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Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

CheetoVonTito posted:

They shot a drat missile aimed deliberately at children, as they played in a playground…then proceeded to shoot and murder a 6 yr old that survived but was in critical condition AFTER they were given permission and promised safe passage.

DTI a million…trillion times

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1780252222279840036?s=46

https://x.com/stanleycohenlaw/status/1780311024807059568?s=46

Israelis lying so they can shoot more people because that's their SOP

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evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Sydin posted:

Israel is a country of fanatical foreign occupiers so of course they love the war. They just don't like that in between fulfilling his bloodlust Bibi is a corrupt crybaby who tries to do poo poo like neuter the judiciary because they took one of his toys away.

Yeah this is it. Also the fact that even though he is giving them as much murder of civilians as they crave the actual WAR is going terribly.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I think it's long past time to invade Israel.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

and they're frustrated, first with Hamas, then Hezbollah, now with Iran. They can't win the fight they're in, they can't take on an enemy that just demonstrated an ability to hit back, and so all of that frustration needs an outlet. In their minds, they're punishing the Palestinians when they do things like this.

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014

Nonsense posted:

I think it's long past time to invade Israel.

at this point all hamas has to do is wait for israel's economy to collapse. the fascist state will eat itself

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

we do not deserve to be forgiven when our time comes

Who is “we” here? I’m sure as hell not a member of the ruling class or the political elite. If you are I encourage you to exercise your power to improve matters!

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

Sydin posted:

There's no hell terrible enough for these vile motherfuckers.

actually, having themselves as neighbors is an appropriate hell. unfortunately they're still free to inflict suffering on other people

Flournival Dixon
Jan 29, 2024
You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

and they're frustrated, first with Hamas, then Hezbollah, now with Iran. They can't win the fight they're in, they can't take on an enemy that just demonstrated an ability to hit back, and so all of that frustration needs an outlet. In their minds, they're punishing the Palestinians when they do things like this.

exactly like the Black SS in Poland.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

we do not deserve to be forgiven when our time comes

Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

k

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

my wealth global

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

I don't think this is how that works, no.

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

are you going to order something or not

Flournival Dixon
Jan 29, 2024
It seems unlikely that anyone's going to feel bad for us when the fascists finally get their poo poo together and start cannibalizing the empire and doing violence to it's citizens in ways that were previously reserved for people abroad, and I think a big part of the reason nobody will feel bad about it is because of how good we had it while they were being brutalized, is what I'm saying.

e: wait this is Burger posting isn't it, sorry lol

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Unlock the Paul soccer reddit

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Weka posted:

Unlock the Paul soccer reddit

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Flournival Dixon posted:

Netanyahu has very little to do with any of this in any meaningful way, basically every opinion poll ever done in Israel shows like 95% of the population thinks Palestinians are subhumans who should be exterminated. Netanyahu's only real purpose is to be the face of the current government, he's not making any decisions that anyone else in power in Israel wouldn't make.

Not that it makes a moral difference, but Netanyahu's got such an exemplary record at playing the game I wonder if he's even genuinely ideologically motivated or if it's pure psychopathy.

But don't make the mistake of discounting him as a pure figurehead seeing as he effectively had Rabin assassinated in '95, which paved the way to the current Israeli political landscape.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

Oh woe is me I'm a horrible person for having been born.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Conspiratiorist posted:

Not that it makes a moral difference, but Netanyahu's got such an exemplary record at playing the game

lol does he?

Orange Devil posted:

Oh woe is me I'm a horrible person for having been born.

What is the strain of lib-leftism when people were clearly raised some flavour of Calvinist and then take that preoccupation with election and original sin into the arena of social, rather than moral, justice?

e: Not that people raised RC are any better,



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Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

Iran is gonna get more EU sanctions after ministers of foreign affairs decided it was a good idea. Still waiting on the ones for Israel after they killed some Iranians :magemage:

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

and they're frustrated, first with Hamas, then Hezbollah, now with Iran. They can't win the fight they're in, they can't take on an enemy that just demonstrated an ability to hit back, and so all of that frustration needs an outlet. In their minds, they're punishing the Palestinians when they do things like this.

At least until the Iraq war became a poo poo show the US doctrine toward Iraqis was schizophrenic justifications to just be kind of dicks (but not openly murderous, those cases were covered up/treated as one offs), in the same sort of way, the whole “shock and awe” theory that we could basically scare everyone into submission but demonstrating overwhelming firepower with the contradictory assumption that we would be treated just like GI’s in Nazi occupied Europe.

Mostly this just legitimated psyops units going around playing ac/dc at night to annoy people or expending absurd amounts of ordinances on Iraqi military targets to show how totally badass we were.

