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Twilight is bad, but it's a thousand times better than anything it inspired. Working in a school library for a while really showed me what absolute poo poo a lot of YA fiction is. I like the last one where they chew the demon baby out of her, that part was decently icky.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:19 |
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:this is adorable. Yeah I read a lot of Piers Anthony as kid and it seemed fine. As a 14 year old girl reading about some grown rear end man having a relationship with a 14 year old girl seemed fine. The several stories where a kid is the instigator and likes having a sexual relationship with a grown man didn't raise any red flags. Who wouldn't want a wealthy boyfriend who is a wizard or a space tyrant or whatever? It's only looking back that I think those were really weird books to have in the school library.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:34 |
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As someone who read a lot of garbage fiction when I was younger I can say pretty confidently that Twilight isn't actually bad at all. The poo poo that YA fiction authors get away with in their books is frankly ridiculous and a "mildly abusive/creepy" relationship between teenagers doesn't even blip my radar when it comes to "questionable poo poo that shows up in terrible YA fiction". Especially when you compare it to some of the stuff that pops up in sci-fi and fantasy genres. The only reason anyone gives a poo poo about Twilight is that it was fiction aimed at women that had the audacity to become really popular.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:36 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah I read a lot of Piers Anthony as kid and it seemed fine. As a 14 year old girl reading about some grown rear end man having a relationship with a 14 year old girl seemed fine. The several stories where a kid is the instigator and likes having a sexual relationship with a grown man didn't raise any red flags. Who wouldn't want a wealthy boyfriend who is a wizard or a space tyrant or whatever? Same here, and the weird part is that I recognized the stuff I didn't really like ("panties!") and went "eh" and read it anyways e: for the record, I read every single drat Babysitter's Club book AT LEAST twice, and I have only babysat maybe three times (although I did used to work as a nanny) AND my favorite book from ages 9-11 was Silence of the Lambs and I probably never killed anyone, probably, so let the kids read what they want.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:38 |
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sunken fleet posted:I can say pretty confidently that Twilight isn't actually bad at all. The hunky werewolf, after failing to get between the teenaged lead and her 1000 year old rapist, explicitly diverts his romantic interest to their recently born baby; with full support of the family
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:42 |
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Teen girls are always obsessing over something. The creepy part of Twilight was the way too old obsessive Twilight fans. They were the ones throwing blood at Robert Pattinson or making lurid comments towards Kristen Stewart on twitter and somehow still getting elected president.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:49 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah I read a lot of Piers Anthony as kid and it seemed fine. As a 14 year old girl reading about some grown rear end man having a relationship with a 14 year old girl seemed fine. The several stories where a kid is the instigator and likes having a sexual relationship with a grown man didn't raise any red flags. Who wouldn't want a wealthy boyfriend who is a wizard or a space tyrant or whatever? I grew up on those books too. Recommended a few of them to friends and teachers. Pretty much to a one, if they followed through on my recommendation they handed the book back to me and said "That was really weird, are you sure you should be reading these?" My parents were really permissive in my reading habits, I could read actual porn if I wanted to. It wasn't until close to puberty that I started developing the standard sociosexual reaction of "This is porn, I must hide it so no one knows I am a sexual creature."
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 08:52 |
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There's been more than a few stories about the current YA novel world, and every one of them is some batshit insane extremely online discourse drama. I don't know what it is about that genre, but if you told me it was cursed, I'd believe it.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 10:17 |
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Sulla Faex posted:i thought tarantino had a foot thing because he's ethnically half-foot? nah man he just hates turtles
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 12:32 |
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TheMaskedUgly posted:The hunky werewolf, after failing to get between the teenaged lead and her 1000 year old rapist, explicitly diverts his romantic interest to their recently born baby; with full support of the family meh I could give you a dozen similar examples from a dozen other YA book series that released in the same decade as Twlight that no one in the whole world gives a poo poo about. The only reason you and everyone else has a whole playbook of all the "terrible" things in the Twilight series is to give a weak rear end justification for their irrational hatred of A Popular Thing for Girls. And I don't really want to get dragged into a point by point analysis of the goods and bads of Twilight but to your example the relationship between the werewolf and the day old baby it was actually spelled out explicitly in the text as non-romanatic... because obviously. Of course, I wouldn't call the Twilight series good but when compared to its contemporaries in the same/similar genres it really doesn't rank as bad. The weird fever dreams of some Mormon housewife are not even close to the top 100 list of "weird and bad and hosed up poo poo that happens in YA books".
