmed deaths. Additionally I provide changes in COVID-19 activity due to backfill.
  • Trends are calculated based on the % change in the totals for the most recent week of data compared to the second most recent. This differs from the state's trend % as they are doing a % change of a % of ED visits and hospitalizations, respectively.
  • Columns with a bright bar are the new additions for this week's report. Darker columns are from previously published weekly reports. An outlined column is where previously established numbers have been reduced with this week's report.
  • These graphs were put together by using a multitude of resources spanning from the Washington State Department of Health all the way to the CDC and HHS. All of these state and federal reports use the standardized Sunday-Saturday 7-day definition.
  • Reinfections are only counted when equal to or greater than 90 days since prior recorded infection unless both samples were sequenced and found to be different subvariants.
  • All numbers except for cases and deaths are a reflection of 'healthcare encounters' and not representative of individuals nor of residence. Totals are extrapolated by applying the state's weekly hospitalizations or ED visit % to the HHS' reporting of hospitalizations and ED visits due to all causes. Beds occupied by COVID-19 is the weekly average multiplied by 7 days, and beds occupied by influenza is from HHS reports.
  • A COVID-19, Influenza, or RSV death is only counted by the state if data is complete (cause of death is attributed to the disease and there is an associated laboratory positive test with no period of complete recovery between illness and death). The only exception is that RSV does not need a test, only that it is indicated as cause on the death certificate.
---
Sources:

Thank you for posting this. It’s loving impossible to digest or understand the broken, incomplete/wrong smattering of data out there for WA.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord
Any predictions for who the vaccinated NPR libs will blame when they realize the extent of long covid acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

china?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Computer Serf posted:

Any predictions for who the vaccinated NPR libs will blame when they realize the extent of long covid acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

china?

They will blame malingerers.

If they themselves get long COVID, they will deny deny deny.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

Insanite posted:

a friend just got got a week after getting boosted. he is now blaming the vaccine for weakening his immune system.

anyone have any resources that can speak to this? I’m just a computer toucher.

The biggest risk involved with vaccines is literally the opposite: that it makes your immune system overreact and you get poo poo like Guillermo Barre syndrome.

Tell him he's a dumbass and just cause he got vaxxed doesn't mean he could go smother himself in brunch.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
I'm personally a big fan of this immunity debt poo poo because it's been 3 years since any lockdowns or quarantine or masking so it's very amusing.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Computer Serf posted:

Any predictions for who the vaccinated NPR libs will blame when they realize the extent of long covid acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

china?

I don't think they'll blame anyone. They'll have on the same credentialed dorks that told us everyone could go back to normal after the vaccines exceptthis time they'll say things like "Covid is unprecedented. Nobody could have suspected wide-spread immune dysfunction could follow in its wake."

Or somehow lockdowns will also be responsible.

Zantie
Mar 30, 2003

Death. The capricious dance of Now You Stop Moving Forever.
Bold lines in the tables are new since the previous update.

Olympic Peninsula & Northwest Wash.

pre:
Olympic Peninsula & Northwest Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Jefferson	PT	(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 50%
Mason		n/a	(1)	Jan-06	DOWN	   - 80%
Skagit		ANA	(1)	Jan-04	STEADY	   ±  0%
Skagit		MV	(1)	Jan-04	STEADY	   ±  9%
Whatcom		LYN	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 70%
North Puget Sound [1 of 2]

pre:
North Puget Sound [1 of 2]
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Island		COUP	(1)	Jan-05	UP	   + 35%
Island		OH	(1)	Jan-05	DOWN	   - 15%
Snohomish	ARL	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 75%
Snohomish	EVR	(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 55%
Snohomish	STAN	(1)	Jan-03	STEADY	   ±  7%
Snohomish	256	(3)	Jan-05	DOWN	   - 35%
North Puget Sound [2 of 2]

pre:
North Puget Sound [2 of 2]
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
King		BWT	(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 20%
King		KCS	(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 35%
King		WSPT	(1)	Jan-02	UP	   + 40%
South Puget Sound & Southwest

pre:
South Puget Sound & Southwest
County		Shed ID		Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Clark		MRPK		(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 20%
Clark		SNCK		(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 45%
Clark		VWS & 2534	(1)&(2)	Jan-03	UP	   + 30%
Lewis		n/a		(1)	Dec-30	UP	   + 45%
Pierce		CC		(1)	Jan-05	UP	   + 40%
Pierce		PUY		(1)	Jan-04	STEADY	   ±  6%
Thurston	LOTT		(1)	Jan-03	UP	   + 50%
North & South Central Wash.

