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DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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iyaayas01 posted:

Air And Space did a pretty good article a while back on Rust's little adventure. The amount of coincidences and things lining up just right for him to be able to do what he did is pretty crazy (a healthy dose of late '80s Soviet apathy helped, of course).

This reminds me of another sneaky flight A&S wrote about. http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/the_quiet_one.html

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DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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The co-pilot was 23 years old, so I'm sure he was a positive influence on the pilot! Anyway best annotation is at the end of that Wiki article. http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2004-11.html

I'm just glad those idiots didn't take anyone on the ground with them.

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Sep 2, 2012

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Jealous Cow posted:

The fun turbulence is when you hear the engine speed increase and feel very light for a more than just a few seconds.

Oh I thought that's just what it feels like when you're in a Dash coming in for a STOL landing.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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Flying wing and/or lifting body chat is never complete without:



Wiki posted:

The findings of the investigation stated that the B-2 crashed after "heavy, lashing rains" caused water to enter skin-flush air-data sensors. The data from the sensors are used to calculate numerous factors including airspeed, altitude, and attitude. Because three pressure transducers had been improperly calibrated by the maintenance crew due to condensation inside devices, the flight-control computers calculated inaccurate aircraft angle of attack and airspeed. Incorrect airspeed data on cockpit displays led to the aircraft rotating 12 knots slower than indicated. After the wheels lifted from the runway, which caused the flight control system to switch to different control laws, the erroneously sensed negative angle of attack caused the computers to inject a sudden, 1.6‑g, uncommanded 30-degree pitch-up maneuver. The combination of slow lift-off speed and the extreme angle of attack (and attendant drag) resulted in an unrecoverable stall, yaw, and descent. Both crew members successfully ejected from the aircraft soon after the left wing tip started to gouge the ground alongside the runway. The aircraft impacted the ground, tumbled, and burned after its fuel ignited.

Fly-by-wire/-light is cool but there is such a thing as increased risk from too much reliance on it. The F-117 would never fly without computer control, which is an inexcusable crime unless your mission involves dodging SAMs.

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Sep 2, 2012

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Terrifying Effigies posted:

I can only imagine having to write off brand new $135 mil F-35s instead :laffo:

I never thought about this, but the Congressional hearings are going to be hi-larious ifwhen it happens! :sissies: If every aircraft destroyed in that raid was an F35, they'd have caused over a billion in damages.

Throatwarbler posted:

Well a helicopter is just a small truck that can fly a little, they're not really as big ticket an item as jets. The US lost like 6,000+ helicopters over Vietnam and it ain't no thang. :c00lbert:

Yeah but not only did Hueys not cost $135M/each, we also had to contain Communism AT ANY COST HOOAH so losing aircrews was just part of doing business. That attitude doesn't exist anymore unless you're a contractor.

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Sep 2, 2012

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Ola posted:

Fly-by-wire chat is never complete without:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

How a poor UI and leaky abstractions killed 228 people.

Wiki posted:

On 27 May 2011, the BEA released an update on its investigation describing the history of the flight as recorded by the flight data recorder. This confirmed what had previously been concluded from post-mortem examination of the bodies and debris recovered from the ocean surface: the aircraft had not broken up at altitude but had fallen into the ocean intact.[1][147] The flight recorders also revealed that the aircraft's descent into the sea was not due to mechanical failure or the aircraft being overwhelmed by the weather, but because the flight crew had raised the aircraft's nose, reducing its speed until it entered an aerodynamic stall.[30][170]

While the inconsistent airspeed data caused the disengagement of the autopilot, the reason the pilots lost control of the aircraft remains something of a mystery, in particular because pilots would normally try to lower the nose in case of a stall.[171][172][173] Multiple sensors provide the pitch (attitude) information and there was no indication that any of them were malfunctioning.[174] One factor may be that since the A330 does not normally accept control inputs that would cause a stall, the pilots were unaware that a stall could happen when the aircraft switched to an alternate mode due to failure of the air speed indication.

Nothing can overcome pilot error.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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Yeah I was about to say, intracontinental first class of any kind isn't much to brag about these days. The leg room is still nice though.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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Serious question: What's the chance of luxury airship cruises on blinged out Aeroscraft in the next ten years?

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Sep 2, 2012

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MrChips posted:

Found another picture of the mass-abortion of 737s (click for large):



5039 (5030?) in the foreground looks like it'll end up as beer cans, what with that big tear. The one in the middle just *might* be OK.

It's totally stripped though. Literally no avionics or furnishings in them, right? What would get soaked in an aluminum-polymer frame?

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Sep 2, 2012

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Duke Chin posted:

That's all old poo poo - post something new. :colbert:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06o7fzcE1Hk
Any lower and someone would have GOODYEAR on their forehead.

The guy in the orange shirt is lucky all he got was probable hearing damage. He almost ended up a foot shorter.

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Sep 2, 2012

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Godholio posted:

gently caress you guys, I was gonna ask if that's Iran's new Mach 3 spy plane. :mad:

I imagine parts of it could go Mach 3 if it was hit with a 2,000 lb laser-guided bomb.