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 13:57 |
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sunken fleet posted:meh I could give you a dozen similar examples from a dozen other YA book series that released in the same decade as Twlight that no one in the whole world gives a poo poo about. The only reason you and everyone else has a whole playbook of all the "terrible" things in the Twilight series is to give a weak rear end justification for their irrational hatred of A Popular Thing for Girls. People are critical of things that they've heard of, you say???? They were very bad AND very popular. We don't criticize bad things nobody is reading, you're correct.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:05 |
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I'm pretty sure he says he wants to marry the baby, and that its his soul mate, in the exact sense that edward and bella are soul mates (written as 'the perfect example of love'); sure it's 'mormon soul mates' or whatever, but it's still definitely a 'I'll make an honest I'll admit, I don't recall the werewolf saying 'lemme up in them guts' to the baby, but I do believe it was implied in the text Twilight is legitimately bad, and you should be embarrassed to be so insecure over people thinking that. TheMaskedUgly has a new favorite as of 14:11 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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YA fiction is a bad genre conceptually.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:10 |
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The baby is called Renesmee
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:11 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Yeah I read a lot of Piers Anthony as kid and it seemed fine. As a 14 year old girl reading about some grown rear end man having a relationship with a 14 year old girl seemed fine. The several stories where a kid is the instigator and likes having a sexual relationship with a grown man didn't raise any red flags. Who wouldn't want a wealthy boyfriend who is a wizard or a space tyrant or whatever? Lol i read IT at like 12-13 and the teen sewer gangbang honestly didnt throw up a single red flag. I get what king was going for, like enter the sewers as children, exit as young adults, but man there had to be a better way.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:35 |
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I'm sure it's a bad movie but having that be your go-to bad movie example in 2019 suggests an irrational level of Mad at Twilight, is my take.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:38 |
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Sulla Faex posted:i thought tarantino had a foot thing because he's ethnically half-foot?
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:44 |
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theflyingorc posted:People are critical of things that they've heard of, you say???? but whatever, sorry for making GBS threads up the thread with twilightchat here's something from the arm reduction forum in penance EtchaSketch posted:She actually left me back in September over the stress related to the other bad poo poo I used to do. She got sick of me having to sweep my car with a mirror looking for bombs while she waited inside for me to give her the signal that I was satisfied my car was safe to approach. I've pissed off some people over the years. I'd marry the girl in a second if she gave me the option and I'd rather have risked my own safety to die with a smile on my face than live with a frown. It sounds melodramatic but it's loving true, when she left me I lost the reason I hung on to life so hard and she took the dog with her. That dog was my baby. unrelated: does anyone know how to quote out of the archives? For older posts a lot of times the quote button is disabled or it just sends you to a screen that says "Specified thread was not found in the live forums."
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:46 |
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That's a funny forums quote???
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:50 |
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One More Fat Nerd posted:the teen sewer gangbang honestly didnt throw up a single red flag.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 14:53 |
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:making GBS threads in your guacamole turns it brown faster.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:13 |
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CannonFodder posted:You're just jealous you will never have a love as pure and all consuming as Tarantino has for feet. No joke I work in the film industry and we did a spot a couple months ago with a soccer player. The director referred to the close-up shot of the feet as the "Tarantino shot" and not a single person on set was confused about which shot he meant.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:19 |
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Sulla Faex posted:i thought tarantino had a foot thing because he's ethnically half-foot? Hirayuki posted:This would explain a lot about his looks.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:37 |
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Does anyone have the quote collection from a previous GDQ event where it's a glitch-exploiting speedrun of the life of Jesus?
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:20 |
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sunken fleet posted:i mean idk dude do you honestly feel like there is a comparable level of criticism leveled at Twilight compared to other things from similar genres and similar levels of popularity? Because I don't feel like there is. The reason is that HG is fine-ish and Twilight is v. bad
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:29 |
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to derail the Twilight derail, 50 Shades started off as literal Twilight fanfiction, and the only reason it succeeded as a published book is because newspapers whole-cloth published a press release from the publisher's marketing agent claiming "MOMS are reading PORN?!" Like it was some kind of novelty.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:43 |
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haveblue posted:Does anyone have the quote collection from a previous GDQ event where it's a glitch-exploiting speedrun of the life of Jesus? P sure they're itt if you can find the date
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:50 |
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:to derail the Twilight derail, 50 Shades started off as literal Twilight fanfiction, and the only reason it succeeded as a published book is because newspapers whole-cloth published a press release from the publisher's marketing agent claiming "MOMS are reading PORN?!" Like it was some kind of novelty. It was amazing because I used to read romance novels as basically "weekend fluff reading", and no one realized moms had been reading porn for aaaaaages.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:55 |
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AngryRobotsInc posted:It was amazing because I used to read romance novels as basically "weekend fluff reading", and no one realized moms had been reading porn for aaaaaages. hand to god i think comfortable moms rival teenage boys in the amount of smut they can fuckin hoover through. there are used book shops which are entire ecosystems of scoliosis-spined, utterly humid bodice rippers just cycling through various & sundry gated communities before finally being donated to retirement homes, where they are devoured by scavengers.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:58 |
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My mum doesn't read this stuff. She never even had sex, I'm pretty sure.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 16:59 |
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Paladinus posted:My mum doesn't read this stuff. She never even had sex, I'm pretty sure.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 17:17 |
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Oh no! She has!
