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downout: Jul 6, 2009

This is a fun one relayed to me by a friend. He asked how should he respond to it. I told him don't bother. Once you see "liberals hate this country" it is impossible to do anything. This guy claims to love discussing and debating issues yet is completely incapable of arguing in good faith. He starts from random evidence and just creates or believes these warped conclusions.

quote:

Don�t let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

Second Amendment accurate quotes http://cap-n-ball.com/fathers.htm You can look them up and verify them at BrainyQuotes.com
�Kennesaw Georgia Mandatory Gun ownership�. Google this term. See what you find.

The economy. How we got where we are today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN31-nKndg8

Weapons of mass destruction Iraq. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4wQPoQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg195sgzXhU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7n3ivH3pCQ&feature=related

You may not like the source, but this is the Democrats in their own words.

You asked me last night �did your parents use Medicare and Social Security?� Yes they did. Had they put 15.2% of their earnings in to their own personal investment accounts instead of Medicare and Social Security, they would have been multi-millionaires. When they died they had about $90,000 of assets instead of millions.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-28-federal-budget_N.htm USA Today article. Google �Medicare and Social Security unfunded liability�. Over $100,000,000,000,000. They system is bankrupt!!!!!!!!! The last thing that we need to do is put the government in charge of health care. What party gave us Medicare and Social Security? The Democrats gave us The New Deal and Social Security and The Great Society and Medicare and Medicaid. Both programs were passed with Democrat House/Senate/President. They have bankrupted the country. �George Bush�s War� is a drop in the mother loving bucket. All those Democrats that are calling this Bush�s War are noted in the Youtube links above. The uninformed, misinformed, ill-informed dupes that can chant �Hope and Change� and �Obama, Obama!� unfortunately have the same right to vote as me. Alexis de Tocqueville �Only in a Democracy can those that vote for a tax escape the obligation to pay for it�.

The facts.
The Democrat Party has bankrupted this country with the creation of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
The founding fathers put the second amendment in the constitution so we would be well armed enough to overthrow our government and does not apply only to a well regulated militia. Their quotes are noted above. The founding fathers that wrote the constitution know what they meant when they are quoted after writing the document. Case closed.
The Democrats made the same claims as George Bush about weapons of mass destruction until they decided it was politically advantageous to change their tunes as noted in their own words above. Saddam had WMDs and the ability to make them and hid and destroyed them prior to our invasion. He could have reconstituted them in a matter of days if he wanted to and had yellow cake uranium to make nukes. http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caused this financial meltdown and these organizations were created by, and wholly owned subsidiaries of the Democrat party. This financial crisis is the fault of LIBERALS and their policies. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html as noted by this article in the LIBERAL BIBLE The New York Times.
Man made global warming is a big fat loving lie made up by Liberals to stifle economic growth and control our lives. Most liberals hate this country and everything it stands for and are feelers and not thinkers. See the attached PDF.

Please do yourself a favor and watch and read everything I have sent you. Don�t get your news from CNN/MSNBC/NYT etc. and all the other liberal rags. The main stream media is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat party and have a vested interest in Obama. The founding fathers are rolling over in their graves over what the media has done to the first amendment. They are cheerleaders for this administration and not journalists. They are a loving embarrassment to journalism. Stop being duped.

You are too young to remember the Jimmy Carter administration. Obama will be the next Jimmy Carter, a miserable failure. You can�t tax and spend your way to prosperity or borrow your way out of debt. You will still chant �Obama! Obama!�. Twenty years from now, you will realize you were duped. You voted for a media creation, a cult of personality, a reader of the tele-prompter, a community organizer, an America Hater. John McCain wasn�t my candidate but he actually loves his country. I voted for the lesser of two evils. Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan. Hopefully, Obama will give us a good conservative president and return the Republican party to it�s conservative roots. If not, we�re hosed.

