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seems like a mild bird flu that cant jump to humans and isnt airborne. im going to wash all my milk cartons to be safe
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:24 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 18:31 |
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The cure can’t be worse than the disease
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:25 |
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sanitizing the milking machine leads to immunity debt, fools
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:27 |
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Steve Yun posted:https://x.com/mtshastawriter/status/1776628243690651683?s=46 Any time they say anything now I just assume it's total horseshit waiting for an observer to point out the obvious lie
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:37 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Found this while digging through some old photos. 5/1/2020 "There are weeks where nothing happens. Then there are days where years of lockdowns happened."
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:39 |
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Animal-Mother posted:"There are weeks where nothing happens. Then there are days where years of lockdowns happened." Here we started pro sports again before schools (and I think public parks?) were open Just a totally hosed upside down-rear end society
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:42 |
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it still doesn't loving explain one half of the transmission process either! are udders like, just chock fulla those receptors we were discussing earlier? i'll grant that obviously there's a mammary duct but otherwise they're just skin, which... why isn't literally any other part of the cow of concern then?? gently caress youuu
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:42 |
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The Oldest Man posted:Here we started pro sports again before schools (and I think public parks?) were open The high school sports authority in this state, the PIAA, had a completely normal fall 2020 football season
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 16:48 |
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Bird flu discovered in U.S. dairy cows is ‘disturbing’ https://www.science.org/content/article/bird-flu-discovered-u-s-dairy-cows-disturbing Q: What have you learned from your study that is looking for infections in farmers and their cattle? A: We’ve been funded now for about 8 months. Initially, we thought we would be able to work with many farms in Texas, because they’re concerned about keeping their animals free from disease. But there’s been a real resistance to collaborating with us. There’s concern that we might find something that would damage their business. Well, now they have something that’s damaging to their business. And we’re standing by ready to assist in a way that would help us identify the transmission pathway. Is a viable virus aerosolized? Is it coming out in the feces? Or is it simply a respiratory pathogen that is moving through direct contact from cattle to cattle? I would think that there’s some indication with this rapid multistate spread that this thing is airborne.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 17:10 |
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that rules, the covid-19 pandemic has paved the way for the acceptance of Homo Economicus as the man of the future
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 17:45 |
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if Number can't stop it NOTHING CAN
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:02 |
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I recently finished reading The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide, and I cannot recommend it enough to this thread. The author is Dr. Steven Thrasher, a journalist and scholar who had been covering the policing and criminalization of HIV for years and years prior to the start of the COVID pandemic. He does a fantastic job explaining how society structures itself to foist the disease burden onto the downtrodden, and the book is a much easier and accessible read than Necropolis or Health Communism. It’s a very personal book. Dr. Thrasher fills it with personal anecdotes, and the stories of the people he’s met, the people he’s reported on, and the people he has been romantically involved with. The stories are riveting and heartbreaking. Each chapter builds upon the last, and the people introduced in Chapter 1 are relevant and talked about throughout the entire book. I’m really impressed with how the book is able to cover so many angles of disease and capitalism without feeling like it’s jumping all over the place. This section from Chapter 1 had me snapping to attention because I hadn't made this connection yet: quote:The week Mike Brown was killed, I had just started a new job as a columnist for the British newspaper the Guardian. I wasn't supposed to travel or do much on-the-ground reporting for this job, particularly as I was about to start a full-time, funded PhD job a month later. But an editor heard I had gotten to know the St. Louis region while covering Michael Johnson and told me to get on a plane to cover the uprising. Here’s an excerpt from chapter 7, “Cages: The Liberal Carceral State”, that shows just how perfectly this book belongs in CSPAM: quote:One day in August 2020, I logged into the New York Times’s coronavirus tracker, which, among other factors, displayed how many COVID-19 cases could be traced to institutions. Besides a pork-processing plant in South Dakota and a chicken plant in Iowa, fifteen of the seventeen institutions on that date with a thousand or more coronavirus cases traced to them were jails or prisons. Six of them were located in California, three in Florida, two each in Ohio and Arkansas, and one in