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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

i say swears online posted:

they better start giving a poo poo about it again soon or else he's going to lose :)

But if Trump wins they'll implement regressive abortion bans, start wars, and tank the economy for the working class!

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

it's possible mayo pete and bloomberg would have been worse. maybe klob too

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

posting on the hopey changey page

Mandel Brotset
Jan 1, 2024

i say swears online posted:

sounds like the company axed all the salespeople who hadn't closed a single sale since onboarding

which honestly makes sense,

you are banished to the countryside

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


i say swears online posted:

they better start giving a poo poo about it again soon or else he's going to lose :)

The election outcome is a foregone conclusion, he couldn't have screwed the pooch worse and alienated more people if he were working from a republican playbook on how to lose 2024. He pissed off literally everyone who should be voting for him.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The election outcome is a foregone conclusion, he couldn't have screwed the pooch worse and alienated more people if he were working from a republican playbook on how to lose 2024. He pissed off literally everyone who should be voting for him.

when is the last time you have been correct about an election

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

i say swears online posted:

it's possible mayo pete and bloomberg would have been worse. maybe klob too

I'll give you Klob but I still maintain that at least Ratboy represented an acknowledgment of our concerns and an attempt to fool us into thinking they were going to fix the problems, while Biden is an open and unrepentant middle finger to anyone with the temerity to care about things (rather than a sneaky, furtive middle finger while we're not looking)

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

euphronius posted:

when is the last time you have been correct about an election

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


euphronius posted:

when is the last time you have been correct about an election

As far as I can tell Republicans are getting everything they wanted since 2020, so I called that one correctly

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

in a sane country, Pete Buttigieg would be in the reasonable conservative cryptofascist party and Joe Biden would be in a retirement home

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I quite enjoy dunking biscoff in a strong english tea as well

I don’t know of any other kind of tea

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Mandel Brotset posted:

you are banished to the countryside

i think salespeople know what they're getting into. they're the revenue drivers of a capitalist enterprise and just below HR in the rankings of coworkers i don't want to talk to. i'd happily bale some hay with them though

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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loquacius posted:

like all of his campaign promises other than the "nothing will fundamentally change" one

Biden underpromised AND underdelivered. Literally the worst option out of two stages full of assholes

e: maybe Bloomberg was worse? debatable I dunno

Most other Dem candidates were worse, the upside of the Republican circus is that they are completely unhinged and will run on nonsensical platforms like DeSantis promising $2/gallon gasoline in 2025, or Herman Cain's "999" 9% tax plan.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

loquacius posted:

in a sane country, Pete Buttigieg would be in the reasonable conservative cryptofascist party and Joe Biden would be in a retirement home

yeah in the netherlands or the nordics he'd easily fit into the center-right liberal parties

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

Twerk from Home posted:

Most other Dem candidates were worse, the upside of the Republican circus is that they are completely unhinged and will run on nonsensical platforms like DeSantis promising $2/gallon gasoline in 2025, or Herman Cain's "999" 9% tax plan.

I do have to begrudgingly admit Joe Biden was probably actually one of the stronger candidate that could've gone up against Trump. With Trump it was just annoying insanity every single day for four years, so people yearned for the most boring candidate possible and they found it in sleepy grandpa

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

like, this would be a reasonable political spectrum I think

far-left: nationalize everything, basically socialist entryism
center-left: socdem poo poo, expand the gently caress out of the social safety net and do stuff that helps people but don't you dare seize those means buster, don't you do it
center-right: tell everyone you're solving the problems by shuffling money around various groups and hoping the open market takes care of the rest (y'know, like pete buttigieg)
far-right: probably still fascists but they're at least not lying about it

centrism still doesn't actually mean anything though, I can't square that one

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I think you have to have a rigid one party state with extreme ideological discipline and can’t afford spectrums . that is the most reasonable

for awhile at least

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Blarghalt posted:

I do have to begrudgingly admit Joe Biden was probably actually one of the stronger candidate that could've gone up against Trump. With Trump it was just annoying insanity every single day for four years, so people yearned for the most boring candidate possible and they found it in sleepy grandpa

lol

the only reason Trump ever got into the White House is because they ran Hillary loving Clinton against all good sense. Literally anyone else could have beaten him