Please go through all the attached info. It is all factual, whether you agree or not, it is true. Democrats in their own words. The America haters are in charge. Hope! Change! Obama! Obama! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8 . Don�t continue to be one of the people in this Youtube video. Spend 30 minutes of your life going through every bit of this information.

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 03:42

downout: Jul 6, 2009

crime fighting hog posted:

(2). We will immediately go into a two year isolationist attitude in order to straighten out the greedy big business posture in this country. America will allow NO imports, and we'll do no exports. We will use the 'Wal-Mart 's policy, 'If we ain't got it, you don't need it.' We'll make it here and sell it here!

This is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. I simply cannot believe anyone could think this is a good idea.

The sad part is what 'Wal-Mart' policy are they talking about when it comes to "make it here, sell it here"? Walmart is the greatest example of globalization ever. Maybe I'm missing their failed logic.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2009 07:30

downout: Jul 6, 2009

This is from facebook, used unironically as an ad hominen attack last night after the house passed it's legislation:

quote:

Maybe you all are a bunch of MORANS! I can certainly tell none of you are parents. I could careless if you win this debate or not? I'm entitled to my opinion and i really don't care about yours. If I recall this was a conversation between *Person A* and I so you can keep out of it!!!!!!!

Note third sentence. Is poster unsure of whether to be careless or not?

# ¿ Mar 22, 2010 18:56

downout: Jul 6, 2009

wormil posted:

Not just the Carter Admin, the country had been in loving hell since Kennedy's assassination -- war, cold war, hostages, recession, inflation, the military in a shambles, political scandals, people angry at government, distrustful of politicians (even more than now), our country a laughing stock. While Reagan did some shady things and implemented a horrible economic concept; he was largely responsible for restoring our country's pride and respect. He kicked the dirt bags out of the military, made sure discipline was restored, improved training, flexed a little muscle in Grenada, got the hostages back; there were many positive things that came from his presidency even though many people have forgotten, or want to forget. Reagan was really more of a conservative democrat anyway.

It's awesome you can admit those soldiers in Vietnam were dirt bags! He really was the pimp Democrat of his time.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2010 06:46

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Ahh, my uncle:

quote:

So, Apparently it is the time! Obama has unleashed the hordes... In case you didn't notice we have been having all sorts of �unfortunate� accidents and misclaims throughout the Tea Party. One must surmise from these incidents that the lizard people are moving among us freely now!

If you are not aware of this movement, then I would arm yourself well. A dag is know to make the ruckus in the event of a close lizard encounter. REPEAT: IF A DOG IS YELPING COME A HELPING! That is a sure sign of the invasion in your area. What one needs to �know� is that this nation is approaching it's end. And now is the time for all of us �real� christians to rise up and claim our mantle of saviors. It is our time to state �that we will no go quietly into the knight� and we will not be peaceful!!!. We did not embrace manifest destiny to have it wipenened from our slate so cleanly!! We must make our stand now before 0BAMA sets us up for takeover. We did not ask for this takeover! We have not accepted it and we WILLL NOTT! It is our time for our generation to become the NEW GREAT GENRATION. I ASK ALL THAT I KNOW TO STEP UP WITH ME NOW! It is time usure in the second genration of soldiers to step forward and accept what must be done. Now is the time that we must become what we are expected to be. We cannot wait any longer. We most go now and root out the evil before it consumes us! Whenever you see the police coming to your door, you make sure to ask them for some evidence of their citizenship. They are not allowed to question you if they are not citizens. ALL CITIZENS MUST KNOW THIS TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS!! CITIZENS MUST PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS! All must be prepared and keep their power dry. We have their resilence and now we must have more than that readyness. If they come call your neybors to tell them that now is the time. The word will spread quickly and WE are ready! Keep all com on 104fm!

Fwd:::::: this to all you know to protect our nation! Every ten gets you ten points, every five get you 4, and everone below that gets your 1! And we ARE COUNTING!

Ya, he is very insane.

