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DominoKitten
Aug 7, 2012

The more I think about it the more the Sedaris thing feels like this “friend” I had in middle school due to carpooling. One of those very social performative feminity sorts. One day, she looked over and asked why I didn’t shave my legs, in much the tone you’d use to ask why I didn’t shower. I didn’t know that was a thing yet. But I dutifully got the hint and talked to my mom and spent the next couple years nicking my knees with razors until I gave it up. M. wasn’t trying to be mean, she was just trying to school her awkward as hell companion of circumstance in normal girl expectations. It didn’t matter that shaving was a literal bloody pain, if I didn’t do it people were going to judge me as a weirdo.

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strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

I've been taking the Streptococcus salivarius K12 probiotics for two months and I'm convinced they really make a difference. I've had very frequent ear and sinus infections most of my life. Since taking the K12 I've been totally healthy and haven't had to call in sick once. I use the NOW Supplements one called "OralBiotic".

You're supposed to refrigerate the bottle and suck on the lozenges rather than chewing and swallowing. I take them right before bed when I'm done drinking for a bit.

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
when taking before bed / after brushing it's inconvenient that they have so many sweet ingredients that can damage teeth

Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

Shiroc posted:

I'm not gonna try to find the rest of this to inflict it on me but does he ever fully realize he's the bad guy in this or is it just a quirky anecdote for him?

His youngest sister was frequently the target of bullying and snarky remarks regarding her mental health/living conditions/etc. in pieces he wrote for the New Yorker and when she killed herself he wrote a lovely self pitying piece. He is scum.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Interesting article going through some of the more rare outcomes of COVID and how they are not all that rare. I am reluctant to post it, as it is ripe for over interpretation due to the way the authors set up the results. What it does is go through the literature to create an overview of these outcomes and their pathophysiology.

When interpreting results and while nominally IR (incidence rate) describes the percentage of a population suffering from a given condition, the studies cited here are dealing with very narrow populations. Please do not take the IR and transpose it on the population at large, that is not what these results mean. This is not a metastudy. Please don't make me regret posting it. I include the tables to give said overview of the many impact arenas of COVID and it should be noted that the IR given is the highest found.

"Atypical Complications during the Course of COVID-19: A Comprehensive Review"

https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/60/1/164 posted:

Abstract
COVID-19 is primarily a respiratory disease, but numerous studies have indicated the involvement of various organ systems during the course of illness. We conducted a comprehensive review of atypical complications of COVID-19 with their incidence range (IR) and their impact on hospitalization and mortality rates. We identified 97 studies, including 55 research articles and 42 case studies. We reviewed four major body organ systems for various types of atypical complications: (i) Gastro-intestinal (GI) and hepatobiliary system, e.g., bowel ischemia/infarction (IR: 1.49–83.87%), GI bleeding/hemorrhage (IR: 0.47–10.6%), hepatic ischemia (IR: 1.0–7.4%); (ii) Neurological system, e.g., acute ischemic stroke/cerebral venous sinus thrombosis/cerebral hemorrhage (IR: 0.5–90.9%), anosmia (IR: 4.9–79.6%), dysgeusia (IR: 2.8–83.38%), encephalopathy/encephalitis with or without fever and hypoxia (IR: 0.19–35.2%); (iii) Renal system, e.g., acute kidney injury (AKI)/acute renal failure (IR: 0.5–68.8%); (iv) Cardiovascular system, e.g., acute cardiac injury/non-coronary myocardial injury (IR: 7.2–55.56%), arrhythmia/ventricular tachycardia/ventricular fibrillation (IR: 5.9–16.7%), and coagulopathy/venous thromboembolism (IR: 19–34.4%). This review encourages and informs healthcare practitioners to keenly monitor COVID-19 survivors for these atypical complications in all major organ systems and not only treat the respiratory symptoms of patients. Post-COVID effects should be monitored, and follow-up of patients should be performed on a regular basis to check for long-term complications.
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2. Purpose of Article
This review was intended (1) to summarize a large number of research studies and case reports on various atypical complications of the COVID-19 virus in major organ systems, (2) to assemble the data on the range of their incidence, and (3) to gather information on the impact of these complications on hospitalization and mortality rates.
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4.1. Gastrointestinal System
4.1.1. Complications
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Figure 1. Prevalence of gastrointestinal complications among COVID-19 patients (prevalence represents the maximum percentage reported in the literature).
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4.1.2. Underlying Pathophysiology
The underlying pathophysiology related to GI damage among COVID-19 patients is most likely multifactorial. The most credible mechanism is direct virus-mediated tissue damage due to the existence of ACE2 receptors in the glandular cells of the intestine, in addition to the assimilation of the viral nucleocapsid protein among the epithelial cells of the stomach, duodenum, and rectum, as well as glandular enterocytes. Additionally, diffused endothelial inflammation among the submucosal vessels of the small intestine in histopathological evidence and mesenteric ischemia suggest microvascular small-bowel injury. The existence of infiltrating lymphocytes and plasma cells and interstitial edema in the gastric, duodenal, and rectal lamina propria of COVID-19 patients provides support for tissue damage mediated by inflammation. It has also been suggested that the GI manifestations and severe disease progression are contributed by the modification of the intestinal flora caused by the virus.
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4.2. Neurological System
4.2.1. Complications
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Figure 2. Prevalence of neurological complications among COVID-19 patients (prevalence represents maximum percentage reported in the literature).
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4.2.2. Underlying Pathophysiology
The underlying pathophysiological mechanisms proposed include direct invasion of neural parenchyma cells by the virus. The central nervous system is assessed by SARS-CoV-2 through the lamina cribrosa, olfactory bulb, and nasal mucosa or transport through the retrograde axonal. In the respiratory tree, ACE2 receptors are highly expressed in nasal epithelial cells, which may justify the symptoms of modified smell or taste mostly reported in outpatients retrospectively with SARS-CoV-2. The other complications are attributed to the neurovirulence of SARS-CoV-2, which reflects the prothrombotic and proinflammatory cascade resulting in cytokine storm, which in turn produces effects on the blood–brain barrier and brain vasculature. This has been particularly observed in critical patients experiencing toxic–metabolic prolongation of multi-organ dysfunction.
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4.3. Renal System
4.3.1. Complications
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Figure 3. Prevalence of renal complications among COVID-19 patients (prevalence represents maximum percentage reported in the literature).
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4.3.2. Underlying Pathophysiology
Several possible pathophysiological mechanisms have been identified for renal abnormalities. Firstly, the virus may infect the renal cells directly, as evidenced by the existence of ACE2 receptors on them and histopathological findings. Secondly, microvascular dysfunction is incidental to endothelial damage as demonstrated by renal lymphocytic endothelialitis, and moreover to the inclusion of particles of the virus in the endothelium of glomerular capillary cells. Thirdly, cytokine storm may have a vital role in the immunopathology of AKI. Another likely mechanism for glomerular injury is arbitrated by specific immunological effector mechanisms induced by the virus or viral antigen immunocomplexes. In addition, proteinuria is not considered the classic manifestation of AKI; short-term heavy albuminuria might arise from direct podocyte injury or endothelial dysfunction. Other causative etiologies for renal injury include acute respiratory distress syndrome, interstitial nephritis, volume depletion, and rhabdomyolysis.
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4.4. Cardiovascular System
4.4.1. Complications
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Figure 4. Prevalence of cardiovascular complications among COVID-19 patients (prevalence represents maximum percentage reported in the literature).
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4.4.2. Underlying Pathophysiology
The underlying pathophysiology of CV complications is most likely multifactorial. ACE2 is highly expressed in endothelial cells, fibroblasts, and myocytes of the CV tissue, and direct viral injury is one possible mechanism. Myocarditis, MI, and circulatory failure may develop due to viral load and inflammatory infiltrates, as evidenced by some autopsy studies and pathological reports. In addition, endothelial damage mediated by viruses and cytokine storms can be another assumed underlying mechanism for myocardial injury. In general, viral infections further predispose patients to MI, and this risk is elevated in COVID-19 patients, with evidence of unjustifiably escalated hypercoagulability, which induces MI mediated by thrombotic events. Furthermore, isolated right ventricular malfunction may arise due to pulmonary thromboembolism and increased pulmonary vascular pressures due to ARDS.
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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Weird wild stuff. Note that it is a mouse study and specifically it utilizes “excluded flora (EF)” mice with limited gut flora.
"Intestinal microbiota programming of alveolar macrophages influences severity of respiratory viral infection"

https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(24)00006-4 posted:

Highlights
Gut microbiota composition influences severity of respiratory viral infection
• Gut-restricted segmented filamentous bacteria reprograms lung macrophages
• Expression levels of complement and Notch4 expression impact viral infection severity
• Transplant of lung macrophages transfers proneness to respiratory viral infection

Summary
Susceptibility to respiratory virus infections (RVIs) varies widely across individuals. Because the gut microbiome impacts immune function, we investigated the influence of intestinal microbiota composition on RVI and determined that segmented filamentous bacteria (SFB), naturally acquired or exogenously administered, protected mice against influenza virus (IAV) infection. Such protection, which also applied to respiratory syncytial virus and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), was independent of interferon and adaptive immunity but required basally resident alveolar macrophages (AMs). In SFB-negative mice, AMs were quickly depleted as RVI progressed. In contrast, AMs from SFB-colonized mice were intrinsically altered to resist IAV-induced depletion and inflammatory signaling. Yet, AMs from SFB-colonized mice were not quiescent. Rather, they directly disabled IAV via enhanced complement production and phagocytosis. Accordingly, transfer of SFB-transformed AMs into SFB-free hosts recapitulated SFB-mediated protection against IAV. These findings uncover complex interactions that mechanistically link the intestinal microbiota with AM functionality and RVI severity.

Graphical abstract

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It makes me wonder what impact COVID infections in the gut might have on gut flora, and in turn what impact that might have on diseases (like the mentioned RSV, influenza and SARS-CoV-2).

Full link: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.09.21.558814v2.full

News article on the matter:
"Gut microbiota may influence may severity of COVID-19, RSV, and flu"

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gut-microbiota-may-protect-against-respiratory-viruses posted:

  • A new study in mice suggests the presence of certain gut bacteria transforms alveolar macrophages into respiratory virus neutralizers.
  • The results show that the macrophages disabled respiratory illnesses like COVID-19, RSV, and the flu.
  • The mechanisms behind this discovery are unclear, and the researchers are planning human trials to determine whether the findings can be replicated.
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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
:dehumanize:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/misc-emerging-topics/three-fourths-adults-have-hidden-infectious-illness-work-travel-or-socialize posted:

Three fourths of adults have hidden infectious illness to work, travel, or socialize, surveys suggest
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Participants said they would consider concealment when the illness was described as being moderately transmissible and as having mild symptoms.
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"Healthy people forecasted that they would be unlikely to hide harmful illnesses—those that spread easily and have severe symptoms—but actively sick people reported high levels of concealment regardless of how harmful their illness was to others," said Wilson N. Merrell, a doctoral candidate and lead author of the study, in a press release from the Association for Psychological Science, which publishes the journal.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
god this is cathartic

Return-to-office mandates aren't making companies more valuable and productive, study finds

quote:

"Results of our determinant analyses are consistent with managers using RTO mandates to reassert control over employees and blame employees as a scapegoat for bad firm performance," the authors wrote. "Also, our findings do not support the argument that managers impose mandates because they believe RTO increases firm values."

The researchers analyzed public RTO data from 137 S&P 500 firms and determined that RTO mandates were more common for firms that had poor prior stock market performance. RTO mandates were more common for firms with "male and powerful CEOs." The authors found no significant impact of RTO mandates on stock returns or firm profitability.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

productivity was never the concern. it’s the real estate value of their office

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Steve Yun posted:

productivity was never the concern. it’s the real estate value of their office

Dimon :argh:

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

The ideal corporate strategy would be to reject RtO, downsize to a smaller office for any onsite operations that aren't covered by remote work and just outsource everything else to countries where you can pay fractions of pennies on the dollar for expensive white collar jobs.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3iGPaU6MBc

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

quote:

Only 5% of participants across all studies said they had concealed a COVID-19 infection.
:thunk:

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
:ohno::brainworms:
"Clinical Characteristics of 4,522 4,520 Paediatric Patients Infected with the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Variant, In Xi'an, China"

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fped.2024.1325562/abstract posted:

Background and objective: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has broad tissue tropism and high transmission, which are likely to perpetuate the pandemic. The study aim to analyze the clinicopathogenic characteristics in paediatric patients.In this single-centre study, we retrospectively included all confirmed cases infected by SARS-CoV-2 infection at Xi'an Children's Hospital, China, from 1 December to 31 December 2022. The demographic, clinical, laboratory, and radiological features of the patients were analysed.

Results: A total of 4,520 paediatric patients with SARS-CoV-2 omicron variant infections were included. Of these, 3,861 (85.36%) were outpatients, 659 (14.64%) were hospitalised patients, and nine patients (0.20%) died. Of the nine patients who died, five were diagnosed with acute necrotising encephalopathy (ANE). The most common symptoms were fever in 4275 (94.59%) patients, cough in 1320 (29.20%) patients, convulsions in 610 (13.50%) patients, vomiting in 410 (9.07%) patients, runny nose/coryza in 277 (6.13%) patients, hoarseness of voice in 273 (6.04%) patients. A blood cell analysis showed a slight elevation of monocytes (mean: 11.140.07%). The main diagnoses for both outpatients and inpatients were respiratory infection with multisystem manifestations. A high incidence of convulsions is a typical characteristic of children infected with SARS-CoV-2. Five of the nine COVID-19 fatalities were associated with ANE. This indicates that nervous system damage in children with SARS-CoV-2 infection is more significant.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020


I don't know. From what I remember from Doomsday Econ thread, almost every companies are having pitiful stock gains and the stock market is only high because of few specific companies that's being massively pumped up. And it's impossible to find a company that doesn't have a "male and powerful CEO" because that's nearly every companies out there

Soap Scum
Aug 8, 2003



Insanite posted:

what i enjoy is that the school i'll be sending my kid to in the fall is literally falling apart. it's actually closed right now while, idk, some folks slap some rubber cement on the crumbling ceilings or whatever.

the $40k/year private school a half mile away had UV lighting added to its state of the art ventilation system in december of 2020. lol.

same story at most of the ~nice~ schools around here.

feel free to not answer for privacy reasons but by any chance are you referring to a Friends school that's not quite inside the true official major city in your area

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

super sweet best pal posted:

The ideal corporate strategy would be to reject RtO, downsize to a smaller office for any onsite operations that aren't covered by remote work and just outsource everything else to countries where you can pay fractions of pennies on the dollar for expensive white collar jobs.

This is exactly what the company I was working for in 2020 tried to do (before one of the partners embezzled a bunch and destroyed the firm). They had to expand while working remotely so they hired a bunch of people from the maritimes for 60% of what their albertan workers cost.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

This is weird, almost as if Covid does something to our immune system

https://twitter.com/JoIsSummer/status/1752429790890475828

Already got his measles vaccination and still got it

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


NeonPunk posted:

This is weird, almost as if Covid does something to our immune system

https://twitter.com/JoIsSummer/status/1752429790890475828

Already got his measles vaccination and still got it

No one could have seen this happening. Just something we'll have to live with

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Hellequin posted:

His youngest sister was frequently the target of bullying and snarky remarks regarding her mental health/living conditions/etc. in pieces he wrote for the New Yorker and when she killed herself he wrote a lovely self pitying piece. He is scum.

There is a certain shitlib aesthetic that's all about knowing that you're very smart and clever and making sure that everyone else knows how smart and clever you are, too, and he's the standard-bearer for that poo poo.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
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Toilet Rascal

NeonPunk posted:

This is weird, almost as if Covid does something to our immune system

https://twitter.com/JoIsSummer/status/1752429790890475828

Already got his measles vaccination and still got it

confirmed: vaccines don't work

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There is a certain shitlib aesthetic that's all about knowing that you're very smart and clever and making sure that everyone else knows how smart and clever you are, too, and he's the standard-bearer for that poo poo.

If he got his poo poo together he couldn't make money off his personality disorder.