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is *control*. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

I think in a sensical, realistic political spectrum the only workable definition for "centrist" is probably just "whatever the personal opinions are of the most influential person in the centrist party, that's officially what centrism means now"

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lol

the only reason Trump ever got into the White House is because they ran Hillary loving Clinton against all good sense. Literally anyone else could have beaten him

I actually think any 2020 Dem candidate would've also beaten Trump, it was just a matter of by how much. Trump hosed up so much he basically handed Biden the W even with the incumbent advantage and some bafflingly bad choices on Biden's part, like choosing Kamala as VP

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

ex post facho posted:

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is *control*. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

Disco Elysium is so fuckin good

ProfessorBooty
Jan 25, 2004

Amulet of the Dark

loquacius posted:

this is my meme, why yes I would consider myself an artist



Let the babies eat bombs.

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



i say swears online posted:

yeah honestly i don't know what the hell a ramp or a cycle is so i assume she's not selling HDMI cables and it's probably more like MRI machines or $50,000 software package b2b stuff

i've had minimal interaction with sales engineers over the years (and i imagine that's pretty much what most of them at a company like cloudflare basically are), but i'm figuring the ramp is just short for ramp up/training time to understand the product suite and what their specific sales cycle looks like since every company is going to be a little different. some companies are more sales driven whereas others let the product drive itself via self-service where users discover and sign up/pay by themselves. it'd almost assuredly be large 5-6 figure sales in this case, probably DDoS protection type poo poo or something given their business.

point is that three months isn't really a long time at all, and in a company of that size (CF's DNS covers the majority of the internet at this point afaik) there should be enough red tape that you can't do much of anything by then unless if you're in support or some role where you can get smaller tasks to start with. but i'm sure they still try to operate under a startup mentality, hence poo poo like this happening

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



dealing with sales people as a potential buyer sucks rear end if they're pushing demos and such on you, but some deals are big enough that you're just not gonna pay for it without someone involved on that end. saas avoids that in some cases, but even then every other product has some bullshit "contact us for pricing" enterprise tier

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

what is a sales engineer ???

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

euphronius posted:

what is a sales engineer ???

it's like a customer support engineer. just another engineer

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


euphronius posted:

what is a sales engineer ???

the guy who did the doom bathroom

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

euphronius posted:

what is a sales engineer ???

Someone who promises a bunch of stuff to a potential client that is literally impossible to implement.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

My initial reaction is that a sales engineer is someone who works on Salesforce poo poo but I don't actually know

ProfessorBooty
Jan 25, 2004

Amulet of the Dark

euphronius posted:

what is a sales engineer ???

A guy who has no design experience but gives your engineering firm free coffee mugs and "random" prizes.

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



euphronius posted:

what is a sales engineer ???

they sometimes do proofs of concept and stand up demos that use customer data and poo poo so they can see if the product actually works for them

there's also post sales engineers who are basically glorified customer support

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



honestly if you're in product they're good to listen to because they'll be straight and tell you why prospective customers do or don't purchase your poo poo and if they're very good they'll have a technical comprehension to explain why

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

awooga by 2026
Citigroup Plans to Cut 20,000 Jobs - WSJ

archive.is - Fri, 12 Jan 2024 posted:

Jan. 12, 2024 10:53 am ET

CitiGroup plans to eliminate some 20,000 jobs by the end of 2026, marking the next phase of the bank’s most dramatic restructuring plan in decades. 

The cuts will trim about 10% of Citi’s head count, which totaled 200,000 in December excluding the staff employed by a Mexico business that is being spun off. Citi detailed its cost-cutting plans on Friday, when it also announced a fourth-quarter loss. 

Citi Chief Executive Jane Fraser took over the bank in 2021 with a mandate to streamline and simplify what was once the world’s largest financial-services firm. Its supermarket of financial products and far-flung international operations, once hailed as the hallmarks of a unique franchise, now add up to a bank worth significantly less than many of its closest peers. 