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Sep 2, 2012

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Beyond that the most regular ones were fighter guys buzzing people or flying very low. I believe those for sure considering how empty Alaska is and, you know, fighter pilots are douche bags.

That reminds me of a story an ex-pilot from the 60's told me. They'd fly F-4s by GA craft upside down between cloud layers. Without any ground reference the Cessnas would almost always turn upside down too because they'd think the F-4s were right side up. Another F-4 would usually creep up a few seconds later actually flying right side up and the pilot and weapons officer would wave really enthusiastically at the civilian flyer as they passed.

Of course, you'd probably get 50 lashes for that today.

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Sep 2, 2012

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helno posted:

As a person who flies GA aircraft on a regular basis that is bullshit. It is stupid on several levels and the fact that you believe it makes me think less of you as a person.

Read my post in a droll British voice. Now, tell me where I said I believed it? :dukedog:

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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I'm surprised it's not a special issue of PopSci.

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BIG HEADLINE posted:



Only a matter of time...

Does anyone know the history of this masterpiece? I first saw it in the late 90's so I assume it's less likely to be a photoshop. Did an off duty airman grab a camera and conspire with some jokers in Army Aviation?

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Sep 2, 2012

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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

Has to be a photoshop: if it was real only the cheese wheel would be unmasked above the tree line. Also it looks pretty fake.

Normally I'd assume it was shopped but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5Dxizy4ZE

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Sep 2, 2012

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CharlesM posted:

Oh ye of little faith indeed.

"Eagle 974 roger! Can you give me the nature of your emergency?"

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the CO's office.

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Sep 2, 2012

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What's the wind gust factor like on a tiltwing in VTOL mode? It's mentioned as downside for the Hiller X-18, but no such mention I can find for XC-142. Maybe the four engines compensate enough? It seems like a smart design and maybe less complex that a tiltrotor. Definitely a better VTOL than the F-35B. :v:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8GjdFLoAI

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Sep 2, 2012

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Jesus those rear stabilizers just disintegrated.

So, I was reading this thread about the minimum speed required for a sonic boom. The posters mostly discuss the details of wingtips going supersonic in a high G turn. But do you get sonic booms in the transonic buffeting regime in level flight? Especially at the low end, like Mach 1.1?

e: here's an F/A-18 going transonic, I don't think there's a boom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mr9tam_c9g

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Sep 2, 2012

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Behold, a low-flying Apache that doesn't get hung up on the trees! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIO9cXRhzoU

Of course let's be fair, there aren't any trees out there. Looks like they were trolling some people who went out shooting. :q:

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Sep 2, 2012

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I was reading about aircraft boneyards (and maybe playing that one level from MW2). Ended up finding this frankly kinda eerie video of the Mojave boneyard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlQg1k8XOo

Billions worth of planes just... out there.

e: bloggage about it http://www.airlinepilotchatter.com/2010/06/airliner-graveyard.html

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Luneshot posted:

I wonder if that airliner graveyard is open to the public, or at least for tours. I could spend days just wandering around it looking at planes.

Two of the world's biggest aircraft graveyards are closest to each other in Arizona. One is military IIRC but can't remember the name and I think they do tours.


Alright, who let the F35 team in here? I seriously want to know what those shoulder humps are for.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

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Blitter posted:

Fashion!



Edit: Uh, not sure why I felt compelled to do this but, um her hair is so canopy-like?


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They're the F16's 80's shoulder pads! Guess old is new.

Sagebrush posted:

Still looks alright with the CFTs as long as it doesn't have all that fat poo poo under the wings. F-16s are supposed to carry a couple of skinny missiles and that's it :bahgawd:

Bingo. Have they done any force of force dogfighting between F16 aggressor squadrons and F35s yet? You know, with actual maneuvering involved? Because I hope they leak video of it when that happens. :munch:

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Sep 2, 2012

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Fucknag posted:

That would be a bigger concern than the 7000 lbs of burning jet fuel, any ordinance, or just the fact of a 20-30,000 lb jet smashing into the ground at hundreds oh mph?

I'm not a hydrazine expert so most of this probably doesn't apply but you know what's cool? Spraying H2O on a fire to put it out. Know what's uncool? Getting the wrong hypergolic on the wrong day and it strips the hydrogen out of your H2O and it ignites with the oxygen.

And then it spontaneously combusts any metal and ashes around it upon contact.

You're sort of right in the sense that there are worse things though! It could be a rocket that crashes with even more of the stuff in a more potent form.

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Sep 2, 2012

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It's not enforceable. Is the FAA going to run down someone flying their drone 501 feet above the Arizona desert getting sick panoramas? Are they going to be trolling Youtube for evidence of violations that already happened and nobody called in to report a horrible limb serving quadcopter accident?

Sounds like a great use of federal resources while manned aircraft with actual mass are out violating rules too. Oh boy I see a drone flying over the airport let's escort down with an F-16 and arrest the pilo... oh wait. I can't buy a 172 hanging behind the checkout at Barnes and Noble. I can with a drone. Stop me.

Koesj posted:

I suggest you go fly drones in Somalia.

With drones you can just bring the freedom to you. :spooky:

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