each in Tennessee and Illinois, including Chicago’s Cook County jail. The governors who could have reduced these incarcerated populations with pardons to stop the largest clusters of COVID-19 in the nation were Republicans and Democrats alike. The viral danger had nothing to do with whether a state was “red” or “blue.” And if one were to trace the responsibility for the deadliest institution of them all on that day–San Quentin State Prison in California or about twenty-five hundred people had tested positive for coronavirus and twenty-five had died of it–it would lead to the door of Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom. The book covers a ton of ground, just check out that chapter list: ACT I: BLAME 1. Mandingo: Racism 2. The Inifinte Weight of Zero: Individualized Shame 3. Parasite: Capitalism ACT II: LAW AND ORDER 4. Guilty Until Proven Innocent 5. From Athens to Appalachia: Austerity 6. Borderlands: Borders 7. Cages: The Liberal Carceral State ACT III: SOCIAL DEATH 8. One in Two: Unequal Prophylaxis 9. Disability as Disposability: Ableism 10. Ride-Along: Speciesism ACT IV: RECKONING 11.Release: The Myth of White Immunity 12. Compound Loss: Collective Punishment Epilogue: Why Am I “Me” and You are “You”? I checked it out from my library and was so taken by the writing that I bought my own copy to read whenever. Check it out sometime, fellow goons. fake edit: we should have book recommendations in the OP imo. I think books like Necropolis, Health Communism, and The Viral Underclass are all really good tools for helping people understand the dynamics of disease and capitalism.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:10 |
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John Howard’s “We Want Them Infected” is a good meticulous record of early COVID denialism, as I understand it, haven’t read it yet myself.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:19 |
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Rochallor posted:https://x.com/luckytran/status/1776360226205143547
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:26 |
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U-DO Burger posted:
Where's that picture of a sign that said something like "be safe, Covid is here" in the foreground with the whole forest on fire in the background, somebody has to have it saved
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:31 |
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Lol bird flu and fire this summer
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:40 |
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It's so awesome that every year on this planet is
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:44 |
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Teenage Riot posted:Where's that picture of a sign that said something like "be safe, Covid is here" in the foreground with the whole forest on fire in the background, somebody has to have it saved
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:49 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:that rules, the covid-19 pandemic has paved the way for the acceptance of Homo Economicus as the man of the future Welcome to the
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:49 |
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Thank you
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 18:52 |
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this should really be thread banner/background
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 19:16 |
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Crazypoops posted:It's so awesome that every year on this planet is It is especially this year with the planes falling apart now
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 19:19 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Found this while digging through some old photos. 5/1/2020 Still a lockdown, the server is wearing a mask.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 19:41 |
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come join us lol
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 20:28 |
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 21:02 |
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ColdBlooded posted:Still a lockdown, the server is wearing a mask. Unable to read the facial cues of our server, my child's verbal development will never recover
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 21:31 |
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U-DO Burger posted:I recently finished reading The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide, and I cannot recommend it enough to this thread. The author is Dr. Steven Thrasher, a journalist and scholar who had been covering the policing and criminalization of HIV for years and years prior to the start of the COVID pandemic. He does a fantastic job explaining how society structures itself to foist the disease burden onto the downtrodden, and the book is a much easier and accessible read than Necropolis or Health Communism. I read this a while ago and thought it was worthwhile but didn't like it enough to recommend it to others. It certainly has a lot of good content and effectively argues that criminalizing disease transmission is just another stick with which to beat the underclasses, same as the drug war. I think this point might be controversial even here. I didn't particularly enjoy their writing style and found the author took too long to make points, in part due to the very personal nature of the writing. For this reason I found Necropolis a much more interesting read. "Pandemics: a very short introduction" is IMO also very good in part because it provides a broad and to the point overview of pandemics throughout history. Sometimes people talk about how we used to prioritize public health and that's wrong, public health has always been subservient to economic concerns and ruling class interests. The author points out that public health measures past and present tend to be dominated by technical interventions ie vaccines/antibiotics/killing insects, and the underlying social arrangements that lead to underclasses being most vulnerable to pandemics are rarely/never addressed. Also interesting to read people from over a century ago essentially arguing that cholera is mild and doesn't require any sort of mitigation. edit: definitely agree these books are very helpful towards understanding the COVID pandemic and other perennial public health issues. Haven't read Health Communism but will look into it. Nocturtle has issued a correction as of 22:08 on Apr 6, 2024 |