# ¿ May 17, 2010 06:48

downout: Jul 6, 2009

BonoMan posted:

... food stamp scams where they basically trade it for cash from their friends who work as cashiers at various retail spots.

Who gets food stamps anymore? It's all on a food card that can only be spent on food. For the most part this "trade food stamps for $.75 on the dollar for cash" thing doesn't happen easily anymore. This sort of scam is near non-existant.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 08:19

downout: Jul 6, 2009

nm posted:

"Pssst, I'll buy that cart of groceries for you for $.75 on the dollar."

I understand this can be done. I was thinking more of when I saw people buying drugs, etc with food stamps. From all the information I could find, when the food stamp program moved to the card there was a fairly decent drop in food assistance fraud. Depending on the source it was anywhere from 30 - 60%. Either way it's a bullshit talking point because the occurrence isn't as common as some try to claim, and the amount of money being discussed is a drop in the bucket when compared to the many other orifices taxpayers bleed money.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2010 05:22

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Econosaurus posted:

The person wrote it, she works with republicans but is smart as hell. Could you point out why this stuff is wrong specifically? I don't want to respond with "those are all talking points "

TPM has a great chart on what makes up the current deficit spending.
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/chart-of-the-day-reminder-the-deficit-youre-freaking-out-about-is-bushs-fault.php?ref=fpblg

I'm not sure if it will help, but it might get you part of the way on pointing out some of the bullshit. Also, I think the 75 trillion number is from total debt of the U.S. This number is completely retarded as it includes personal debt, corporate debt, and all sorts of b.s. that has nothing to do with the national debt. The national debt is $13,192,234,850,314.21 as per the treasury website:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

edit: You may want to check out the post in D&D about wealth/income disparity in the U.S.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3325771
The person you quoted is acting as if the rich are just sooo taxed that they can't take it anymore and might quit creating jobs. Which is all bullshit.

downout fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jul 10, 2010

# ¿ Jul 10, 2010 19:45

downout: Jul 6, 2009

TheSpookyDanger posted:

I think it is more likely that had Clinton really stepped up it wouldn't have take so long for the events we are just now seeing in the American military to take place. Sure, it is better that he something rather than nothing, but I still think he half-assed it in the name of political expediency.

What did he half-rear end? I'm confused about what he should have done to end discrimination based on sexual orientation in the military.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2011 05:57

downout: Jul 6, 2009

TerminalSaint posted:

Not exactly an email forward, but here's a lovely comment and resulting conversation I noticed from a kid I employed last summer.

It's so cute when high-school aged kids parrot what their parents say without understanding any of it.

Click here for the full 1045x1117 image.

There it is folks, this is the future.

The worst thing in that whole conversation is the constant "hahahaha". It's incessant and grating. The two people talking are just saying, "Hahahaha, look at the ridiculously terrible things we are saying, hahaha, and WE ARE SAYING IT IN PUBLIC! Hahahah, dum libs don't want people to believe terrible things, hahaha but we showed them because we are saying it on facebook! hahahah!!!"

# ¿ Feb 13, 2011 17:46

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Dominion posted:

The argument is that the document is fake, as revealed by the use of the word African instead of Negro.

Which is crap, of course, but they are saying he WASNT born in Hawaii, and that the document was forged to make it appear he was. Never mind the fact that his father was actually African, as in From Africa, so maybe that is why the certificate says that. Or maybe they didn't like the word Negro and convinced some clerk to change it at the time.

I'm not sure why anyone thought that producing a certificate would quiet anyone down. It's so trivial to just say "well that is clearly a fake", they don't even have to change their argument. There is literally nothing you could show these people to convince them. Eyewitness testimony from the doctor or nurse who delivered him would be met with "well they paid off a doctor". Video of the event? "Could be video of any black baby being born in hawaii."

They will continue to claim he isn't a valid president because they cannot otherwise process the fact that a black dude beat their guy.

