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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

You are not allowed to just enjoy things anymore, all things must be monetized. The major sports leagues did not locate a franchise in Vegas for decades because they didn't want to present the appearance of impropriety, and it took less than a decade to knock all that poo poo down.


It’s loving crazymaking.

For years, there were books sneering at sports in Asia, saying that cricket and football could never have the quality of play found on the west (white Dominions) because sports gambling corrupted the sports. Players, referees and leagues were all dismissed as crooked and any results or impressive play was attributed to fixing and “East Asian cultural attitudes towards gambling”.

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Harik posted:

My favorite discovery about sports betting is if you win they can just say "whoops, those odds were obviously an error" and not pay out in most states, lol.

weirdly they never seem to do that when people lose.

this is why it was better to have this kind of thing gatekept by the Mob, then if somebody starts loving up the Numbers game somebody from a different crew or an errant pissed off degenerate solves the problem. There's no recourse now that it's legal!

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN KASPERI KAPANEN

triple sulk posted:

i will die on that hill forever. absolutely horrific ruling that has profound societal effects, especially given that the nfl/nba/mlb/nhl are the top leagues globally for their respective sports

the nba one is probably the worst given it's the second most popular sport on earth behind soccer

Cricket erasure

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://x.com/kron4news/status/1770459124985188486?s=20

hell yeah

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:

Seems reasonable if you're going to die on time at 65

Life expectancy changes occur at the beginning for the most part, not the end. When the life expectancy was 40 years, you were likely to hit your 50s or 60s just fine as long as you got through childhood.

"People two hundred years ago only lived to 40" is a weird thing that's just taken as gospel by a lot of people.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


skooma512 posted:

it’s going to come out that the games are fixed and there will be some noises for a couple weeks and everyone will just carryon as normal by next season

The NFL admitted as such back in the 1980s when Al Davis sued them

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


lol

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

NFL commissioner got pissed off when it was implied the NFL was encouraging Taylor Swift bullshit, nevermind NFL owned and operated cameras constantly panned to her.

OH MY BAD
Feb 5, 2024

by Pragmatica
i unfortunately view t swift as an effigy for this whole sick mess we're in so i find it appropriate to show her at football games

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Taylor Swift is just like Helen of Troy except her face launched a thousand frothy calls to sports radio, and I love her for that

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It’s insane that we’re combining “no such thing as society” with a libertine perspective on vice, without a social safety net.

hey the 1800 number for gambling addiction is in a larger font on the ads. that’s all we can do.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Taylor Swift is one of the most powerful entities on Earth at the moment

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop
Since it deserves more than just a shitpost:

https://sports.yahoo.com/hit-three-monster-bets-then-153339808.html

quote:

There’s a common marketing slogan in sports betting: “Sweat the game, not the payout.” In other words, when dealing with legitimate sportsbooks and not some shady neighborhood bookie, gamblers shouldn’t have to worry about getting stiffed.

Yet bettors say gaming operators aren’t always living up to that promise, and some industry officials agree. Bookmakers sometimes use a clause in their fine print as an “insurance plan,” as one top regulator put it, to get out of paying big winners - and multiple industry observers say the practice is increasing.

That caveat nearly cost Christopher Kozak $127,420 recently, after Hard Rock Bet voided three successful long-shot hockey wagers - involving bets on a host of NHL players being held scoreless in the same game - that he placed in Tennessee. The sportsbook, operated by the Seminole Tribe, notified him several days after the games in question that his payouts were an “obvious error,” and therefore he wasn’t owed anything beyond a refund.

it's such a good loving scam I want to form a LLC and take bets and tell all the winners "sorry it was an obvious error" just to see how far I can get.

It's a hilariously transparent scam too: you post either a sure win or a crazy good odds, take everyone's money and then refuse to pay. If they lose of course it wasn't an "obvious mistake" and you keep it.

quote:

Some protection is only fair, Beyers said: If a customer tries to cash in on a blatant fat finger, “you’re basically stealing money from someone who made a mistake.”
lol, lmao.

quote:

The house has a bigger edge on parlays, in some cases collecting roughly $20 for every $100 wagered, compared with about $5 for every $100 in conventional “straight” bets. But generating accurate, real-time odds for thousands of hypothetical combinations every second of every day is “essentially impossible,”

:qq: we want to make these insanely profitable parlays as fast as possible and we don't want to ever lose, don't make us pay out when it blows up in our face! (E: to be clear he's arguing against them being able to back out of bets when they realize they hosed up in their rush)

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


boomers stay winning

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It’s loving crazymaking.

For years, there were books sneering at sports in Asia, saying that cricket and football could never have the quality of play found on the west (white Dominions) because sports gambling corrupted the sports. Players, referees and leagues were all dismissed as crooked and any results or impressive play was attributed to fixing and “East Asian cultural attitudes towards gambling”.

That's a strange attitude given how normalized gambling is in British culture.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

The Oldest Man posted:

boomers stay winning

I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find out that the generation that looted the planet and left a boiling husk for their descendants are the happiest in the country.

