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haveblue posted:Personally, if I were head of the arbitration company, I would go hog wild committing crimes with impunity What you haven't considered is that the free market would eventually remove such a corrupt arbitration company and replace it with an uncorrupt one. Consumers will mostly move to security companies that vow to pick CEOs that promise to only work with uncorrupt arbitration companies, giving those uncorrupt ones a competitive edge.
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PT6A posted:Let's hear this guy out. It doesn't sound like a terrible system, and once you have a reasonable monopoly on violence in an area, you could maybe get into some things that go nicely with that sort of power. Maybe some gambling, distribution of controlled substances... and, hell, if you already have the protection, might as well do some light pimping on the side. It was already a protection racket.
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Every an-cap system breaks down immediately when you get to statements like “the parties involved will do X because it’s easier/cheaper/logical.” People do counterproductive poo poo all day every day out of spite, cruelty, and (most often) stupidity. It’s far more of a given than the actions of some imagined rational actor
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Scratch Monkey posted:Every an-cap system breaks down immediately when you get to statements like “the parties involved will do X because it’s easier/cheaper/logical.” People do counterproductive poo poo all day every day out of spite, cruelty, and (most often) stupidity. It’s far more of a given than the actions of some imagined rational actor Yes but these sporadic individual choices don't matter in the grand scheme of things, rather one should focus on the demonstrated tendencies of populations and markets to be correct and rational especially when it comes to sustainable long term benefits vs. destructive immediate gains and oh lord I've gone crosseyed.
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Nebrilos posted:What incentive does Ring have to obey the arbitrator's ruling? 
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All you anti ancaps are forgetting that all of these issues would be simply solved by cartels
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if there's one geopolitical lesson to take away from the 20th century it's that a vast tangle of interlocking defense agreements will always prevent a vast war spanning the world also that companies in an industry will never consolidate until they have regional monopolies
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zoux posted:All you anti ancaps are forgetting that all of these issues would be simply solved by cartels Correct, and the thousands of smaller companies would never merge together into larger and less numerous conglomerates until the market becomes unable to constrain their behavior because
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if there's one geopolitical lesson to take away from the 20th century it's that a vast tangle of interlocking defense agreements will always prevent a vast war spanning the world Ah a fellow Von Misean
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if there's one geopolitical lesson to take away from the 20th century it's that a vast tangle of interlocking defense agreements will always prevent a vast war spanning the world Is this really the lesson though? I know "great men of history" is bunk, and Bush's "axis of evil" speech was dumb as hell, but we have had rogue actors like Hitler, who very clearly stated their policy goals in the 20's were explicitly for a colonialist war. And there were all sorts of interlocking agreements around Hitler's Germany, but he chose to invade poor Poland anyway. Clearly the EU is a successful political project for peace, but even today we have morons like Trump who either don't understand geopolitics or don't care, or both, and scream about removing NATO protection from countries that are "too cheap" to meet the 2% budget requirement. I don't think peace can be taken for granted, even though we managed not to set the northern hemisphere on fire during the Cold War (and the proxy wars were conveniently exported into the third world anyway) Or this post is a joke and I didn't get it 
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Rappaport posted:Or this post is a joke and I didn't get it It was sarcasm. WW1 happened in spite of a vast tangle of interlocking defense agreements.
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Rappaport posted:Or this post is a joke and I didn't get it lmao
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Rappaport posted:Or this post is a joke and I didn't get it It's this one, OP.
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Rappaport posted:Or this post is a joke and I didn't get it ...Someone earned themselves a titty twister.
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haveblue posted:Correct, and the thousands of smaller companies would never merge together into larger and less numerous conglomerates until the market becomes unable to constrain their behavior because You seem to be laboring under the belief that a free market can fail. I have simply assumed they cannot 
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:You seem to be laboring under the belief that a free market can fail. I have simply assumed they cannot It obviously cannot fail. It can only be failed, by definition.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Every an-cap system breaks down immediately when you get to statements like “the parties involved will do X because it’s easier/cheaper/logical.” People do counterproductive poo poo all day every day out of spite, cruelty, and (most often) stupidity. It’s far more of a given than the actions of some imagined rational actor Relatedly, you'd run into bigotry/the socially-constructed nature of crime. What happens when Chud McMAGA burns Free Waterfall Jr's pride flag, and True Patriot DRO refuses to negotiate because they think making queer people unwelcome is a public service, not a crime?