It can definitely be said that those that think he isn't a U.S. citizen will never change their minds. They have seen and read it for so long it is brainwashed into their minds. Your examples of evidence offered and then the refutations the birthers would scrounge around for are perfect. Everyone watching this for the last two years who sees it for exactly what it is knew that if the administration ever bothered to work with the state of Hawaii to make an exception for Obama and get a copy of whatever they have on file, then the birthers would do exactly what they did when Obama put his birth certificate online during the campaign. They would outright claim it was fake, act like it didn't exist, or make whatever rationalization is necessary to maintain their dissonance.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2011 19:52

downout: Jul 6, 2009

JerkyBunion posted:

I don't understand. Do mosques get built based on census data?

Who does the census data? That's right, the Caliphate. Of course they will build some mosques!

# ¿ Jul 1, 2011 03:35

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Sarion posted:

And being married changes this greatly, which probably doesn't help the confusion though it makes sense:
code:
Single 2011 Tax Brackets

Taxable Income (Single)    Taxable Income (Married-Joint)   Marginal Tax Rate
$0-$8,500 	                    $0-$17,000                     10%
$8,500-$34,500 	                    $17,000-$69,000                15%
$34,500-$83,600 	            $69,000-$139,350               25%
$83,600-$174,400 	            $139,350-$212,300              28%
$174,400-$379,150 	            $212,300-$379,150              33%
$379,150+ 	                    $379,150+                      35%
And deductions push your top marginal bracket into lower brackets by lowering your taxable income. If I was single, my marginal tax bracket would be 28%, but being married drops me to 25%; and then deductions push us into the 15%. Which should put us with taxes of around $5000 (~6% tax rate), but then our kids drop that to only around $2000 after the child tax credits. So while my base income would suggest that I pay "28% of my total income in taxes" in their crazy fantasy world, I actually end up paying an effective tax of ~2.4%.

You know that chart that shows "real wealth distribution / perceived wealth distribution / ideal wealth distribution" comparison? I wonder what it would look like if they did a similar thing for "real income tax rate vs. perceived income tax rate".

That chart makes it even more obvious that I would want to get paid as much as possible. Our system isn't even that progressive. If I'm making between 70-130k, then I would love to get paid more because the rate only goes up an additional 3% when I get to the 140K+ range. I just had to explain this crap to my dad last week. Seventy three years old and still doesn't understand how taxes work. :bang:

# ¿ Oct 1, 2011 03:24

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Maybe you should point out that the wealth in this country has been redistributed to the rich for the last 40+ years.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2011 19:59

downout: Jul 6, 2009

703 posted:

This came off of facebook so I guess it works for this tread.. anyways, I don't get it, whats it trying to point out. I had one conservative friend post it and it got thumb's up'd by about every other conservative person I know

Did you point out that conservatives should jump in line for Obama because he is doing just what they want? I wonder how this is possible if Obama is some socialist, radical liberal?

# ¿ Jan 19, 2012 03:21

downout: Jul 6, 2009

It's unbelievable how effectively the wealthy have taken control of the narrative in politics today. "Redistribution of wealth" is the perfect example. That has been going on for the last 35 years, except it has been going from those with the least to those with the most. You should probably point out to your friends that unless they are making $1 million a year or ever will be (they won't) that all they are doing is arguing in favor of a small subset (that they will never be in) of people to have more than they ever will. And this isn't through any ability or skill. It's through blatantly exploiting people. I'm sure others could say this much more succinctly than I did, but I was surprised no one had pointed out the ridiculousness of yelling, "b-bu-but 'redistribution of wealth'" while ignoring that it has been happening for a long time now at the expense of nearly everyone in the country.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2012 02:08

downout: Jul 6, 2009

New one from an old friend I just recently found on facebook:

I pointed out that many illegal immigrants do actually pay taxes and many (I threw out 75% as a number) people on food stamps have jobs. Anything more anyone wants to throw in that stands out as complete b.s. on this one?

# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 04:52

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Thank you everyone for the work you did. I haven't gotten a response to even my first reply which means probably no one wants to defend that poo poo, but your responses definitely gave me a lot of ammo for what allowed me to at least respond with, "Everything on that list is b.s." Hopefully anyone watching changed their minds on one or two things. Little steps.

Edit: I should add I have family members (and so does the person posting this crap) up creek for drug abuse and demonizing them and throwing them in prison doesn't work. We both know that through personal experience, so for this person posting this is slightly annoying.

downout fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jan 31, 2012

# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 05:38

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Dr Christmas posted:

To be fair, don't the Wall Street assholes we bailed out do, like, a ton of coke? Maybe those are the 3 million crack heads.

"Job Creators"

# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 06:10

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Well, I finally got a response:

quote:

haha drat Marc! Did you go all liberal in the last 5 years or so? lol

This guy is a friend that I haven't talked to in years, so I figured a polite response of:

quote:

I hate freeloaders, but most of them are products of a bad system. It's not really a political thing.

is fair. Given where I live, there are people that I would define as "freeloaders." Unfortunately, what most people don't consider is that these people don't live some magical life of no bills, they live a terrible life with very little to look forward to and would like to probably not be the way they are except there are no medical programs of any kind to help with their drug addictions/mental problems. Where these people end up, end up never helping them in any way and end up costing all of us more by inevitably tossing them in prison.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2012 07:27

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Xarthor posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the natural planning/rhythm method require the woman to constantly monitor her body temperature to better assess when and when she isn't ovulating?

I too was a Catholic school kid, and I swear my crazy 7th/8th grade religion teacher sat us down and tried to explain that whole thing to us because it was "just as easy as other birth control!" As I recall there were 20+ steps but it all amounted to something like the woman had to have a temperature of between 97.4 and 99.1 degrees, and it had to be on the sixth day of the second week, and then you had a 3 hour window to have sex, but only if you were married and only for reproductive purposes.

Interestingly enough, my parents never gave me any "talk". I got it in 6th grade at a Catholic school. It was surprisingly comprehensive, and when I switched to public school for high school I got an additional class that wasn't bad considering how rural the school was. I guess I got really lucky.

downout fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 26, 2012

# ¿ Feb 26, 2012 05:30

downout: Jul 6, 2009

niggerstink420 posted:

This is the thread for sharing personal experiences re: birds & bees.

I don't mind reading it, it's something I'll have to do someday for my own children, so any examples, failures or successes, are great to work from.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2012 05:56

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Nothing like getting the worst from people. People don't know how taxes work. News at 11.

quote:

Just angry, tired and fed up with the whole system. It IS a war of thought and ideology. I think it was as of 2 years ago only 50.5 percent of our population was paying taxes. It's gotta be worse today. I bust my rear end at work and lose well over a third of my money to the government. I'm tired of people who say that others should pay their "fair share" when half of our country pays nothing at all. I'm angry because I have people telling me that I have to pay for some one else's birth control because it's a woman's "right". I'm angry because the institutional left insist that I pay for abortion when I abhore the practice. I'm angry over the "settlede debate" over global warming. Don't know if it's true or not but when we have roughly 100 - 120 years of "accurately" recorded weather from the entire history of our planet, I don't think that they should be shutting out dissenting peer reviews just to try to "settle" the scientific debate. They tried to push global cooling thirty years ago after all. I'm tired of being called racist for wanting welfare and medicaid reform. Sexist for being against Roe v. Wade. Selfish (greedy) for just trying to take care of mine to the best of my ability. There is SOOOO much more... Breitbart was good at pointing out true injustice in the system. He showed that the left points a fan at you, throws a bunch of bull poo poo into it, and then cries foul because they got a little dirty in the smearing process. He showed the right's faults as well like only giving us candidates that THEY approve of and of being for the party instead of for the people. I'd be ranting more but unlike the Occupiers with their rape, murder, overdoses, and, in general, feeble minded hypocrisy I must get to work. They should rejoice because over 35% of the money I earn today is going to go to them...

downout fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 3, 2012

# ¿ Mar 3, 2012 05:34

downout: Jul 6, 2009

ultimateforce posted:

In another effort to weed out my Facebook friends list I just updated my status update that all Baby Boomers should be put on an island and murdered. Hoping for a melt down so I can delete people.

