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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Darth Walrus posted:

The amusing thing about 'ninja swords' is that, like most pieces of ninja lore, they started out as theatre props. Real ninjas did exist, but they either used simple peasant weapons or the standard military weapons of the samurai clans (because the most prominent ninja organisations literally were just samurai clans who specialised in asymmetrical warfare and sold their services to any interested warlords). Easily-identifiable specialist equipment like their own special swords would go against the whole point of having anonymous spies and saboteurs. Ninjato, the straight shortswords associated with ninjas in more modern works, appear to have been completely fictional, and based on misdrawings of samurai wakizashi (the shortswords the samurai caste used as sidearms, which were both practical and readily-available for real ninjas).

This is also, for the record, the origin of those 'black pyjama' ninja outfits. Those were actually the outfits used by stagehands in Edo-period theatre, to keep them invisible while rearranging sets between scenes. Having the stagehands turn out to be ninjas and assaulting the main characters was a popular way of breaking the fourth wall as a surprise during a performance.

I love stuff like this.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Japan culture knowledge being dropped ITT, you can almost feel the cheeto dust in the air and the anime posters on the wall

(fr tho I enjoyed it)

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

fuctifino posted:

I bit the bullet last night in a rare window of lucidity and finally got around to writing my will. MoneySavingExpert recommended freewills.co.uk for a free service. It's a really easy menu driven system, and it only took me a few minutes to complete. My will is currently being checked over by their inhouse solicitors, and although they will happily send you a PDF for free, I paid £30 for an official looking bound copy printed on parchment paper. £30 compared to the hundreds that I'd have paid a local solicitor seemed like a bargain.

Once it's signed and witnessed next week, my brother will be disconnected from ever receiving a penny from me :toot:

I guess a load of you also don't have wills. With it being this easy and this free, I thought I'd pass on the link and give some of you a nudge

Thanks for the link! I do have a will but it is in need of updating.

One of my brothers (tory boy - the rich one) is one of the executors but as he has prostate cancer - albeit very slow & controlled - he's likely to pop his clogs before me even though he's 4 years younger, so I've asked one of my adult nephews also if he would be an executor (and hopefully as he is 40 years younger than me he might outlive me).

I did have a local firm of solicitors down as executors but as one of the flats here, that particular firm lost the owner's will meaning it was 3 years before probate could be granted, has caused no end of problems for the estate.

Another thing that is possible to do is to find one of the charities that pay for you to do a will via a firm of solicitors (various charities link up with various solicitors) - no compulsion on your part to actually leave anything to that charity in your will but I guess most people feel they ought to.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Darth Walrus posted:


This is also, for the record, the origin of those 'black pyjama' ninja outfits. Those were actually the outfits used by stagehands in Edo-period theatre, to keep them invisible while rearranging sets between scenes. Having the stagehands turn out to be ninjas and assaulting the main characters was a popular way of breaking the fourth wall as a surprise during a performance.

They should do that still in movies. During a very tense scene suddenly the boom mic guy and the 1st AD run into frame and stab the actors

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Darth Walrus posted:

Labour now cracking down on ninja zombies. TBF, I heard that Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z wasn't very good.
Every single time they try to crack down on swords, any definition they come up with falls foul of having to deal with Lord Ponsenby-Fuckhampton with his mansion that has two ancestral cavalry sabres hanging in every room, or the Lord High oval office of Bastard-upon-Thames who wears a sword and wanders up and down the high street shouting as part of his traditional attire.

Essentially the old 'No you can't add "Because they're rich / nice / I like those ones" as an exemption' problem liberalism just seems to keep running up against (and then trying to do anyway).


I do hope they don't ban illegal Idris Elba. :ohdear:


Darth Walrus posted:

This is also, for the record, the origin of those 'black pyjama' ninja outfits.
Weren't the outfits they used on the few occasions they did sneak around at night supposed to be dark blue?

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Thanks for the link! I do have a will but it is in need of updating.