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer

The Oldest Man posted:

time to do a murder so i have something to write about in the atlantic

*touches earpiece*

im sorry im being informed that joke was deprecated when that lady wrote about killing the dog she adopted to entertain her during wfh

we do not joke about killing dogs itt

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

spiritual bypass posted:

we do not joke about killing dogs itt

i dont even like to think about it tbh because my dog is getting on in years and i dont know what im going to do without him, genuinely upsetting poo poo

Why Am I So Tired
Sep 28, 2021

DominoKitten posted:

David Sedaris in the New Yorker:

It sure would be nice if anyone who pressured someone into taking off their mask were legally responsible for that person's medical bills when they get infected (and maybe even have to give them an organ or two) instead of getting a piece in the New Yorker.

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer
That Sedaris-style pressure to unmask is a relic of 2022. I had a guy at the museum ask "are you sick?" the other day and my kid's teachers still say, "oh we love to see her beautiful smile!" but people have stopped overtly asking us to unmask.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

INSERT QUACK TO CONTINUE


Taco Defender

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

confirmed: vaccines don't work

Fake news.

The vaccine gave him the measles. :smug:

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Fansy posted:

That Sedaris-style pressure to unmask is a relic of 2022. I had a guy at the museum ask "are you sick?" the other day and my kid's teachers still say, "oh we love to see her beautiful smile!" but people have stopped overtly asking us to unmask.

I still lol about "you're so brave" every few days

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

fosborb posted:

I still lol about "you're so brave" every few days

lmao

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
My spouse has another bout of cellulitis from prolonged mask wearing. I think I'm about to lose this battle as well.

He has problematic skin and it happens pretty regularly after he wears a mask for awhile (we don't go out much and work from home so it's pretty easy to pinpoint when it only happens on the rare occasions a mask is worn for more than an hour).

The future sucks.

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




My family is enrolled in a Covid study that takes regular blood draws, and tests us every week for Covid/flu/RSV. CDC just pulled the funding so the study is concluding more than a year before it was supposed to lol :thumbsup:

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
imagine unmasking because you were peer pressured by a goober with a name like a discarded hyundai model

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

U-DO Burger posted:

My family is enrolled in a Covid study that takes regular blood draws, and tests us every week for Covid/flu/RSV. CDC just pulled the funding so the study is concluding more than a year before it was supposed to lol :thumbsup:

WE HAVE THE DATA AND THE TOOLS

Pulvis Sumus
Jul 27, 2011
Had an appointment with a new primary care provider (an N.P.) who came in strapped with an N95, which surprised me. Most of my doctors don't mask or only wear a surgical. Even my rheumatologists who work with immunosuppressed populations suffering from autoimmune diseases don't wear jack poo poo. We talked about long COVID quite a bit. I think she felt like I'd be receptive to it since I was also in an N95 + she asked me about my current medical issues and if they'd manifested after I had COVID. She mentioned she was incredibly concerned about the long-term effects of letting COVID run rampant and that a worrying number of people in her practice have been popping up with ongoing health problems after infection, specifically connective tissue issues. It was a refreshing experience to see someone in medicine give a poo poo about it. She took a full hour with me and was curious about my medical history and pain management practices. I usually get shoved out the door super quick. Feels like I found a bit of a gem.

Baddog
May 12, 2001

Pulvis Sumus posted:

Feels like I found a bit of a gem.

Yah you did!

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Connective tissues issues? Like joints? Because our workplace has quite several folks falling over on the bus lately. Like one of them said that for some reason their ankle or knee just out of nowhere just stopped working and they just couldn't even stand on it anymore

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Pulvis Sumus posted:

Feels like I found a bit of a gem.

marry her

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
im trying to find a new pcp now and I'm very jealous

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

NeonPunk posted:

Connective tissues issues? Like joints? Because our workplace has quite several folks falling over on the bus lately. Like one of them said that for some reason their ankle or knee just out of nowhere just stopped working and they just couldn't even stand on it anymore
just did a quick search, and there's an n=5 case study on Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome developing as a result of COVID

Long COVID symptoms lead to hEDS diagnosis in small study posted:

SARS-CoV-2 infection can lead to long COVID

Infection by SARS-CoV-2 can lead to prolonged and diverse symptoms, colloquially known as “long COVID.” Besides the lungs being affected, other symptoms include fatigue, cognitive disturbances, and both neurogenic and musculoskeletal pain. Patients may also experience postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, which causes dizziness and a fast heart rate when getting up from lying down.