# ? Apr 6, 2024 22:06 |
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Nocturtle posted:Also interesting to read people from over a century ago essentially arguing that cholera is mild and doesn't require any sort of mitigation.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 22:27 |
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CGI Stardust posted:that quote from a major British newspaper about how "fear of cholera will kill more people than cholera itself" Sent back in time from the year 2029
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U-DO Burger posted:I recently finished reading The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide, and I cannot recommend it enough to this thread. The author is Dr. Steven Thrasher, a journalist and scholar who had been covering the policing and criminalization of HIV for years and years prior to the start of the COVID pandemic. He does a fantastic job explaining how society structures itself to foist the disease burden onto the downtrodden, and the book is a much easier and accessible read than Necropolis or Health Communism. great review, I did check this book out briefly before going with Maladies of Empire, which was also good but less applicable to the thread. in fiction, I think The Metamorphosis is a great thread book.
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 23:22 |
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Paxlovid was nice while it lasted https://x.com/zeynep/status/1775851011489370337?s=46&t=XyUS8LjqSBeKD9e9B1aSGg
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# ? Apr 6, 2024 23:59 |
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“Good for high risk, worthless for everyone else” makes so little conceptual sense to me given the whole mechanism of it
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 00:05 |
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Also knowing that somehow this study will turn into “and that’s more evidence of covid being over” instead of “oh poo poo our best treatment might not work as well as we want?”
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 00:07 |
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Shiroc posted:Also knowing that somehow this study will turn into “and that’s more evidence of covid being over” instead of “oh poo poo our best treatment might not work as well as we want?” Yeah that's what I intended by posting, it'll be used as evidence to take it away Speaking of which, sorry to repost myself but icantfindaname posted:Anyone know how to change your residential and mailing address in test2treat? Last I used it I lived in a different state, the blacked out is the old address, and I see no way to change it, and pressing the submit button I fear will send it to that address
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 00:16 |
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https://twitter.com/BNOFeed/status/1776711232529076703
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 00:27 |
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icantfindaname posted:Paxlovid was nice while it lasted just to be explicit so as not to confuse any readers glancing by: paxlovid is still hyper-effective. you should take all reasonable measures to get it if/when infected
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 01:13 |
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icantfindaname posted:Paxlovid was nice while it lasted Without discussing the merits of this recent Pfizer study, I thought there were in fact a few reasonable studies that suggested Paxlovid lead to a significant reduction in post-infection impact. For example Al-Aly's medical record study using the VA database for example suggested a 0.7 RR for any post-COVID condition including things like stroke, embolisms etc. Of course that wasn't a double-blinded placebo control study, but that doesn't seem to be totally disqualifying. The two studies are of course measuring different things. Personally think the post-COVID infection stroke rate is more relevant than the time until you stop feeling sick, which raises the question why Pfizer didn't bother measuring it in their own study. This reminded me that one of the strongest pieces of evidence that both post-COVID impacts exist and the incidence can be reduced via medical intervention was this placebo controlled study with Metformin. This result seemed kind of wild and unexpected and you'd think it would catalyze some treatment guidelines or even be replicated since it came out. As far as I can tell it has not.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 01:40 |
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Nocturtle posted:Personally think the post-COVID infection stroke rate is more relevant than the time until you stop feeling sick, which raises the question why Pfizer didn't bother measuring it in their own study. Exactly. Christ.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 01:45 |
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my eye is twitching
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 02:21 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 18:31 |
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icantfindaname posted:Paxlovid was nice while it lasted The study is under powered and doesn't have the end points anyone should care about and zeynep is a loving moron
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