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 17:23 |
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Ohhhh, she has
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 17:25 |
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 17:50 |
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From an old thread for complaining about teachersDisgusting Coward posted:Writing snotty letters to teachers should only be allowed if it's done in the style of a 1980s pro wrestling promo.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 18:17 |
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haveblue posted:Does anyone have the quote collection from a previous GDQ event where it's a glitch-exploiting speedrun of the life of Jesus? That's weird, I just saved all those quotes to a file the other day before archives eats the post's formatting forever. What timing for you to ask that. loquacius posted:The Garden of Eden zone is just overloaded with exposition cutscenes and drawn-out tutorials, but we don't have time for that, so we're gonna just snatch one of these Knowledge fruits here. They're hard-coded so that our human characters can't touch them until we pass every single tutorial, but there's a loophole if we find one... specific... animal NPC... yep, there's our friend the snake. (CROWD: SNAAAAAAAAKE) Kikas posted:*muffled SpikeVetega in the distance* SNAKE HOIPE Majuju posted:"ooh, ouch, lot's wife with a sub-optimal strat has soft-locked the game now" Kikas posted:"in a regular playthrough you're stuck in this very slow animation for this whole long walk here, lugging this thing around, right? However, we can still spin and the physics get a bit wonky when we spin. There's also this dude he's on a cycle, but if he crosses my path just now... there we go, we offload the cross to Simon of Cyrene" Kikas posted:"right, remember Lazarus? We've met him before and haven't seen him for a while, so here's the ending to his quest. However, since we did the glitch at Kana Wedding, this is gonna be something different. Now see everyone is coming to us with like 'oh Lazarus is dead why did you miss this' and this is supposed to be a funeral scene, but with the glitch we can... just... do this... okay see his tomb is openable with this small clip and see - there's Lazarus, all alive and well. However this messed up the AI and as you can see everyone in the town is now t-posing" Majuju posted:"okay we're coming up on it, let's close the donation incentive, gonna need that word now." Popoi posted:"Thanks to a last minute donation, the winner of the Passover release incentive is: Barabas" Kikas posted:I DONATED FOR LUNK Ursine Catastrophe posted:So I know most of you wouldn't do this on a casual playthrough, but since this is a speedrun we're absolutely just going to choose to shove our daughters out the door instead of the visitors dotfivenine posted:"Alright so typically we'd have to concieve a child the old fashioned way, but to keep this sfw and to save frames, we're gonna clip into Mary and just trigger the pregnant flag" Evil Badman posted:"Eve's naked here because clothing affects your run cycles." Evil Badman posted:"poo poo, well, I missed the jump...so here's a three day unskippable cutscence. We have time for donations." Evil Badman posted:"So you may be asking why we're just punching this NPC endlessly, and in most speedruns, this is a positioning trick. In this run, we're try to get them to turn against God." Ursine Catastrophe posted:Normally we'd have to play through a full courtship and wedding questline, but we actually found out last week that if you get Lot drunk here, you can actually just skip like all of that and shave off months of game time Majuju posted:"now, all these locusts, you can see, they're really lagging things out. luckily we'll be through this section soon. coming up, you can see why we picked 'secondborn' at character creation" Majuju posted:"right, so that's the item duplication glitch, now we have enough loaves and fishes to feed everyone, and we can move on to the next checkpoint" Octatonic posted:"okay, so we've successfully bound isaac, but pay attention to the way we approach the altar. As you can see, the questlog has updated - we've successfully proved our devotion. The game's a bit confused, and you can see that even though we've gone all the way up to through sacrifice, our son is still alive" Kikas posted:"Now that we have exactly two of every animal in the game, we approach the ark a very specific way to cause a small glitch... wait this is frame perfect, gonna take a couple of tries... one more... okay that's it, now we've caused an underflow error and the whole world is underwater" Majuju posted:"so if you're playing casually you have to do, like, twenty separate begats here, takes a while. we've decided to save time, and since this is a TAS, we can manipulate the game code in a very particular way using graven idol placement to just get them all over at once. those of you