Notably, these symptoms are also characteristic of hEDS and HSD. Both these conditions involve hypermobile joints and stretchy skin, with HSD occurring in patients for whom EDS has been excluded as a diagnosis.

Here, a group of clinicians at Tulane University School of Medicine, in New Orleans, described the outcomes of five women, ages 33 to 51, who did not have a history of a hypermobility disorder.

Up to 15 months after getting COVID-19, all patients developed persistent and debilitating fatigue, accompanied by cognitive dysfunction, joint pain, and dysautonomia, which is a group of disorders caused by abnormalities in the autonomic nervous system that governs involuntary body functions like heartbeat and breathing.

“This constellation of symptoms aligned with those familiarly seen in patients at our institution’s Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome/Hypermobility Spectrum Disorder Clinic, prompting referrals,” the researchers wrote.

All 5 women fulfilled criteria for hypermobility spectrum disorder

After physical tests and evaluation of generalized joint hypermobility, all patients fulfilled criteria for HSD. The five women had genetic variants in an enzyme (methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase) linked to the development of hEDS and HSD. Taking into account clinical and lab findings, four women were diagnosed with hEDS and one with HSD.


A mast cell disorder, a condition marked by an excess of immune mast cells, was suspected or confirmed in four of the five women. These patients were advised to supplement with vitamin B9 (also known as folate) and a plant-based antioxidant called quercetin.

The onset of hEDS could be due to the activation of immune responses within connective tissues triggered by the SARS-CoV-2 infection, according to the clinicians.

Overall, “the presence of SARS-CoV-2 itself may trigger a misdirected host immune response to traumatized connective tissue in such patients with preexisting joint hypermobility and may yet represent another possible mechanism for new-onset or worsening connective tissue symptoms within the post-acute infection period,” the scientists concluded.
admittedly this is too small to draw any conclusions from, but interesting and worth keeping an eye on

CGI Stardust has issued a correction as of 21:56 on Jan 31, 2024

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Pulvis Sumus
Jul 27, 2011

NeonPunk posted:

Connective tissues issues? Like joints? Because our workplace has quite several folks falling over on the bus lately. Like one of them said that for some reason their ankle or knee just out of nowhere just stopped working and they just couldn't even stand on it anymore

Yeah, specifically stuff like reactive inflammatory arthritis (that you need medication which costs around 14k a pop to treat lmao, though insurance and drug manufacturer programs will offset most of that. Still expensive either way. Yay American health care). COVID seems to have a penchant for activating dormant autoimmune diseases. Trauma/stress/viral illnesses/etc. apparently tend to kick-start them. I'm currently being treated for psoriatic arthritis due to ongoing pain in multiple joints + chronic tendonitis, but I'm getting differing diagnoses from each doctor I visit, so who knows at this point? She speculated it was long COVID-related since I don't fit neatly into the textbook diagnostic criteria, but we ruled that out since my symptoms began before being infected.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10311574/

CGI Stardust posted:

just did a quick search, and there's an n=5 case study on Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome developing as a result of COVID

admittedly this is too small to draw any conclusions from, but interesting and worth keeping an eye on

It's interesting you bring this up - I was recently diagnosed with HSD by the last rheumatologist I saw (only a 4 on the Beighton scale though, so no hEDS) and have a bunch of related symptoms that never before manifested in my life until about 6 months after I got COVID. Mainly joint cracking, tendon snapping, etc. all over my body in addition to muscle tightness that may be inducing joint pain in my knees as a result of attempting to stabilize my loose patellas (these were not part of my initial symptoms). It could be purely coincidental and it's just the natural aging process + the genetic predisposition finally causing it to create problems in my body, or it's just the further development of some inflammatory arthritis. I've also read people who are hypermobile are more at risk for developing long COVID for some reason.

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