pre:
North & South Central Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Benton		WRCH	(1)	Jan-04	DOWN	   - 10%
Chelan		WEN	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 35%
Grant		EPH	(1)	Jan-03	DOWN	   - 25%
Kittitas	ELL	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   +280%
Okanogan	BRW	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 70%
Yakima		YAK	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 85%
Northeast & Southeast Wash.

pre:
Northeast & Southeast Wash.
County		Shed ID	Ref.	Date	Trend	7-Day Change
Franklin	PAS	(1)	Jan-05	STEADY	   ±  9%
Spokane		RP	(1)	Jan-05	DOWN	   - 35%
Spokane		SPK	(1)	Jan-05	UP	   + 25%
Walla Walla	WALLA	(1)	Jan-04	UP	   + 45%
Whitman		PLM	(1)	Jan-05	STEADY	   ±  9%
Solid lines are generated from normalized and smoothed data provided by the Washington State Department of Health (WADoH Ref. (1) ), Verily/WastewaterSCAN (WWS Ref. (3) ), and Biobot (Ref. (4) ).

White diamond dots are from most recent CDC/NWSS (Ref. (2) ) data scaled to supplement missing or out-dated data when available.

Because each of these four groups use different normalization methods, different smoothing methods, and different averaging/location identifiers, the concentration of virus is not comparable between locations. See reference links at the bottom of this post for more details.

There are 33 sewersheds distributed across 6 charts grouped by region then alphabetized by county and sewershed. The tables below contain WADoH or NWSS/WSS IDs (to match their respective dashboards), Date last sampled, Trend (based on the change between the averages of the two most recent weeks), and 7-Day Change (approx. amount the trend has increased or decreased).

All data presented are smoothed in some degree to even out inconsistent sampling dates and extreme highs and lows. Most sewersheds are sampled 1-3 times a week and are published within a week. Some locations are late reporting by 10 days or more so be sure to note your sewershed's Date in the table or graph. Locations that are more than two weeks old will have n/a listed under Trend to indicate there it is out of date.

References with links to details on y-axis units, normalization protocols, data limitations, and sampling methods:

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

Computer Serf posted:

Any predictions for who the vaccinated NPR libs will blame when they realize the extent of long covid acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

china?

leftists, for not voting hard enough

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
nobody will get in trouble over it

the news won’t blow it up

the news that does talk about will be ignored by most people because the public doesn’t want hear it

people will just get sick and think they’re alone

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Can't believe Bernie did this to us again

mahler_biryani
Jan 28, 2023
This has to be satire right?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-speed-of-life/202312/are-we-thinking-of-virus-symptoms-wrongly

quote:

I recently recovered from contracting COVID-19. It was my first COVID-19 experience, and I viewed it as an honorable rite of passage

<…>

Inhaling or swallowing pathogens exposes the body to what we might call disease, which is an infection that can alter or damage cells. But a network of lymphoid organs that is part of our defense mechanism becomes alert when things go wrong. That is when the coughing, sneezing, aches and pains, and fever make us feel miserable while working to fight off harmful pathogens until we feel better.

<…>

Why do doctors not tell their flu, COVID-19, and RSV patients to celebrate fevers, coughs, sneezes, and joint pains? Perhaps they assume that their patients already know that we already know about all the miraculous body defenses that keep us healthy.

Carry on, immune system. You are annoying, but, in the end, I appreciate everything you do.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

kazmeyer posted:

Moth juice acquired. I was planning on doing it before the end of the year and kind of forgot, then half my extended family got COVID-- again-- so I was reminded. (Funny how they can't seem to connect the semi-constant albeit good-natured ribbing about how I won't eat at restaurants and wear a mask with me being the only person they know who's never gotten got.) Was kind of worried since I switched insurance on 1/1 and yeah, my new plan has a much more restricted network of places I can go (in exchange for being super cheap) so Costco was out. Luckily, Publix is in their pharma network, Publix has Novavax, and the cost was zero dollars so it's time to RIDE THE SNAKE. Hurt like hell going in and for about two minutes after the shot, but so far I can't report any desires to crash into bright light sources yet.

Healthy young poster goes to Publix, gets pumped with massive shot of moth juice, doesn't feel good and changes - I LOVE LAMP. Many such cases!

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
On the one hand, I find it baffling that so many MDs are still talking about "immunity debt." On the other hand, a few years ago, basically all of them were also saying that we'd achieve herd immunity to a novel coronavirus. :shrug:

durrneez
Feb 20, 2013

I like fish. I like to eat fish. I like to brush fish with a fish hairbrush. Do you like fish too?
year 4 and im still using covid as an excuse to opt out of social poo poo. awwww yeah.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
I just thought of something. Does anyone try to peddle "norovirus immunity"? because drat imagine someone being ok with getting norovirus because "oh it will give me immunity from puking" lmao

DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012


He sweated in an extreme fever. Four years it had taken him to learn what kind of blessing was hidden beneath the sore throat. O cruel, needless masking! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the racing heart! Two snot tracks trickled down from his nostrils. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Cough.

