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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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I still say based on what we saw on television that claims he was in the doghouse were far overstated, since despite all those claims (at least one of which has now been confirmed by people who were working there at the time) he kept moving higher and higher up into more prominent roles in a fairly speedy fashion.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Strenuous Manflurry posted:

It's kind of funny how PSP, and Wrestlehut before it, has evolved. Once upon a time there were a few Observer or F4W subscribers, and people generally mistrusted Dave or thought he was out of touch. Now, like 20 people or more here subscribe, and he's treated as the absolute authority on pretty much anything going on behind the scenes.

Never ever try to make a sweeping statement about what PSP thinks/didn't think, it will always be wrong! :)

I'd say that it is far more that enough people read Observer nowadays that they're able to point out when something is attributed to Meltzer that he absolutely didn't say (or did say but in an entirely different way).

In regards to the doghouse thing, there's hyperbole on both sides here. There were literally people claiming every single loss (or less than dominating win) was absolutely unshakeable proof that he was in "the doghouse" regardless of how it happened, and there were literally people claiming that a loss was a sign that he was being pushed.

Stuff like the "THERE IS NO DOGHOUSE!" avatar came about after he won the title for the first time from memory, and was far more a reaction to the squabbling going on here than the actual behind the scenes booking stuff.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jun 30, 2011

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Mr. Carlisle posted:

The latest Bryan and Vinny show is one of the most entertaining ones I've heard in a while. Bryan ranting about how stupid Johnny Curtis and Carlito's entire catchphrase and gimmicks are had me cracking up.

It's a free show right now too for anyone that doesn't normally subscribe.

I'm listening to this now (I think?) and while "Keith Mark" isn't as funny as they seem to think it is, I had to laugh at:

"How don't you know, you worked for a hunting magazine!"
"Yeah but it went out of business!"

Plus their complaints about how Shawn's show was utterly stupid and pointless.... and they're going to watch every week.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:

Today's Art Of Wrestling features KEVIN STEEN.


:stare:

Colt decides to talk about kayfabe... there are no survivors.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Capsaicin posted:

Bryan: "Let's say Vince lives to be 150 years old...."
Dave, cutting him off: "Well, he's not going to. :geno: "

So I assume Dave misunderstood and thought Bryan mean Vince would die at 150, as opposed to living forever?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Akileese posted:

This gets posted every five or six pages and every time it does I laugh my rear end off. It's such a great moment.

It's like a real life version of:

Bryan: Well, Dave, it seems we've put together a baseball team, and I was wondering, who's on first, eh?
Dave: Yes, not the pronoun, but rather a player with the unlikely name of "Who" is on first.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Lamuella posted:

Punchsport is like sitting around a table with the five smartest guys you know

"Hardcore Holly had a vagina on his back!"
":laugh:"

But it IS a very enjoyable listen :)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Borh posted:

Yeah, just about any gimmick that showcases how Bryan is a great technical wrestler and actually a pretty tough guy and not, in fact, a NERD would work great for him, because he can then back it up in the ring. I think people can naturally see that, which is why he managed to get relatively over even with poor booking and Cole burying him, but sometimes you need a hook to really bring it home, and something like that could be it.

Nobody listens to Michael Cole to form their opinions on wrestlers. He's annoying and his commentary has been lovely as hell and they're using his tremendous heat generating potential in all the wrong ways but calling Daniel Bryan a nerd isn't making a single person on the entire planet think,"Man I guess I shouldn't support Daniel Bryan, because that guy who everybody hates and thinks is stupid says he is a nerd."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Personally I think people are far more likely to say,"Michael Cole said something, I now believe the opposite," than anything else.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Grant DaNasty posted:

He was in his annual Davesleep where he regenerates his powers of wrestling knowledge.

10: Sleep
20: Is Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat still the best match in history? If Yes, go to 30, if no go to 10
30: Wake up

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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RBX posted:

Austin's podcast is so entertaining. He's pretty good at it too.

