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Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
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I just can’t imagine blowing a grand on a chair without seeing it in person and sitting down on it before I bought it. There is still a case to be made for having actual shops.

I mean, I still use the wooden folding chair I’ve had since I was 11, that is now probably more PVA than wood, I can’t imagine paying a grand for a chair full stop.

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Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

Mega Comrade posted:

What was the chair out of curiosity.

Spending a lot of money on your office chair is actually good advice if you spend a lot of time in it. High quality office chairs cost £800+ but usually come with insanely good decade long guarantees and will easily last double that if cared for.

However if you are patient you can often find them second hand or refurbished from outlet stores for £300-400, sometimes even less from marketplaces from people who are selling off the chair work gave them not realising what it is.

It was a Steelcase Please. It had a very strange back. I'd already tried out the Aeron and that was OK but not in my head worth a grand.

I'd been trying to find cheap refurbished ones but the Amazon ordeal put me off wanting to look at more chairs. I got a https://slouchonline.com/office-chairs/ . It doesn't have the 10 year guarantee that fancy chairs do but for under 300 quid it works well enough for me.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Jel Shaker posted:

i’m guessing there’s absolutely no explanation how the civil war started or interrogation on how it might have? just sort of happened and “both sides” are bad?

Bear in mind this film is about a fictional second Civil War*. In it natural allies, California and Texas team-up and appear to steam roll the rest of America.

This was all I could glem from the trailers. It looks like absolute garbage.

*= And no they don't call it Civil War II: Civiler Warer!

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I get the concept that some chairs are nicer than others but I'm struggling to see how a £1000 office chair can (presumably) be 10 times nicer than a £100 office chair. We've had chair technology for millennia, what does the posh chair 'do' that makes it worth £1000?

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

if you have to drop a bag of sand on a herman miller chair there's companies who sell second hand office surplus stuff for way, way less

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
I have bought an office chair for about that price but not online, and did test it. If the chair isn’t ergonomic and designed around your body - dude you overpaid.

Anyway, bound to be a lot of reconditioned chair places as well and that’s worth going to if you can find one locally

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!

Pistol_Pete posted:

I get the concept that some chairs are nicer than others but I'm struggling to see how a £1000 office chair can (presumably) be 10 times nicer than a £100 office chair. We've had chair technology for millennia, what does the posh chair 'do' that makes it worth £1000?

The difference is that a cheap chair might ruin your back and the expensive one might not. So if you have the money (or can convince your work to pay for it) then you'd rather get an expensive chair and not ruin your back.

In my 20s I was fine hanging in front of a computer all day in an IKEA swivel chair but now that'll make me feel rubbish so I got a nice chair from one of the second hand office furniture places for 180 quid or so. The full retail price for these is mostly aimed at corporations that don't really mind paying a bit more I believe.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
My office chair has a similar RRP but I've picked up two of them second hand for under £100 each now so I'm a little doubtful that anyone actually pays full price. They seem like pretty well designed chairs that give you support and flexibility and encourage movement and all that but I'm pretty sure I still find ways to sit in them that are bad for me.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pistol_Pete posted:

I get the concept that some chairs are nicer than others but I'm struggling to see how a £1000 office chair can (presumably) be 10 times nicer than a £100 office chair. We've had chair technology for millennia, what does the posh chair 'do' that makes it worth £1000?

I dropped £700 or so on a brand new Herman Miller Mirra about 12 years ago. My arse has spent an average of 10+ hours a day in that chair since lockdown began and it's still in almost as good shape as when I bought it. The arm rest covers have crinkled a bit and that's about it. It's still comfortable, nothing has broken or frayed. When the cockroaches take over the Earth after the nuclear war they'll probably be sitting on it.

Meanwhile, I believe my comprehensive warranty expires in August. The line itself was obsoleted by the Mirra 2 years ago, but if the chair does break before then, I'll get a free replacement that would probably also last me 12 years. It's like a supermarket Bag For Life that you can sit on.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Jedit posted:

It's like a supermarket Bag For Life that you can sit on.