Got any other good updates for me? (This seems like a good thread to find a wedge issue.)

Trolling your friends list to clean it out? This seems rather counterproductive. I don't necessarily agree with all of the people on my facebook, but I'd rather have them on the friends list. At least then someone is refuting their bullshit. It's not about persuading them, it's for those watching.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2012 04:31

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

And then everyone in the theater stood up and applauded.

Isn't this about the time a bear came out of the audience and ate the professor?

# ¿ Apr 5, 2012 05:06

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Sarion posted:

See, he doesn't have a problem with helping the ones who deserve it, it's just an unfortunate fact that none of them deserve it!

Social Security also works like life insurance; it pays out survivor's benefits to your dependents/spouse.

http://www.ssa.gov/survivorplan/index.htm

From the sound of it, and the way it works, she probably got SS checks for the kids initially, and now she presumably gets her own checks cause she's over 60 (or over 50 but has a disability). If she remarries after 60 (50 if disabled) she won't lose the check, she'll continue to collect.

Also, the working thing is stupid. The first $14,640 she earns has no effect on her SS payments. After that, she loses $1 from SS, for every $2 she earns working. So she could work part time, bring in an extra $20,000 a year and only lose $2,700 a year in benefits.

Getting a job always pays better than being on benefits alone. I don't know why people can't understand that the system is setup this way. The idea that people just don't work cause they'll lose their benefits is silly; if they could work, they'd be better off for it.

I know this is old, but thank you for this post. I have some in-laws that don't seem to know a lot about how SS benefits work, and I appreciate the information. I should have looked for myself sooner, but either way, thanks for the info.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2012 05:05

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Armyman25 posted:

That's actually a bit of a myth. Harleys are as reliable as any other v-twin cruiser out there.

Either woooooossssshhhhhhhhh, or I don't get your joke.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2012 23:37

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Not to derail, but a friend linked me to https://www.pragcap.com a while back. He also linked me to some other articles on modern monetary theory. I read over some of it, but was wondering what others thought of pragcap, etc. It seemed a pretty decent resource, but I'd like to hear others opinions.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2012 16:07

downout: Jul 6, 2009

A person on my friends list posted the Hobby Lobby thing earlier claiming, "I support religious freedom!". So I asked them how Hobby Lobby pushing their religious views on their employees is freedom. And I got this short rant in return!

quote:

Employees don't have to work there...I would not choose to work for an organization that doesn't share my views (I.e. a residency program that forces me to write for the morning after pill, etc). Furthermore, it's a privately owned company that should not be forced by the government to provide services it does not fundamentally agree with. It's not about pushing their views, it's about their views being respected and protected.

Its ironic that this issue all comes to "freedom to choose" except when the choice is pro-life, then all of a sudden it's attacked as "forcing or pushing one's views."

# ¿ Nov 28, 2012 04:38

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Facebook's found this gem:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200197848930023

The comments it's brought out of the woodwork are wonderful! Such insightful comments as: "Obama care at it's finest!".

# ¿ Jan 9, 2013 15:23

downout: Jul 6, 2009

This quote keeps being attibuted to George Washington on my FB feed.

[quote="George Washington"]
When any nation mistrusts it's citizens with guns it is sending a clear message. It no longer trusts it's citizens because such a government has evil plans.
[quote]

The problem is I can't find a single source that has him saying this. I'm starting to think it's completely made up.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2013 18:01

downout: Jul 6, 2009

DarkHorse posted:

Man, my stupid friends have just been on a roll today

Impressive gestures towards copyright at least.