I only discovered this existed in the last day or so and I've listened to the Flair and Samoa Joe ones, and they were a fantastic listen. The Flair one worked particularly well since he was there in person and not on the phone, and it was really great to listen to them shoot the poo poo about guys they both knew and guys that Austin knew of only by rep etc. I've heard the Bruiser death story before, but I'd never heard about Invader having lost his child only a day or two earlier :smith:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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I know people say the early Austin podcasts are rough, but I have to say I really enjoyed his talk with Shawn Michaels and listening to him rant about male hygiene for 40 minutes was loving amazing.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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ch3cooh posted:

So JR got run off earlier this week and today he recorded a podcast with Austin!

Oh man, can't wait to hear that. I'm actually just about to listen to his first podcast with Austin in fact.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Frilled Lizard posted:

I know it was mentioned already, but the newest Austin podcast with Lawler is amazing. Go listen to it right away. All the details about Andy Kaufman, working with Jim Carrey, and the Kamala stuff. "Mr. Lawler, why do you always paint a banana on my stomach?"

I'm trying to get caught up but feel like I should probably jump ahead to keep up to date and work my way through his backlog. His shows are great though, I'm really enjoying his interview with Showtime Eric Young for example, and that's a wrestler I've never particularly enjoyed.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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mariooncrack posted:

Konnan saw a picture of Meltzer from the 80's and thought he looked like Dexter.

Meltzer is the illegitimate love-child of Vince McMahon. He has to be.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Meat Recital posted:

I'm quite partial to this Meltzer photo.



Seriously, if these dudes aren't related in some way, then Dave is a clone that Vince grew to put his brain into one day when his own body was betraying him with death, only Dave escaped the facility.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Also a world without Vince McMahon in it would be a lot less interesting. Which is why I'm hoping the Cyber-Vince initiative he funded with diverted funds from the XFL ends up bearing fruit.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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What the hell was going on at the end of the Steve Austin Show with David Lee Roth? Roth was rambling a bit but I could still follow (thanks to his many queries on whether Austin was following him) his point... then out of nowhere Austin just cuts him off and ends the show. It was weird.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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CombineThresher posted:

I think Holly might be one of those guys who lightened up immediately after he stopped wrestling because now he's not surrounded by all the carny bullshit that drives people crazy and makes them mean and bitter.

There was a rather neat bit when Steve Austin interviewed Shawn Michaels, and he noted that the day after he retired, Triple H made that promo about picking up and succeeding where Shawn failed. He (HBK) noted that only a night before, he had been basically throwing a tantrum about the idea of Tyson draping a shirt over his head.... but the moment he went home and he was no longer feeling the stress and pressure of being on the road, his best friend essentially insulting him just rolled right off of his back.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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I'm listening to the Stone Cold Podcast with Wade Keller, and the idea of Vince McMahon calling up Wade Keller to ask what the hell was going on between Stone Cold and the Big Bossman, and ending up shooting the poo poo for 45 minutes, is just enthralling. Vince is such a weird, fascinating man.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Holy poo poo yes. I just finished the Wade Keller episode where he said he was hoping to have more current/WWE-Employed guys on (followed immediately by Dusty!) and I was hoping Daniel Bryan would be one of them.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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I really enjoyed the Austin/Dave podcast but it felt like it ended rather abruptly, though it sounds like he'll be on the show again at some point.

I excitedly checked the Unleashed page today to see what the early podcast would be ahead of Thanksgiving.... it's Brian Knobbs :negative:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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triplexpac posted:

it could have went on forever.

So we're agreed on what we want for Christmas then? :haw:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Strenuous Manflurry posted:

All I remember is he claimed to have a secret (about Bryan?) that could destroy F4W.

Is it that he thinks women with vibrators are porno-bound?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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MassRafTer posted:

I am listening to a Stern show from last month and someone writes in with their fantasy booking for what they'd do if they bought WCW:

Rebrand it as NWA Monday Nitro with Konnan and Joey Styles as the announcers.