COIN’s whole “people like you when you keep them safe, don’t kill their relatives, and respond rationally to incentives was actually pretty revolutionary.

The IDF still entirely operates in the model that Arabs must be terrified into submission, and that this is easy and possible.

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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

COIN’s whole “people like you when you keep them safe, don’t kill their relatives, and respond rationally to incentives was actually pretty revolutionary.

I'm pretty sure the army of the Pharaoh figured this out during the Old Kingdom. Petraeus was just exceptionally good at PR (because he was banging his hagiographer), and Pentagon politics (because he married the West Point Commandant's daughter as an upperclassman).

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

lol does he?

Motherfucker is not only out of jail but still in power, isn't he? That's 20+ years of zionists unable to find anyone more emblematic of their creed to band around.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

COIN’s whole “people like you when you keep them safe, don’t kill their relatives, and respond rationally to incentives was actually pretty revolutionary.

no it wasnt

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Flournival Dixon posted:

It seems unlikely that anyone's going to feel bad for us when the fascists finally get their poo poo together and start cannibalizing the empire and doing violence to it's citizens in ways that were previously reserved for people abroad, and I think a big part of the reason nobody will feel bad about it is because of how good we had it while they were being brutalized, is what I'm saying.

e: wait this is Burger posting isn't it, sorry lol

Generally the oppressed are more forgiving to the oppressors population.


DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I'm pretty sure the army of the Pharaoh figured this out during the Old Kingdom. Petraeus was just exceptionally good at PR (because he was banging his hagiographer), and Pentagon politics (because he married the West Point Commandant's daughter as an upperclassman).

Oh for sure but we still needed him and some colonels to point it out to America.

The marines had a pilot program units in Vietnam embedding in villages doing actually sensible counter-insurgency but it was never fully scaled up and of course that institutional knowledge was deleted immediately after the war.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009


It's not that he's too busy, Rishi is just such a tiny, tiny man that Bibi didn't notice stepping over him.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i dont think the topic of "should americans be spared or subject to retributive violence under the jdpon" is a very worthwhile topic of discussion, for the i/p thread and also in general

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

What is the strain of lib-leftism when people were clearly raised some flavour of Calvinist and then take that preoccupation with election and original sin into the arena of social, rather than moral, justice?

I'm pretty sure its related to main character syndrome.

Like, how can I make this genocide of the Palestinian people about myself? Oh I know, I'll self-flagellate on the internet!

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

OctaMurk posted:

no it wasnt

For American military it absolutely was lol

Everyone needs to read imperial life in the emerald city to understand just how moronic and Fukuyama pilled American military theorists and leaders were at the time.

The IDF is at the same level of self-deluded but also even more murdeous.

If anyone remembers the “what if we taught Palestinians to code” guy in the DnD bit bit but made that policy that was what passed for the cream post war nation building then

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BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

Flournival Dixon
Jan 29, 2024
I mean I'm not really talking moralism or deservingness or anything, I just don't think anyone's gonna feel that bad for us when it comes back around lol

i certainly don't think the panarab socialist movement or the chinese-led marxist world order is going to do anything to us, it'll be our own homegrown reactionaries

i know it's not important either way but nobody likes to be misrepresented is all

Conspiratiorist posted:

But don't make the mistake of discounting him as a pure figurehead seeing as he effectively had Rabin assassinated in '95, which paved the way to the current Israeli political landscape.

I guess that's fair but it's hard for me to imagine a way that Israeli politics turns out that isn't something like this, I dunno how else a settler colonial apartheid state is going to shake out when it's empire declines and fails and loses interest and capability of doing the heavy lifting and oppression work. I once saw a guy say that the Butcher of Baghdad was actually going to be the guy who ended Israeili apartheid and genocide if only he didn't have a stroke or whatever it was that happened to him and I just dunno if that's how it woulda gone.

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Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

U-DO Burger posted:

Death to America, Death to Israel

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen

Flournival Dixon posted:

You still got globally wealthy on the spoils of genocide and colonialism, same as all of us, and you're doing nothing meaningful to resist it, same as all of us.

Deserve it or not, I expect there will be very little forgiveness for any of us.

sir this is cspam

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Harik posted:

people assume from the brooklyn accent that they're americans.

lmao

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

paul_soccer12 posted:

everyone in the idf must die

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Reik
Mar 8, 2004

Weka posted:

Unlock the Paul soccer reddit

Those bastards deleted it

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

ELTON JOHN posted:

at this point all hamas has to do is wait for israel's economy to collapse. the fascist state will eat itself

A whole lot of people are going to die while this happens though, so, you know, not an ideal solution

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