You could probably commission that, if you wanted.

But yeah, if you have any back issues and have to sit down for work, finding or getting a comfortable chair is essential.
I had to move offices a while back and made sure to drag the chair I'd been using to my new office. I can't really do my job effectively with back pain.

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It looks like it's going for her throat

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Pistol_Pete posted:

I get the concept that some chairs are nicer than others but I'm struggling to see how a £1000 office chair can (presumably) be 10 times nicer than a £100 office chair. We've had chair technology for millennia, what does the posh chair 'do' that makes it worth £1000?

The main thing being designed to last. A Hermon miller will last easily a decade, it's why they are comfortable slapping a 12 year all parts guarantee on it. They are designed to be used for 8 hours a day+ and still be comfortable to sit in.

I went through 3 chairs in 8 years each between £150-£350 a pop before I got my current hermin miller one, sitting on extra cussions because the padding had gone flat, arm adjustments breaking, crap back support etc and I got sick of it. Being a software engineer I spend more time in an office chair than I do my bed, so it makes sense to me my chair should be even more important that it's ergonomic and supportive of my body.


My wife has a £250 IKEA chair. It gets a fraction of the use of mine, is a year younger and is already starting to show it's age.

We have a dedicated office chair thread if anyone wants buying advice
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3383243

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Apr 1, 2024

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Office chairs do matter.
In my last work, we had chairs that were approaching 15 years old, having dozens of people fart into them, and half were already broken in one way or another.
So they decided to get new ones, and offered us to select which ones to get.
They gave us 5 versions to trial, most were good, but one was tight on the arse when sitting, another didn't have much back support, etc.
We all had the vote, and the most selected was one where it had a strong back and wide on the arse. Seeing most of us are comic shop guy stereotypes was perfect for us.
Of course the office took the votes, and bought the cheapest ones which was was the lowest voted one.
We continued to use the fart chairs.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Mega Comrade posted:

My wife has a £250 IKEA chair. It gets a fraction of the use of mine, is a year younger and is already starting to show it's age.

We have a dedicated office chair thread if anyone wants buying advice
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3383243

I got my work to buy me a €200 IKEA chair at the start of the pandemic and I guess I lucked out cause it absolutely rocks. Must just be ergonomically designed for me, and looks and feels as good as Day 1 after 4 years.

Kinda scared to enter that thread

E: nvm I went to the thread and the first thing I saw was a fellow freakishly-tall goon recommending my exact IKEA chair

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Apr 1, 2024

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
IKEA (like all its range) is a crapshoot. Some ranges are excellent, others suck.

If it's the Markus you have, for the price it hits above it's weight and would be my recommendation for someone who wants a new but cheap chair for normal home use, but for me the padding went flat and became uncomfortable within 2 years, my dad now has it with some cushions. As I said though I'm an extreme case, I WFH and am an avid pc gamer and photographer, so I can be in the chair for 10 hours a day easily.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I read that as "pornographer" and was like :same:

Yeah it's the Markus, 4 years going strong, though maybe when I turn 40 I will treat myself to one of the fancy name-brand chairs sat on by urban sophisticates

DreddyMatt
Nov 25, 2002
MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF CURRENT EVENTS IS EXCEEDED ONLY BY MY UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR PISS. FUK U AMERIKKKA!!
If you're sitting in a chair for 40 hours a week or should probably be comfortable.
Ideally you'd have work paying for it, but if not then it's worth taking a look at reyooz, they specialise in used office goods and often have crazy expensive chairs for a couple of hundo

https://www.reyooz.com/shop

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Scientastic posted:

I mean, I still use the wooden folding chair I’ve had since I was 11, that is now probably more PVA than wood, I can’t imagine paying a grand for a chair full stop.

My spine winced at this.

I'm basically a pile of bones sewn together by pain so I buy expensive chairs.

