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I had tried to get into this maybe 2-3 times before, but the way it kind of just tosses you right into the middle of the story/seemingly unending amount of characters/it's slow pace, throwing it on before bed basically meant I never got beyond episode 4. But due to a lot of downtime now I'm up to episode 88, and safe to say this has probably ruined all other shows for me. Nothing really comes close to the intelligence of the dialogue, how it can switch between action and then a 10-minute metaphysical conversation, and most importantly the interpersonal relationships between so many characters who are uniquely themselves is amazing. I definitely had not seen a show that made me cry like LOTGH has a few times already in awhile, specifically twice. Once I finish I will most definitely re-watch it again, to savor the good times and easier to pay attention to other things I surely missed this first time around due to the sheer amount of characters and information, even watching it in marathon fashion. knox fucked around with this message at 12:36 on May 28, 2020 |
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The relationship between these two is my favorite probably.  Kingtheninja posted:Thought I'd lost a little wind in my sails for watching this show, then I got into the 90's and hooooly poo poo let's ride this loving train! Lol this is what happened to me, basically after everything 'settles' down a bit and the cult monologue scene. Right back into the fire though obviously. knox fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jul 8, 2020 |
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aparmenideanmonad posted:It's definitely the best thing going on the empire side, but...c'monnn man, you can't say you prefer them to the Yang gang goofing off, passing a bottle of something, and trying not to get glared at too hard by Murai while in staff meetings or on the bridge. I was gonna also mention Poplan & Attenborough but thought they more pure comedy essentially, even though it's some of the best comedy ever. Poplan + Reuenthal up there as favorite characters for sure, but just how important Ruenenthal and Mittermeyer are to the overall direction of story.
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Easily one of my favorite moments of entire show is the night Reuenthal first meets Reinhard and Kircheis in his attempt to save Mittermeyer's life. And Reinhard decides to tell him of his dreams, Kircheis turns to glare at Reuenthal and read his response. Also looool     And does he have one fake eye? Feel like they never fully state that, only saying his mother attempted to harm him as child and then 'never picked him up again.' knox fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Word yeah I knew they had mentioned something like that actually but forgot about it. I'll really have to rewatch the entire thing again knowing all the characters, they just throw so much poo poo at you the first 30 episodes and even beyond that it's too much remember with the sheer amount of characters. Poplan just told Schenkopp he can take Reuenthal since he doesn't want the ladies of the Empire hating him. This loving show. knox fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Phobophilia posted:As pleasant as Mittermeyer is I still haved zero respect for he and Reunthal because they are high ranking aristocrats being waited upon hand and foot by a legion of servants: pick your poo poo up yourself you lazy gits. Yeah but Yang never picked up poo poo either, mans lived in filth till Julian showed up. Reuenthal feels he has earned his position, unlike the aristocrats before him.
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kirtar posted:I could be remembering incorrectly, but I believe that's correct. Of the top of my head there is that implication when he takes one of his eyes out after meeting with the thought police guy that i can't remember the name of. Lang? I vaguely remember the reference to recording visually I'd assume it would record everything possible.
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Real sad hours after just finishing. Tried watching the prequel + plan to slowly rewatching series to catch what I missed/the early contributions of Empire admirals/early plot, making me more sad. I think the last ~30 episodes or so it slows down a lot. The first 50something episodes are my favorite of the plot overall for sure. 
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In my search for images from LOTGH you obviously come across stuff like tumblr/other posts/etc and the relationship of Reinhard & Kircheis is always the one brought up but never Kircheis & Annerose, which I mean clearly he was in love with her and Reinhard knew that as well. Maybe Reinhard is gay and loved Kircheis beyond their friendship, but I always saw Kircheis as just being devoted to Reinhard since childhood and his true love Annerose telling him to take care of her brother + sheer ambition of Reinhard that has even the best admirals awestruck made Kircheis believe they could accomplish the incredibly lofty dreams he had. I never saw the OVA's prior to Conquest, so I don't know if any type of romance happens between them but I wouldn't think they would have something in OVA and not anime itself. It's an extremely unique kind of uh 'love-triangle.'
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Didn't realize how many episodes were in the other two "prequel" OVA's. It sounded like a few episodes were too but some the ones that were like the regular show, were very good. Should probably get around to checking that out.
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I don't think I could watch all of Neue These after having watched all of the original. Maybe the battles will be interesting enough to warrant checking it out in future when it's almost finished? I don't know I hate how the characters look in this digital anime, it's like the original can get across their personality to you to individualize everyone, whereas with digital everyone blends together fully. I guess a different type of anime with more action I would not mind as much, but the slow pace & sheer amount of characters highlighted the exact reasons I hate new animation.