Oops, I forgot to leave the link to the MoneySavingsExpert page

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/free-cheap-wills/

Yeah, there are a load of options for free will writing. A lot of the charities only offer the free service at certain times of the year, and I just kept scrolling down until the freewills site info came up.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Darth Walrus posted:

https://x.com/yvettecoopermp/status/1749946156979814752?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q

Labour now cracking down on ninja zombies. TBF, I heard that Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z wasn't very good.

I like that this implies the existence of non dangerous knives

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Yeah wouldn't a real ninja have dressed like a peasant and used a repurposed farm tool to kill? (Or a weaponised version of said tools)

I knew ninja jammies came from theater but I had no idea of the specifics, that's hilarious and absolutely owns.

E: ^ Well it's only the undead ones that are dangerous. Personally I'm more worried about vampire knives, and mummy knives are no joke either.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

I mean to be fair, I've seen photos of what people are calling zombie knives & they basically look like machetes but part of the blade is serrated. It seems like something that you probably don't need in London.

They're basically just whatever horrible tat you could find in American malls or nowadays online. Like a Klingon batleth but covered in skulls and more blades.

They're more a danger to the user than anything I think.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

I like that this implies the existence of non dangerous knives

You'd struggle to do much with a butter knife.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

You wouldn't butter a zombie.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

feedmegin posted:

You'd struggle to do much with a butter knife.

A butter knife is constructive possession of a shiv.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Every single time they try to crack down on swords, any definition they come up with falls foul of having to deal with Lord Ponsenby-Fuckhampton with his mansion that has two ancestral cavalry sabres hanging in every room, or the Lord High oval office of Bastard-upon-Thames who wears a sword and wanders up and down the high street shouting as part of his traditional attire.

Essentially the old 'No you can't add "Because they're rich / nice / I like those ones" as an exemption' problem liberalism just seems to keep running up against (and then trying to do anyway).

I do hope they don't ban illegal Idris Elba. :ohdear:

Weren't the outfits they used on the few occasions they did sneak around at night supposed to be dark blue?

I'm pretty sure they just used peasant outfits in drab earth tones. Much more explicable if someone noticed you than an entire 'hello, I'm a spy, please shoot me' costume.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bobby Deluxe posted:

You wouldn't butter a zombie.

Jail for a salt and buttery

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

fuctifino posted:

Oops, I forgot to leave the link to the MoneySavingsExpert page

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/free-cheap-wills/

Yeah, there are a load of options for free will writing. A lot of the charities only offer the free service at certain times of the year, and I just kept scrolling down until the freewills site info came up.

Who are you leaving the TechnoBong to ?

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

I see Sunak’s brilliant media team have come up with a cracking idea that couldn’t possibly be exploited

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1749866835380515230?s=46

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Entombed with him that he might blow clouds in the afterlife, and that no other mortal might gain its power.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Another funny thing about ninjas - ninja guns would be much more historically accurate than 'ninja swords'. The samurai warlords of the late Sengoku period (the chaotic century-long civil war that's what most people think of when they think of medieval Japanese warfare) loving loved Portuguese firearms, and the most successful ones, like Oda Nobunaga, pioneered domestic mass-production of rifles with which to annihilate their enemies. Mercenary bands like the Saika were well-known for their expert marksmen, and there was no need to get right up close to an enemy warlord and spray them with shuriken when you could just hide in a tree on the side of the road and put a bullet between his eyes.

When are you cracking down on Tanegashima matchlocks, Yvette?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

Jail for a salt and buttery

Very good. I like what you did there :discourse:

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Not me. I'm angry about that post

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Microplastics posted:

Not me. I'm angry about that post

Guess one could say you're... salty???