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darthbob88 posted:Relatedly, you'd run into bigotry/the socially-constructed nature of crime. What happens when Chud McMAGA burns Free Waterfall Jr's pride flag, and True Patriot DRO refuses to negotiate because they think making queer people unwelcome is a public service, not a crime? They just wouldn't, OK. The free market will make them behave. It wouldn't happen(TM)
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At first glance it looked like she has a ehm... firm grip on him through his pants there lmao
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Taeke posted:At first glance it looked like she has a ehm... firm grip on him through his pants there lmao 
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zoux posted:That's schrecklich as hell I’m pretty sure that Young Capitalists account is just Wizard Master. Also  at the internet being unified in the execution of Ian Miles Cheong
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darthbob88 posted:Relatedly, you'd run into bigotry/the socially-constructed nature of crime. What happens when Chud McMAGA burns Free Waterfall Jr's pride flag, and True Patriot DRO refuses to negotiate because they think making queer people unwelcome is a public service, not a crime? Remember how in Jim Crow era southern US all those restaurants and hotels would not serve black people? As we all know, this lead to a few enterprising establishments seeing an unmet need in the market. They promptly began catering to all consumers regardless of race which is how the free market ended racism in the US
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cat botherer posted:dude's packin'. That's a ways down the leg. Yeah im pretty sure that is intentional lol
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I’m pretty sure that Young Capitalists account is just Wizard Master.
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 Food for thought next time you see some insane CNBC article: these people are morons who don't know what they're talking about I'm not going to say that I could never be scammed but I can loving guarantee I wouldn't get scammed into handing 50 grand in cash money to a stranger. Source, if you want it
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zoux posted:I'm not going to say that I could never be scammed but I can loving guarantee I wouldn't get scammed into handing 50 grand in cash money to a stranger. We like to think that, but it was a high-effort scam involving multiple con artists supporting each other's stories that unfolded over several hours. We all have finite capacity for defying this sort of thing, the scammers just have to find it The weirdest part to me was that the bank handed over 50 grand in cash instantly without any roadblocks, that's got to be well above the level where reporting requirements kick in
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haveblue posted:We like to think that, but it was a high-effort scam involving multiple con artists supporting each other's stories that unfolded over several hours. We all have finite capacity for defying this sort of thing, the scammers just have to find it The CIA would not be investigating domestic bank fraud. Your bank is who calls you about fraud, not vendors. She has been a financial columnist for seven years and did not know these things.
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cat botherer posted:he was stoned to death by concrete milkshakes Wrong fascist journalist, I believe.
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I get that we're all gullible and can fall for something, but why would the CIA call you and be on the verge of arresting you if you so much as talk to your lawyer, but also is issuing you a new SSN to catch the real criminals who are doing fraud with your actual SSN? This seems like a pretty easy scam to avoid by just being skeptical if someone tells you your life is becoming a spy movie or something.
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burnishedfume posted:I get that we're all gullible and can fall for something, but why would the CIA call you and be on the verge of arresting you if you so much as talk to your lawyer, but also is issuing you a new SSN to catch the real criminals who are doing fraud with your actual SSN? This seems like a pretty easy scam to avoid by just being skeptical if someone tells you your life is becoming a spy movie or something. Yeah, like we've had people who are fleeced at work but gently caress me this lady seems absolutely clueless. From taking a message from "Amazon" alone would be enough to ring alarm bells to me. Like, I get it and I am glad people will come forward and talk about it, but I kind of think this is the sort of profound thing where if you stop and think about it for more than 5 seconds you'd realise some of it is dumb as hell.
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It'd be one thing if she were an 85 year old grandma and not a paid financial advice columnist. This is literally the wallet inspector.
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I can kind of sort of understand how she got most of the way into the scam. It's dumb, but I can see the quasi reasonable path. But why the gently caress would you not abort everything and laugh at how they almost got you when they tell you it's CIA time? Edit: Though I guess it does all sound dumb and implausible enough to be a CIA plan to assassinate Castro. Gyges fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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zoux posted:It'd be one thing if she were an 85 year old grandma and not a paid financial advice columnist. This is literally the wallet inspector.
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zoux posted:
Well, me neither because that would be stupid. Also impossible because I'll never have that much cash in my hands
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BiggerBoat posted:Also impossible because I'll never have that much cash in my hands My friend, have you considered being the scammer instead of the scammee 
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https://twitter.com/SteakFrankhouse/status/1758366193616896023
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Bro heard "Be there or be square" and decided to embrace it.
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