DominoKitten has issued a correction as of 08:24 on Jan 11, 2024

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

DominoKitten posted:

He sweated in an extreme fever. Four years it had taken him to learn what kind of blessing was hidden beneath the sore throat. O cruel, needless masking! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the racing heart! Two snot tracks trickled down from his nostrils. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Cough.

He was walking across the dark-tiled Applebees floor with a coughing friend at his back. The long-hoped virus was entering his brain.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!
Cancer is good and we have to learn to live with it. You might have mental health if you think it's bad. :psyboom: Also, if you're a millennial with cancer, it's probably cause you're getting old and certainly not because of environmental factors.
Why our fear of cancer is outdated — and harmful

www.washingtonpost.com - Mon, 08 Jan 2024 posted:

David Ropeik, a former environmental journalist and retired instructor in the environmental management program at Harvard University’s School of Continuing Education, is the author of “Curing Cancerphobia: How Risk, Fear, and Worry Mislead Us.”

We need to rethink our fear of cancer. Our dread of the Emperor of All Maladies, learned decades ago, is now out of date and doing great harm on its own.

We have feared cancer more than any other disease since it became the No. 2 cause of death in the United States in the 1920s (after heart disease). Although the promise of “the cure” for cancer remains unfulfilled, we have made great progress. Cancer mortality in the United States is down 33 percent in just the past three decades. As many as two-thirds of all cancers can now be treated as chronic conditions or cured outright.

Yet our deep fear of the disease stubbornly persists. And no wonder. Progress notwithstanding, a diagnosis of cancer is still thought to be a death sentence. When a national survey asked people for the first word that came to mind when they heard the word “cancer,” more than half replied “death.” And, indeed, this family of more than 200 types of disease continues to be a cruel killer, of roughly 600,000 Americans a year. People we know. People we care for.

But for all that harm, consider the cost of our cancerphobia, a fear that in some ways no longer matches the facts.

We now know that tens of thousands of common breast, prostate and thyroid cancers that are detected early never go on to do any harm. People “overdiagnosed” with these types of cancer are understandably frightened and usually choose more aggressive treatment than their clinical conditions require. Such “fear-ectomies” cause great harm, leading to side effects that range from moderate to severe and include death itself. We spend an estimated $5.2 billion a year on such clinically unnecessary treatment, 3 percent of the total spent on all cancer care annually.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that in 2017, nearly 16 million people were screened for cancer even though they were younger or older than those for whom screening is recommended, based on who is more likely to be helped or harmed (by false positives, the side effects from follow-up diagnostic tests, and aggressive treatment for clinically non-threatening disease discovered in screening). We spend a minimum of $9.2 billion per year on this overscreening.

A majority of people believe that most cancer is caused by environmental carcinogens. Yet we now know that cancer is principally a natural disease of aging, which allows DNA mutations that cause uncontrolled cell growth to accumulate. More than half of those diagnosed with cancer in the United States are at least 65 years old, while 87 percent of those who die of it are 50 or older.

Yet governments spend hundreds of billions of dollars each year to reduce the risk from environmental carcinogens, vastly more than on any other environmental health threat, including fine-particulate air pollution, which kills more than 100,000 people a year. We spend billions on organic foods, vitamins and supplements, as well as many other products that promise to reduce our risk of cancer but don’t. The public has voted against fluoridating the drinking water in public supply systems serving 30 percent of Americans, despite a lack of evidence to support the fear that fluoridation is a cancer risk. Fear of ionizing (nuclear) radiation, a vastly smaller cancer risk than commonly believed, has driven the cost of building nuclear power plants so high that this source of non-greenhouse-gas-emitting energy struggles to compete in the energy marketplace.

Heart disease kills roughly 15 percent more people than cancer each year. Yet the National Cancer Institute budget is $7.3 billion, while the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute spends only about $2 billion researching and working on prevention of heart disease. There is no “war on heart disease,” no “heart disease moonshot” to compare to the calls for a “cancer moonshot,” a metaphor evoked since the Nixon administration and currently an initiative of the Biden administration.

Our fear of cancer resists change, in part, because of its psychological nature. We are instinctively more afraid of threats that are personified by victims we know, that cause great pain and suffering, and over which we have no control — which is why screening is so appealing, because it at least gives us something we can do to protect ourselves.

Cancer fear also resists change because our beliefs still rest on what we learned long ago. The public is mostly unaware of the quiet, incremental progress that has made so many cancers treatable or curable. Very few know that many common cancers never kill. Our deep faith in screening belies the evidence that it has only modest benefit and does great damage, something people don’t realize because screening advocates have vastly oversold the benefits and practically never mention the harm.