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

My partner uses a mini IKEA Poang that is designed for small children, with her laptop on her knee. She used it every day for 8-9 hours a day from 2020-2022 and even now she uses it probably 20h a week.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

standing desk ftw

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

DreddyMatt posted:

but if not then it's worth taking a look at reyooz, they specialise in used office goods and often have crazy expensive chairs for a couple of hundo

https://www.reyooz.com/shop

Yeah reyooz is great. £650 steelcase for £50.
You have to be patient with these sites though, stock goes as quickly as it comes in, you can be waiting weeks for the chair you want to come in.

My recommendation is to slap your height and weight and preferences (mesh, headrest) into the dedicated thread to get a shortlist, try them out if you can, John Lewis have some on display sometimes. Then regularly check the 2nd hand outlet sites for your choice.

It's more effort and will take longer but you will save a lot but the idea of these chairs is you buy it for life so patience pays off.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Apr 1, 2024

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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I bought a refurb steelcase leap back in 2022 from a website that immediately went out of business. It wasn't particularly refurbed but the fabric's fine and my back doesn't hurt any more. That and a vertical mouse are my top two tips for the permanent desk drone.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


I work on an old machinist chair, it's probably not the most ergonomic but it looks pretty rad

Like this one but less hosed up

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

sebzilla posted:

I work on an old machinist chair, it's probably not the most ergonomic but it looks pretty rad

Like this one but less hosed up



If I see someone swivel towards me in one of those chairs I'd assume I'm taped to a table and about to be horrible murdered.


Changing the topic off looking after your arse.
What's actually going on with this hates speech Scottish law?

Is there actually legitimate concerns about free speech or is it just the usual suspects concerned they might not be able to harass people anymore without consequences?

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Apr 1, 2024

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
The amount of fake car ads on facebook marketplace is absolutely ridiculous. They're all written the same too. - 'Price for quick sale, pet free, no dings dents or marks, perfect condition' etc. Its bonkers how many there are. I guess the scam is to get people to pay by bank transfer or something?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Mega Comrade posted:

If I see someone swivel towards me in one of those chairs I'd assume I'm taped to a table and about to be horrible murdered.


Changing the topic off looking after your arse.
What's actually going on with this hates speech Scottish law?

Is there actually legitimate concerns about free speech or is it just the usual suspects concerned they might not be able to harass people anymore without consequences?

Well I mean you look at the article on the BBC news & the first line is "Scotland's new hate crime law has come into force, with JK Rowling and Elon Musk among its critics." and you kind of have your answer I assume. It's a bit of that & a bit of Unionist rage at the Scottish Parliament having the audacity to do things.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

After going through three ''computer'' chairs i now sit comfortably in a tub chair made of wood & leather... it does not swivel. :)

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
you can go to prison in scotland for 7 years for saying "thanks boomers" on the internet

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
This is my chair:

https://furnitureonline.co.uk/search?type=product&q=FUR-RCH-LN-ALTH-GRY



It doesn't swivel. But I have all the legs in muffin pans to make it easier to move around. (I also have muffin pans under the legs of a heavy trestle table which weighs over 20kg to make moving around easier. Castor cups were a total fail in both cases.)

It can pull out (manually) to make a somewhat more horizontal (but not completely flat!) position. I haven't done that because I kept the footstool from my previous chair which did swivel but then the wooden legs - those sort of 5 pointed star types - started to split and wooden legs to replace couldn't be found.

It's the most comfortable chair I have ever owned especially considering I probably spend about 15 hours a day in it most days & balance my laptop on a tray on my lap!
And I don't even need to put a cushion on it to support my back in the lumbar region!

It cost me £214.98 including delivery just over 2 years ago.

ED: I've never had much luck with those more office type chairs with a spoke of legs as plastic legs often break. Though I've had very good service from one which I got for £10 from a charity shop with metal legs though I can't tip backwards in it anymore.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Apr 1, 2024

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

forkboy84 posted:

Well I mean you look at the article on the BBC news & the first line is "Scotland's new hate crime law has come into force, with JK Rowling and Elon Musk among its critics." and you kind of have your answer I assume. It's a bit of that & a bit of Unionist rage at the Scottish Parliament having the audacity to do things.