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DamnGlitch posted:They had the first logh book on audible for 5 bucks so I picked it up. The prologue is my favorite episode (the history doc Julian watches on the way to phezzan, explaining the fall of the galactic federation and the rise of the the goldenbaum dynasty). The narrator is an old, history lesson rear end man. I love it so much. Yeah definitely a top episode, doesn't Poplan ask him if he's watching porn mid-episode or something and they just keep watching history channel.
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Been watching some of the Gaiden episodes last couple days. Gaiden1 the first one I saw with Reinhard & Kircheis' first assignment, was as good as anything in the series. Though this murder investigation one is a bit slower. But it's awesome to see their beginnings in the military and how it's been them vs the universe from the beginning. I needed some Kircheis positivity in these dark days.
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I need a sequel where Felix Mittermeyer brings peace for all times; his father Reuenthal's ability, Reinhard's child for a best friend, and Mittermeyer& his wife (the most innocent person in the entire show) raising him with their morals. He's too powerful.
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I started watching the OVAs because I'm still feeling how previous poster does about the main series, after finally watching it all last year. Definitely one of if not the best piece of entertainment I've seen, honestly. I basically stopped watching OVAs (which I'm trying to watch in a specific order) once it got to Yang Wen-li on his first assignment since it's pretty boring compared to the previous Reinhard episodes on his first assignment, but I'm going to power through it soon. So far my favorite scene is Kircheis & Reinhard walking to some military commander's office and Mittermeyer & Reuenthal see them for the first time, staring silently while going over paperwork. Big gang moment. knox fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Mister Olympus posted:you can watch the drat thing like every two years and find something new, i'm really excited for neue these to go all the way and see what that introduces as a complete work I do like the improved battles with the CGI, but everything else feels worse than the original- the animation, voice actors, not sure if I'll ever watch whole thing. I have watched a comparison of the first episodes and it is cool there's subtle changes, like Oberstein not jumping infront of Reinhard during The Scene, which I guess matches the manga or novels more closely. But I much prefer the original animation and the HD remasters or whatever they are. I'm good with all the Gaiden episodes I have to watch and eventually rewatch series. Maybe when remake is done I'll check it out.
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Takes No Damage posted:Sounds like a pretty cool mom, what are you a Microwave rereg? I'm not sure what the difference means honestly but I saw many people comment on it. I think there is something to the theory Oberstein took Kircheis' gun for a reason, as he was somehow in on plan allowing Ansbach to get a weapon in- not to have Reinhard killed ofcourse but to ensure his place as Reinhard's main advisor and to allow him to make the cold decisions he knew Kircheis would not allow him to make. But It's never really expanded on in the series/it's pretty sloppy for someone like Oberstein, and I'm not sure how much detail is written in the books about that particular scene. It's just odd how on Oberstein's order Kircheis is forced to give up his weapon right before that event happens.
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err posted:the OVA. i know they made a yang and reinhard figuirne, are they still available? is there anything else yeah I need a Kircheis figure, or Brunhild ship which is one of the cooler design spaceships I've ever seen.
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A lot of the Gaiden episodes are awesome, at least Kircheis & Reinhard's first couple assignments series (besides the military school murder investigation). But some of them are as good as the main series. Gotta take all the Kircheis you can get yuknow.
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Gonna share some of the screen-caps of some of my favorite moments. I watched episode 27 because that's where I left off with the girlfriend who didn't want to go on watching in a world without Kircheis and I'm still just in awe of the depth of this show in so many different aspects. it's truly unparalleled. Hilarious moment from the Gaiden episodes; some of the Gaiden's are as good as anything in the 110 OVA episodes   The #2's meet <33333     knox fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Mar 28, 2022 |
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Some of the Gaiden 4 episode series are as good as anything in the OVA; ton of Reinhard & Kircheis beginnings, which besides the murder investigation one I couldn't get enough of. First episode of Silver-White Valley Kircheis breaks up a gang rape, gets jumped after fighting 6v1, and then Reinhard goes super saiyan and steps on necks, doing his best Hugh Thompson @ My Lai massacre impression. 
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Nerdietalk posted:Finished the OVA run a few days ago and still kind of processing it all. Yeah Felix is too powerful, son of Reuenthal to be raised by Mittermeyer the most ethical Empire character after Kircheis dies, & the most innocent character in the entire show Mittermeyer's wife. I envision him and Reinhard's kid being the next Kircheis & Reinhard leading the Empire into a golden age, following Mittermeyer's leadership. You should watch the Gaiden episodes if you haven't already checked them out; they are completely out of order chronologically for some reason which is lovely but watching them in order starting with Kircheis & Reinhard's first assignments I loved the majority of it.