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

smellmycheese posted:

I see Sunak’s brilliant media team have come up with a cracking idea that couldn’t possibly be exploited

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1749866835380515230?s=46

Didn't they see that Dave Gorman episode on celebrity message videos? (Can't find a link to a clip of that now).
Wonder how much Rishi will be charging on

https://www.celebvm.com/

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
I have a collection of 'decorative' weapons of varying levels of ridiculous from my university days and no idea what their legal status is - I forgot about them until my dad died and they had to come back to live with me in London. :shrug:

Seeing as my wife works in theatre maybe I can argue they are props.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Darth Walrus posted:

When are you cracking down on Tanegashima matchlocks, Yvette?
Queuing up in the 90s to buy a video jame called Ninja Sniper based on the :krad: title alone and it's some guy pretending to be a pig farmer painstakingly loading a haakbus before hiding behind a tree for two hours.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Anything can be a weapon if you intend it to be. Therefore what you should do is have an AI decide the purpose of the objects you own, and handle them accordingly. If they happen to be trained on old samurai movies that's irrelevant.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I do hope they don't ban illegal Idris Elba. :ohdear:

That just decreases the value of legal Idris Elba!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Runcible Cat posted:

That just decreases the value of legal Idris Elba!

Idris Elba would be a good name for a strain of weed that makes you talk with a different accent

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Maugrim posted:

I have a collection of 'decorative' weapons of varying levels of ridiculous from my university days and no idea what their legal status is - I forgot about them until my dad died and they had to come back to live with me in London. :shrug:

Seeing as my wife works in theatre maybe I can argue they are props.

I think my swords are legal because they're straight. My knife might not be but it were my dad's so they aren't getting it

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Farage has done a reply on youtube to that Sunak video.

Won't do a full link, but if you want to watch it you can find it here:

watch?v=yDItTxQvJJU



According to Fromage the tory party have stopped advertising the app LOL

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Puny Zombie Knives & Ninja Swords, behold the ultimate weapon: the []cheesegrater[/s] kitchen knife!!! :kirby:

edit fuckit, forgotten how to strike through text... again. :suicide:

Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 24, 2024

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...
Free wills are an illusion.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
From reading up it appears only two of my swords are illegal due to curved blades over 50cm, though that still leaves the question of how I'm supposed to get rid of them

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

That Rishi video was AI, right? He didn't actually record a video to Farage did he? I'm so confused about all of this... lol

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Maugrim posted:

From reading up it appears only two of my swords are illegal due to curved blades over 50cm, though that still leaves the question of how I'm supposed to get rid of them
I think you're supposed to take them in to a police station when there's an amnesty on. You can't sell them, unless they're antiques and you can't send them through the post.

Unless you're a business. Every time I check if blades uk is still going I'm amazed they are, and are able to deliver by post apparently.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Maugrim posted:

From reading up it appears only two of my swords are illegal due to curved blades over 50cm, though that still leaves the question of how I'm supposed to get rid of them

just straighten the blades. Turn the sword 90 degrees even.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

You can contact 101 and get your local police them to pick up any weapons, especially if you feel uncomfortable walking around in a built up area wielding illegal swords.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 24, 2024

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Maugrim posted:

From reading up it appears only two of my swords are illegal due to curved blades over 50cm, though that still leaves the question of how I'm supposed to get rid of them
I think they're just illegal to do anything with that isn't a clearly defined cultural or religious exception.

It's a bit like countries with drug decrim, where you can't manufacture, import, transport, sell, or give them away, outside of very narrow prescription medical grounds, but nobody's going to care if they're just in your house.

Pretty sure this is even the case for switchblades and stilettos caught up in the first knife panic, they didn't find a way (or case) to ban having them in a drawer at home, but you shouldn't be carrying one about.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I've still got my dad's old swordstick I had arranged with Camrath (PBOH) to take as he was a licensed swordsperson :(
Could be useful for filleting ducks out of the river come the zombie apocalypse. Or indeed fighting off zombies.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Maugrim posted:

From reading up it appears only two of my swords are illegal due to curved blades over 50cm, though that still leaves the question of how I'm supposed to get rid of them

I'd check to see of the Legislation penalises "possession in a public place."
If that's the case then it's illegal to take them out of your home (unless you are bringing it to a police station as part of a surrender.) Or to bring them into your home.
But not, while they are inside your home.

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

fuctifino posted:

You can contact 111 and get your local police them to pick up any weapons, especially if you feel uncomfortable walking around in a built up area wielding illegal swords.
Or you know, just Viggo Mortenson it up and they come to you.

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