Mandel Brotset
Jan 1, 2024

mycomancy posted:

I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find out that the generation that looted the planet and left a boiling husk for their descendants are the happiest in the country.

generations aren’t real gently caress head you need a class analysis

lol yes they are they own all the houses in Pittsburgh

gently caress you willa is right

jfc thread needs an ik

etc etc

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

make willa ik

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I don't need to discuss generations, All must pay

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Mandel Brotset posted:

generations aren’t real gently caress head you need a class analysis

lol yes they are they own all the houses in Pittsburgh

gently caress you willa is right

jfc thread needs an ik

etc etc

"wrong"

-Donald J Trump

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Mandel Brotset posted:

generations aren’t real gently caress head you need a class analysis

lol yes they are they own all the houses in Pittsburgh

gently caress you willa is right

jfc thread needs an ik

etc etc

gently caress you, boomers suck, hth

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Mandel Brotset posted:

generations aren’t real gently caress head you need a class analysis

lol yes they are they own all the houses in Pittsburgh

gently caress you willa is right

jfc thread needs an ik

etc etc

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Zodium posted:

make willa ik

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Mandel Brotset posted:

jfc thread needs an ik

fluffdaddy:

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I thought this thread did have an IK.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




I am finally glad my parents watched the most boring sports on the planet when I was a child (or at least the most boring sports to my young self). Tennis and Golf. Tennis I had no clue about the finer points, so it was all one or two hits and then done. And golf was just many hours of quiet whispering over green fields.

I have no real desire to watch sports, so I don’t feel any great loss of avoiding sports now that it has degenerated into straight up horse racing with people.

I still find it hilarious when I read you can bet on professional wrestling. Like how is that not able to be fixed from both sides of the equation?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Orvin posted:

I still find it hilarious when I read you can bet on professional wrestling. Like how is that not able to be fixed from both sides of the equation?

That's the cool thing about making money off a compulsive disorder, you know your captive audience will keep paying no matter how obvious the fix is.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Sports are cool

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

That's the cool thing about making money off a compulsive disorder, you know your captive audience will keep paying no matter how obvious the fix is.

And what happens when the “script” for Monday Night Raw, or whatever the hell it is gets leaked? Or just insider traded? Like can some PA make bank by always knowing which thing to bet on, or is this a case of the App always denying all payouts related to wrestling. Because to win means you must have insider knowledge.

Or never having touched the ap (and way over thinking things), is it nothing but dumb prop bets that are not truly scripted. Over/ under for number of punches, slams, etc?

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

net work error posted:

Sports are cool

i enjoy watching them. sometimes. other times? hoo boy...

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but I came across this Reddit thread of posters whose parents lied to them about having money for college and it's pretty bleak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/comments/1bikhey/did_anyone_elses_boomer_parents_say_throughout/?sort=new

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Beached Whale posted:

We're going to leave so many people with crippling gambling addictions once this is all said and done. Half the screen is going to be stupid prop bets with insane odds that trigger the 10% of people predisposed to compulsive betting to throw money away into the skinner box until they're out homeless on the streets. I'm sure they've got services on the backend analyzing which bets are the most profitable and presenting them to users so they continue to lose money. I know other people in this thread have talked about legalizzed gambling turning them off of sports and I have to agree that it's getting beyond ridiculous at this point, just sheer naked capitalism exploiting peoples addictions in such a gross way.

https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1770196825036710010

Looks like I'll be on pirate streams forever then

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

In Training posted:

I thought this thread did have an IK.

Never heard of him

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Reminder all the guys from ~2006 who were researching new ways to make WoW more addictive? Those guys work for the gambling apps now.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

In Training posted:

I thought this thread did have an IK.

It does, I'm not sure what time zone hes in though

Oh nevermind

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
I thought they hired gambling machine people to make them addictive instead of normal game devs discovering gambling mechanics?

Vox Nihili posted:

It does, I'm not sure what time zone hes in though

Oh nevermind

PDT but will be EDT a month.


Though, how much leeway should I be giving people exactly? Does the thread want me to start probing as soon as people say boomer?

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Eric Cantonese posted:

I'm not sure if this is the right thread, but I came across this Reddit thread of posters whose parents lied to them about having money for college and it's pretty bleak.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/comments/1bikhey/did_anyone_elses_boomer_parents_say_throughout/?sort=new

theres a weird current in there where people are resentful towards their parents not saving for college but never claiming to either. its bad if your parents lie about it, obviously, but some times you're just poor.

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites
Nah all they had to do was find a quiet place to chill on their phone, instead they got caught doing something too flagrant and there will be broader crackdowns on "idle time", ruining a good thing for everyone. A tale as old as time.

My last job had some really cushy off the books benefits but a couple people just kept taking things way too far and eventually corporate caught on and we lost that poo poo along with a slew of other things. I got out at the right time cause basically everything that made that job workable for me has continued to get dissolved now that the eye of sauron is gazing at the branch.

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

post hole digger posted:

theres a weird current in there where people are resentful towards their parents not saving for college but never claiming to either. its bad if your parents lie about it, obviously, but some times you're just poor.

Yeah. I see some of that, but sadly there's way less "whiny babies" in that discussion than I'd like and way more "kids who got pretty screwed." A decent number of the posters who know their parents were poor are actually defending their parents about that.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

I have sacrificed one poster as a symbolic measure to end the boom-Xer versus mil-zoomer generational debate, I think we're set unless people still can't help themselves

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