with small children or weak stomachs may want to look away." SeXReX posted:And on the 7th split god looked down at his time and was pleased for it was good loquacius posted:Ahhhh, dammit, looks like Delilah got us with her scissors. We don't have to eat a death here, but the debuff this applies is one of the only things that can take down the Samson character, and he's no longer overpowered. Luckily there's a backup strat once we hit Jericho. parabolic posted:Now, in a casual playthrough you might miss the rear end jawbone item, as its stats look like garbage at first glance, but it has a massive damage buff against Philistines that will be super useful during the Samson levels. Kikas posted:"So one of the things i can do to make this unskippable segment fun is to look around in my party inventories and look - we haven't found an explanation for this yet so if one of the devs wants to shed some light on this it would be awesome - where did Judas get 30 silver coins?" Queen Combat posted:Now, because we skipped resource gathering earlier, this section where we have to feed this crowd is usually an insta-fail. However, if we take these two loaves of bread and try to put them in the same table slot, it causes a buffer overflow and we end up with infinite loaves. dotfivenine posted:This also causes the next slot over to corrupt the memory, and fill our inventory with the next item in the table, which happens to be Fish! So we're able to complete this quest almost instantly. Nep-Nep posted:"Alright we're coming up on the late part of the run, this bit's an autoscroller so there's nothing I can do to make it faster but check out this crazy glitch, by doing these inputs at just the right moment a large section of the NPC population has spontaneously floated off into the sky. They won't be back." JethroMcB posted:"Now, you're supposed to use 4 nails here, but as you'll remember, because we zipped from the Garden to Golgotha and skipped the first 10 stations, we've only picked up 3. Luckily, the animation means the legs will clip through each other onnnnnnnnnn...that frame." Vapor Moon posted:"Okay so if we unequip the rock on the same frame we shoot the game glitches out and thinks we threw infinite stones at once and we just one shot goliath" Ursine Catastrophe posted:So right here normally we'd have to get on the boat first, then worry about prayer upkeep once the boat sidequest is done, but we actually found a glitch that lets us start the boat sidequest, pray, and then just walk right out to the boat cutscene already in progress, and it has the hilarious side effect of confusing the NPC AI so that they start trying to get into a dialogue with us and-- yep, there he goes, looks like Peter's having some trouble swimming there <crowd laughs and applauds> Ravus posted:"Only 6 days to make the earth? BETTER HOB SLIDE" loquacius posted:We need to get Solomon to level 7, so I'm just gonna grind out a few dispute sidequests. Looks like first up is... baby! Excellent RNG, the baby sidequest can be glitched out to earn double rewards because they forgot to turn off the baby's Destructible flag. JethroMcB posted:"So now that we've clipped through the stone, we're OOB for the rest of the run. Because of the way the map is laid out, you can just push through this wall...and we're suddenly back in Jerusalem, in the Upper Room with our party. They're not going to notice me being here because everything's still on a timer before the next cutscene triggers, but we can go ahead and clip ourselves through Thomas. That allows us to bypass his sidequest later on." Bruceski posted:Normally there's a big fight here against Pharoh's army, it'd be pretty slow but fortunately this time the escort quest works in our favor. We can trick the code into thinking we've skipped that and so everyone starts moving forward. It looks like they're gonna drown but keep an eye at Nahshon in the lead there. He's not flagged right for water interaction so when he gets fully under... BAM the water just gets out of his way and everyone can cross. We call that the Yam Suph Clip. publishko posted:We have to die here intentionally. It normally takes a long time but we want to go fast so we're gonna agro this guard. Yep there he goes, attacking us with his lance.
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Sulla Faex posted:i thought tarantino had a foot thing because he's ethnically half-foot? Nah, he's got flinstone dick. You gotta use your feet to get it to work.
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D-Pad posted:Nah, he's got flinstone dick. You gotta use your feet to get it to work. Oh my god.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 20:30 |
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D-Pad posted:Nah, he's got flinstone dick. You gotta use your feet to get it to work.
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Paladinus posted:YA fiction is a bad genre conceptually.
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