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I can't get into DNT right now, I probably will watch it all once it's released or more is out there though, just because of how much if love the original series. I do much prefer the old animation and character styles though.
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Starting my chronological order rewatch again now and still just in awe of the scope of everything (Yang's Bruce Ashbey investigation) totally forgot about Yang's dad and how he entered the military to get a free history education. Think I'm going to pickup the books as well. Hopefully in time the novels themselves will eventually get the respect they deserve worldwide.
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The rips I do have the quality changes sometime at episode 26, as I distinctly remember higher quality for certain parts of the Kircheis scene. I was never sure if that was re-drawn or part of the laser disc versions or something. But even when the quality is at it's lowest, it's never that bad. I mean it's 30+ years old and I'd still prefer the bad quality old episodes over the Die Neue These. Yeah the new battle scene CGI is cooler but at the expense of the character designs, nah.
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Yeah, it is a little jarring to go into redrawn scenes for big episodes/certain stretches. Since those episodes are really old I don't really have any issues with the redrawn aspect, but yeah the consistency is only issue.
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Len posted:One thing that I wish had been explained better so far is how the space travel works It's discussed very briefly I think; I think it's one of those things that's better left up to one's imagination anyway, similar to the whole 'zephyr particles' technology as the reason for hand-to-hand combat.
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Was rewatching the Gaidens and came across Yung Bucock, during Yang's Bruce Ashby investigation and the flashbacks   
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Bongo Bill posted:Finished rewatching the OVA. Maybe next I'll finally move on to the Gaiden series. Why's it so good? Because you get to see Yang/Reinhard & Kircheis' military career beginnings; at least two of the 4 episode story arcs are as good as anything in the OVA. I thought the Free Planets stuff wasn't as good as those episodes, and not all 4 episode arcs are of the same quality, but you should definitely check all of the episodes out once finishing the OVAs. Also more royal court intrigue/Benemunde machinations prior to the OVA.
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I can't get myself to start watching Die Neue; I did watch the Reuenthal v. Schenkopp 1v1 and thought it was cool enough. But I doubt I will watch it until it's finished & I've rewatched the original OVA few times. I dislike the animation (though the ship battle CGI is cooler to look at) & the character designs, everyone looks so similar compared to the OVA days where every character has their own expressions and distinct facial features.
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Yeah I mean I can understand the point they look similar, but not to the level Die Neue These is and I also think they look distinctual enough. Also I just think the animation doesn't allow for the human characterization the OVA can provide. Yang for example, appears totally different to me and not the sort of unassuming, laidback, humble 'hero' he is in the OVA compared to being basically a mirror to Reinhard in appearance & confidence as well.
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Finally got poster girlfriend bought me for Christmas, after it was returned to Japan undeliverable first time. Didn't get my LOGH coffee mug yet either.
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UnderFreddy posted:hello good forums friends. You should start with LOGH: My Conquest is the Sea of Stars, which was the first adaption of the novels released in 1988. After this, watch LOGH: Overture to a New War, which is like a special edition of the first 2 episodes of the OVA. After that you can just start watching the 110 episode OVA, starting with episode 3. Once you finish the OVA, you should watch the prequels Gaiden 1 & 2 but in chronological order since I just makes more sense to me to watch them that way. Don't read spoilers/don't google search and read about LOGH just dive in. It took me a few tries to get into LOGH. I knew of it's reputation, but I would throw on the 1st episode at night and end up falling asleep a few times; pacing is kind of slow and a lot of characters thrown at you. In 2020 during lockdown I started just marathoning it and around episode 8 or 10 I knew it was one of the best things I'd ever watched.
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Starting with episode 1 of OVA and watching through episode 110 and then checking out the other stuff is totally fine also, pretty sure that is what I did the first time I watched it. What I described in last post is also fine, can't really go wrong, unless you watch Golden Wings and nothing else for some reason.
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Some of the previews are super poetic poo poo from the narrator but yeah, best not to watch those.
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Eva & Mittermeyer are the most pure couple in entire show, mirror of Cazelnu & Hortense who are second.  Felix Mittermeyer is going to be too powerful; Reuenthal genes raised by the most ethical admiral & most innocent person Eva.
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Bongo Bill posted:Never, ever watch the next episode previews. However, sometimes the episode continues through the credits, so don't just reflexively skip, either. Some of it is super poetic though, narrator always killing it. episode26 spoilur 
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I'm still on mid-30s on my latest super slow rewatch (haven't gotten the gf to want to watch it with me lately so might have to just marathon it alone), but really want to get into episodes 50-110 which I have seen the least of compared to the first half of the show.
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