“Every bank is a function of what they’ve become over the past 30 to 40 years—it doesn’t change overnight,” Ken Usdin, a Jefferies analyst who has a “hold” rating on Citi shares, said before the results were announced. “They’re in the midst of a multiyear plan to streamline the strategy, focus on strengths, take out layers of excess staff, and directionally improve. 

“We’re at the halfway point. Let’s see what the market’s reaction is.” 

Citigroup shares rose slightly in early trading Friday. 

Since taking over, Fraser has shed some of Citi’s international consumer-banking businesses and sharpened the bank’s focus on corporate clients in both the U.S. and abroad. In September she announced she was simplifying Citi’s organizational structure, eliminating management layers. The bank began layoffs in November. At the time, employees speculated Citi would ultimately cut 10% of its workforce. 

They were spot on, executives confirmed Friday. In trimming 20,000 jobs, Citi expects to reduce its annual expenses to between $51 billion and $53 billion over the next several years. Costs totaled $56.4 billion last year, including the effects of several divestitures and a special fee the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. imposed on banks after a string of bank failures last year.

“Given how far we are down the path of our simplification and divestitures, 2024 will be a turning point as we’ll be able to completely focus on the performance of our five businesses and our transformation,” Fraser said Friday in a statement.

The third-biggest U.S. bank threw a kitchen sink of charges and expenses into its final 2023 earnings report, previewing them in a late Wednesday regulatory filing. The items, including some that exceeded what Citi had forecast as recently as last month, clouded underlying results that showed improvements in several key businesses.

Overall, Citi reported a net loss of $1.8 billion, or $1.16 a share, compared with net income of $2.51 billion, or $1.16 a share, in the same period a year earlier.

Revenue fell 3% to $17.4 billion from $18 billion. Citi said the recent devaluation of the Argentine peso had wiped out $880 million of the most-recent quarter’s revenue.

Citi’s services business, which provides a range of back-office functions for companies and investment managers, had revenue of $4.5 billion, up 6%.

Total trading revenue fell 19% to $3.4 billion. Trading on bonds and other fixed-income securities tumbled 25%, thanks to the Argentine devaluation and less-volatile markets. Revenue from Citi’s stock-trading desks rose 9%.

In banking, which includes merger advice, stock-and-debt underwriting and corporate loans, revenue rose 22% to $949 million. Citi saw a pickup in fees from fixed-income offerings and deals.

Revenue from the U.S. consumer-banking arm rose 12% to $4.9 billion on gains from both credit cards and branch banking.

Citi’s wealth-management business reported revenue of $1.7 billion, down 3% from a year ago.

For the year, Citi reported net income of $9.2 billion, or $4.04 a share, down 38% from $14.8 billion or $7 per share, in 2022.

Bank executives said they expect revenue to grow by 4% this year as investment-banking and wealth-management businesses rebound. 

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003



lol Capital is incredibly pissed off that labor had the upper hand for a few months in 2021 and they are going to punish the poo poo out of us

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

https://x.com/heimbergecon/status/1745697594989252770

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

lol Capital is incredibly pissed off that labor had the upper hand for a few months in 2021 and they are going to punish the poo poo out of us

feeling this very acutely at work rn

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

so sales engineer is the person who talks to the customers and relays what they say to the engineers ?

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

i say swears online posted:

they better start giving a poo poo about it again soon or else he's going to lose :)

best i can do is some war in yemen maybe? :shrug:

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



loquacius posted:

like all of his campaign promises other than the "nothing will fundamentally change" one

Biden underpromised AND underdelivered. Literally the worst option out of two stages full of assholes

e: maybe Bloomberg was worse? debatable I dunno

not true, biden's core campaign promise was to not be donald trump, and so far he is still a separate person than donald trump

he broke his secondary promise of taking donald trump off tv when he decided to let him off the hook for the capitol riot

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

not true, biden's core campaign promise was to not be donald trump, and so far he is still a separate person than donald trump

he broke his secondary promise of taking donald trump off tv when he decided to let him off the hook for the capitol riot

i am also not anxious about Biden's tweets :hmmyes:

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