Even a racist clock can be right twice a day though. They could not like a flawed law for the wrong reasons.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Picked up a mesh Aeron off eBay September 2014 for a hair under £500, good as the day I bought it ten years later; I reckon I'd have gone through at least two / three cheap padded office chairs in that time.

Vimes' 'Seats' Theory.

edit: for folks with office wheely chairs, a good upgrade is some single wheel rollers, I picked up similar to this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006609144683.html

and they are a much better ride than regular dual castors (note there are different top pin/peg sizes so make sure you check what size your chair takes)

NoneMoreNegative fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Apr 1, 2024

DreddyMatt
Nov 25, 2002
MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF CURRENT EVENTS IS EXCEEDED ONLY BY MY UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR PISS. FUK U AMERIKKKA!!

serious gaylord posted:

The amount of fake car ads on facebook marketplace is absolutely ridiculous. They're all written the same too. - 'Price for quick sale, pet free, no dings dents or marks, perfect condition' etc. Its bonkers how many there are. I guess the scam is to get people to pay by bank transfer or something?

I think it's a scam where you pay a deposit/holding fee to take it off the market before you pay the rest when you pick it up, but obviously once pay the fee the account disappears and so does your money

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

DreddyMatt posted:

I think it's a scam where you pay a deposit/holding fee to take it off the market before you pay the rest when you pick it up, but obviously once pay the fee the account disappears and so does your money

Also the accounts selling them are all clearly hacked too.

I dont think a little old lady drives a mint condition M3 but power to her if she does.

Skulker
Jan 27, 2021

Duuuuuude!
Scotland hate law's a load of shite, it's so vague that it should be frightening but the police are pretty open about having 0 intent to enforce it ever. gently caress sake, round here they can't even investigate murders, let alone Internet slapfights.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

serious gaylord posted:

Also the accounts selling them are all clearly hacked too.

I dont think a little old lady drives a mint condition M3 but power to her if she does.

Maybe not a little old lady, but there's a little old man (well not so little really - mid 80s in age) in my block of flats who has one (or one that looks just like it anyway me not being a connoisseur of cars).

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

DreddyMatt posted:

I think it's a scam where you pay a deposit/holding fee to take it off the market before you pay the rest when you pick it up, but obviously once pay the fee the account disappears and so does your money

The same scam is very common with horse sales too.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I have a mostly disintegrated armchair that I just keep stuffing duvets and cushions into to restore sittability. TBH I can't get away with office chairs because I can't sit like a normal person anyway.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
my posture is bad and made worse by the fact i unconsciously keep finding myself sitting my swivelly ikea chair at a right angle

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Sad Panda posted:

Amazon
£1100 for a chair
Thr chair couldn't be disassembled without a specialist tool
£950 delivery fees

Yeah others have replied to this already, but I don't understand why you would buy an expensive and somewhat complicated item like this from the shittiest company in the universe

There's also a thread on these very forums about which chairs are good, if you want to research it first! (They'll tell you to go directly to Herman Miller and just pay them and get an actual warranty and actual customer service. The price is probably the same, but HM are not total 100% poo poo as a company)

Edit to add:

Oh one thing about Amazon: you might want to ask them to give you the delivery fee refund as store credit instead. I mean if you're planning to buy more stuff from Amazon. Friend of mine managed to get their "money" "back" finally that way - Amazon just did the same ghosting bullshit re actual money

jaete fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Apr 1, 2024

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The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

OwlFancier posted:

I have a mostly disintegrated armchair that I just keep stuffing duvets and cushions into to restore sittability. TBH I can't get away with office chairs because I can't sit like a normal person anyway.

Lol this is the most owlish post. I always just picture you being this hagrid-esque figure trudging around covered in blankets and animal skins, and the fact you sit on furniture stuffed with duvets and cushions just adds to the picture.

I say this with love btw, you are my favourite poster.

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