Jim Cornette: What a terrible idea... there's no Midnight Express!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Hey the Daniel Bryan episode of The Stone Cold Podcast is up! :woop:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Listening to Stone Cold Steve Austin and Daniel Bryan discussing alternative interpretations of Origin of the Species :allears:

Bryan: The ice caps are melting!
Austin: That worries me!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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ch3cooh posted:

I love that regal is just as baffled by it as Bryan and SCSA. Now I really want a video podcast of Daniel Bryan and William Regal watching lucha and trying to talk through the psychology.

E: is the barking dog in the background asparagus? Because if it is :smith: of all :smith: 's

Which reminds me, Austin started talking about a long podcast he did with Regal, which freaked me out since I hadn't heard it and thought maybe I'd missed it. Turns out Austin lost the recording (:cripes:) and is trying to organize Regal to come back so they can do it again, only Regal doesn't really believe him and thinks it's all a rib.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Chiming in to say that I also think Stone Cold's latest podcast is really great. Bryan talking about Orton and his tour bus is really interesting.

Yeah that was a pretty cool bit of insight, also in terms of Bryan saying he would love to go the tour bus route but feels he isn't in a financially secure enough position to do so yet. Orton's focus on stretching/massage/regular sleep patterns seems pretty drat sensible.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Jericho podcast was kind of boring. I've heard Austin talk about his history too many times.

I'm still listening to it, I think it's been a perfectly serviceable show but nothing really special - having Austin on first was a good idea because he's so comfortable with the format by now, and he does throw out a few things I hadn't heard before (somebody please find a link to his first ever match against Frogman LeBlanc :allears:). Jericho doesn't do a bad job but he also doesn't really seem to have that natural ease for just shooting the poo poo like Austin does. Maybe he'll improve with time, but I figure I'll only listen if he has a particularly interesting guest on.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Rarity posted:

What the hell is wrong with you?

Yeah seriously... the final match between the winner and Butterbean should be a UFC match.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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DannoMack posted:

Brock Lesnar v Butterbean could main event any MMA card in the country.

I just wish they'd go work the indy circuit instead. Make some real money, you know.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Bard Maddox posted:

I would have answered John Cena for all three. Why would John Cena's theme be interrupting John Cena? The crowd would have no clue. Also John Cena's music gets the best pop.

Trouble is it would divide the crowd. Half the fans would be cheering for Cena and half would be booing Cena. That would just get confusing.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Taz is the latest guest on the Steve Austin Show, should be an interesting listen if they go into TNA at all.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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jeffersonlives posted:

They spent a very long time building to a Bubba and Brooke vs. Hulk feud that was going to culminate in what for TNA passes as a big money match between Bubba and Hulk. Brooke Hogan imploded the angle right before the key point by getting engaged in real life and leaking it to all the celebrity outlets for coverage, which Hulk Hogan then used as his excuse to get out of the angle pretty much entirely. Then Brooke's real life engagement broke off almost immediately. Shocking how that all went.

Jesus Christ.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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The Taz episode of Stone Cold's podcast was disappointing. What was there was interesting, but Taz spoke for roughly 30-35 minutes and they seemed to jump abruptly from subject to subject like they were either pressed for time or were editing out chunks of content. It was short enough that Austin bookended the interview with roughly 10-15 minutes either side of him answering fan questions. I far prefer it when Austin gets carried away and he and his guest end up spending an hour discussing one thing or just a brief period in a long career, realize they haven't touched on anything else and Austin asks them to come back another time.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Skunkrocker posted:

Is anyone else seeing anything weird in the Steve Austin podcast feed? Suddenly hundreds of episodes from Ron Paul's podcast appeared in it.

Kane confirmed as Stone Cold's next guest, I guess.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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Makes sense, Vince McMahon is a real life cartoon.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

I wish his daughter was a real life silent movie.

Every WWE show opens with Test facedown, dead in a swimming pool, before narrating the events that follow.

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