Oh, thank god someone posted that idiotic image. It's so incredibly dumb.
"Can I read a book?"
"Negative!"
"But I can get an abortion!"

# ¿ Mar 24, 2013 13:53

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Interlude posted:

DC entirely banned handguns until they were told they couldn't. Chicago banned all handguns as well as all gun sales and transfers until they were told they couldn't. San Francisco tried to ban all handguns in the 80s but was preempted by the state. CA has a roster of "allowed handguns" which has the practical effect of banning any gun whose manufacturer doesn't cough up extortion money to the government; their new microstamping regulation is accelerating this process. Assault weapons bans are commonplace; in NYC, they allowed registration and then confiscated everything that was registered. Sen. John Chaffe of RI, Rep. Bobby Rush of IL, Rep. Major Ownes of NY, Rep. William Clay of MO, Sen. Bill Bradley of NJ, and several others have publicly supported handgun bans.

Bills are proposed all the time to ban all semi-automatic weapons, one of which was recently passed and then vetoed in CA. A magazine capacity ban in NJ being debated now has the potential to make vast swaths of small-caliber hunting rifles illegal. Bills are constantly introduced to outright or de facto ban entire swaths of weapons via microstamping, requiring gun owners to carry liability insurance, banning people on the no-fly list from owning guns, loosening criteria for being added to prohibited purchaser lists (especially via dubious mental health-related scarlet letters), incrementally banning low-hanging fruit like .50 caliber rifles and .50AE pistols, widening "gun free zones" to the point where gun owners will have to huddle under a bridge like those sex offenders in FL, making the issuance of a pistol permit hinge on a letter from your doctor, requiring psychological examinations before guns can be purchased, banning certain types of ammo, etc.

Dianne Feinstein, arguably the most vocal proponent of gun control in the US Senate in recent decades, is on record saying she wanted to ban all guns but couldn't get the votes. Cuomo in NY said before the SAFE act that confiscation was an option. A few other influential politicians have advocated similarly (sources suck but they're just links to videos).

But I guess gun owners shouldn't be paranoid because no place in the US (currently) bans ALL guns.

The crazy forwarded political email is coming from inside the thread!

I support a total ban on Interlude owning any guns. Because he exemplifies paranoid nutjobs that don't have the mental faculties to responsibly own guns.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2014 16:11

downout: Jul 6, 2009

DarkHorse posted:

A "Ph.D" thesis.
Here you go! Thanks for the correction, no reason to stoop to his level

http://wlstorage.net/file/kent-hovind-doctoral-dissertation.pdf

"There has been no change in the genetic material of the rabbit."

"There has been no change in the genetic material of the rabbit."

# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 00:57

downout: Jul 6, 2009

There was an image posted in D&D some time in the past (year or two?) that debunked the concept of how people can't protest the systems they benefit from. I think the example was French workers or maybe slaves in the South? Anyone remember the image/graphic and have link?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 22:46

downout: Jul 6, 2009

lancemantis posted:

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That one is pretty close! I think the others were similar but about older issues. They were better examples if I remember correctly.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 22:56

downout: Jul 6, 2009

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

There was another one, same joke but it was like a 12th century painting, really flat looking people.

Yeah, the age added to the concept because it sort of pointed out how the argument was the same poo poo that had been trotted out for centuries for different issues. With that came the implication of it being a b.s., specious argument then and still was.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 23:03

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# ¿ May 17, 2024 03:42

downout: Jul 6, 2009

sweart gliwere posted:

The most common celebrity target is probably Al Gore, because he refuses to live the consistent and sensible lifestyle of a cave dwelling hippie who forages for survival while communicating by hobo code and carrier pigeon and smoke signals.

I see that plenty. It's usually 'Al Gore doesn't live like a hermit therefore global warming isn't real', which is just an amazing leap of logic.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2017 00:33

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