We cannot absolutely cure cancer, nor will we ever entirely erase our cancerphobia. The disease is an intrinsic product of our biology. The fear is driven by ancient psychological instincts. But in the interest of both our individual and public health, we need to promote awareness of the progress we’ve made fighting cancer. We need to understand and battle both the disease and our fear, because both are doing terrible harm.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Physician, heal thyself.

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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Bald and dying.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/108202 posted:

Alopecia on the Rise After COVID, Study Suggests
— Incidence of alopecia areata nearly doubled in people who had a COVID infection

The incidence of alopecia areata significantly increased after COVID-19, a nationwide study involving more than half a million South Koreans found.

In a propensity score-matched analysis, incidence of the autoimmune form of hair loss was 82% higher for individuals with versus those without a prior COVID infection (43.19 vs 23.61 per 10,000 person-years; adjusted HR 1.82, 95% CI 1.60-2.07), reported Jin Park, MD, PhD, of Jeonbuk National University Medical School in Jeonju, South Korea, and colleagues.

Higher incidence was seen in all groups older than 20 years, with a greater risk observed both in women and men, they detailed in a JAMA Dermatologyopens in a new tab or window research letter.

The study also revealed an increased incidence of telogen effluvium -- rapid hair loss triggered by stress or other changes to the body -- among the cohort with COVID compared with the control group (adjusted HR 6.40, 95% CI 4.92-8.33).
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For their propensity score-matched study, the authors used data from the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency-COVID-19-National Health Insurance Service cohort from October 2020 through September 2021. The cohort included 259,369 patients with COVID and 259,369 patients without COVID. Patients were matched along demographic characteristics and comorbidities.

Looking at clinical subtypes, incidence of patchy alopecia areata or alopecia totalis and alopecia universalis (AT/AU) were higher in patients with COVID, at 35.94 and 7.24 per 10,000 person-years, respectively, as compared with 19.43 and 4.18 per 10,000 person-years among controls. Meanwhile, the prevalence of alopecia areata and AT/AU was 70.53 and 12.39 per 10,000 person-years in the COVID group versus 52.37 and 8.97 per 10,000 person-years in controls.

"During the study period, the age- and sex-adjusted incidence and prevalence of AA [alopecia areata] and AT/AU in COVID-19-infected patients were considerably higher than in the prepandemic period in Korea, in which incidence and prevalence of AA and AT/AU remained constant from 2006 to 2015," they wrote.
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Research letter link:
"Risk of Alopecia Areata After COVID-19"

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/2813824 posted:

COVID-19 is associated with exacerbation or triggering of various autoimmune diseases, such as systemic lupus erythematosus, inflammatory bowel disease, and rheumatoid arthritis.1 Alopecia areata (AA) is autoimmune hair loss that occurs in susceptible individuals by environmental triggers, such as viruses, vaccinations, and psychological stress. There is a growing number of reports on new onset, exacerbation, and recurrence of AA after COVID-19.2-4 However, evidence supporting an association between COVID-19 and AA is limited.

Considering this is really just confirming the link, the evidence isn't all that limited.

Edit: Looking it up, alopecia areata affects ~2% of the global population (pre-pandemic). Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0923181123002232

Pingui has issued a correction as of 12:54 on Jan 11, 2024

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
I feel like the unspoken part of this, is that this isn't happening (at least not sufficiently):
"Readout of HHS Secretary Becerra’s Meeting with Pharmacies, Pharmacy Benefit Managers, and Insurers on COVID-19 Therapeutics Commercialization"

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2024...ialization.html posted:

Secretary Becerra highlighted the importance of access to COVID-19 therapeutics and reiterated HHS’ commitment to partnering with pharmacies and insurers to better serve the American people.

On Tuesday, January 9, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Xavier Becerra met virtually with pharmacy leaders, pharmacy benefit managers, and insurers to discuss HHS’ continued commitment and partnership to increase equitable access to COVID-19 therapeutics.

During the call, Secretary Becerra reminded participants that no patient should be forced to pay the full out-of-pocket cost to access Paxlovid and asked that stakeholders immediately alert HHS of any issues that arise regarding COVID-19 therapeutics access. Secretary Becerra reiterated HHS’ commitment to ensuring smooth access to oral antivirals for COVID-19 and encouraged all providers to ensure patients who experience issues accessing Paxlovid or Lagevrio are directed to the designated patient assistance programs available for both antivirals. Finally, he highlighted the importance of continued provider ordering of commercially available oral antivirals and provider education.
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The noted terms are the liberal equivalent of yelling.

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JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


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