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xf86enodev posted:Hahaha what is this post? Did you somehow miss how he started with "I've always seen"? You're free to tell us how "You've always seen (the exact opposite)" instead of self-admitted shitposting. On a topic(?)-related note, I'm still trying to figure out how we went from a guy pointing out how self-aware and self-critical Germany is of it's dark past to whatever we're talking about now, because I wanted to throw in a comment about the Gummiparagraph and then went back to see if that was still a derail/a derail at all. Basically: 
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Sereri posted:No, you see, this is what he meant: That's not even a rimshot-level joke, that's the god-honest truth there. That excavator, by itself, uncrewed as it is, would have been able to put up an airport by now.
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So between 2011 and today, we've had, what, six politicians lose their PhD to either plagiarism or gross negligence, with three of them in high-profile positions and one being the big kahuna of our loving ministry of education. How have I not been bombarded with topical jokes by my american or european buddies?
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And now the justice minister of lower saxony got caught drunk-driving. His last feat of note? Attempting to champion legislation that would change the legal blood alcohol limit from .05% to .03%.  What's next? Schröder getting busted for adultery and criminal neglect and endangerment of a child?
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elwood posted:Fox News really is something special: This is beyond beautiful. Germany has more sun than the US and solar power isn't powering the entire loving nation or creating thousands of jobs within a few years after you throw a whopping ONE BILLION dollars at it.
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NihilVerumNisiMors posted:It's funny how the ~2000 people town I went to school at had a 8-24 Rewe Where, pray tell, was this?
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Grendels Dad posted:The two events are not comparable, but I'm still sadly reminded of Anders Breivik's trial. The Norwegian authorities handled that with such calm competence and everybody just oozed common sense, compared to that this trial is a circus side show already and is getting more undignified by the day. Well, both trials annoyed (or are beginning to annoy) me because of the stage they're setting for the crazies to, uh...market themselves. I know I should be for transparency and all that good democratic justice stuff, but it just kinda rubs me the wrong way.
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I'd like to take a second and, in true german fashion, complain a bit. How far have we fallen to routinely and unflinchingly use the word "shitstorm" in media and journalism now? I outright refuse to believe the german language cannot come up with a better way to describe a bunch of people spergin' on social media networks...which is already a dumb thing to report on, considering most news channels now have their own "chief social media network correspondent" or somesuch, stooping to CNN's level in the process.
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frankenfreak posted:You can't say that and not post it! Is this somehow the same guy using cheap fasching-props to run in two districts? 
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Randler posted:The Piratenpartei, just like the AfD, has a habit of whining about the established parties opressing them. Some time ago they raised a constitutional complaint ("Verfassungsbeschwerde") against numerous sections of the ParteiG regarding the financing of parties by public funding. The Bundesverfassungsgericht has now released its decision regarding this matter. For best effect, I suggest reading it yourself. They court threw the complaint out because apparently the Pirate Party cannot find time in their busy schedule to actually sign a document giving their attorneys actual power of, well, attorney. What has me more concerned with the AfD than the Pirates is that the leadership of the former (as far as I understand) are less of a clowncar act and has more potential to form, coordinate and, uh, "critical-mass" some movement into a legit political party before political agenda, however atrocious, is considered. The Pirate leadership, to this day, strikes me as having a core of Reddit-type hold-on-to-your-principles dudes with a tendency to pick the wrong battles. Wasn't it only a few years ago that they had some defector from another party as their aspiring champion and then contemplated backing him up when he was charged with posession of child pornography and claimed it was "for investigative purposes"? For lack of a more elaborate explanation, they simply don't strike me as a party leadership that is seasoned enough in the political game to know when to cut their losses and move on. AfD crept me the gently caress out the second I saw their founder in a TV interview, simply because I thought "Oh dear christ, stupid people are going to fress this guy out of the hand, aren't they?".
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There are several reasons why the cease & desist "industry" doesn't just exist, but is so profitable and runs so well, the most prominent of which is probably that the entire process is now so ridiculously streamlined that the only human interaction required along the way is basically rubberstamping boilerplate stuff. Back in the early 2000s, there was already good money in the cease & desist area by going after copyright infringement on smalltime websites, ebay-users and edonkey/emule/ewhatever and the growing popularity of bittorrent essentially turned the protocol into a huge untapped goldmine, the only thing missing for them to go hog-wild were dedicated companies with the heuristic and algorithms to outsource large-scale claimfarming to. When that missing link went away, the Abmahnwelle of 2009/2010 kicked off. Take one of the more notorious businesses behind this, a legal firm that was founded sometime in the early 2000s and went exactly along the above route and had some 10-15 lawyers on staff until, in 2010, they exploded to something around 60 lawyers on their payroll. Two years back, I had the pleasure of getting a cease & desist from them about the alleged download of some movie. The claim was 450 in damages and added up to a grand total of 956 Euros including processing, lawyer fees, court fees, etc. The best quote in the entire thing is quote:Im Interesse einer schnellen und unproblematischen Erledigung der Angelegenheit ist unsere Mandantschaft bereit, die Zahlung eines vergleichsweise niedrig angesetzten pauschalen Schadensersatzes in Höhe von EUR 450,00 zu akzeptieren. Die Gerichte setzen in vergleichbaren Fällen weitaus höhere Beträge als angemessene Lizenzgebühr an. Oh, how very forthcoming and nice of you.  So I chuckled and lawyered up, like anyone should. My lawyer's response included the funniest and sloppiest legal wording I had ever seen and essentially read "Yeah, uh...nope.". What surprised me then was that their next response was of the exact same boilerplate-quality as the very first one. They hadn't even reacted to one of the requests in our initial response, it was basically like talking to a machine. Same thing with their next 2 responses before never writing again. These guys don't care if you don't pay because they'll just happily add on late-fees twice or thrice before handing the claim off to a collection agency. They get paid either way. The only outcome where they don't get paid is when their opponent lawyers up, because they're simply not a) set up to take claims to court b) not interested because it's an incredibly inefficient use of their manpower and time. Sure, in 90% of their cases they'd win in court, but why put in several days and countless man hours from one lawyer and, say, one or two paralegals to fight for a claim of 3.000 bucks Streitwert in court when that same lawyer could just move on to the next 20 claims that end up bringing in easily twice or three times that amount with what has to be less than a few hours of actually doing something. These aren't battle-hardened Lt. Daniel Kaffee-esque trial lawyers we're talking about here, 90% of these guys major in Forderungsbeitreibungsrecht for god's sake. But what absolutely blew my mind was the addendum of the initial claim that I hadn't really put under too much scrutiny. They attached a copy of the court order that forced my ISP to hand out my particulars and attached to that court order was the "Ermittlungsdatensatz" their bittorrent-fishing-company submitted as "proof". The monitoring of the alleged upload was on sunday, January 8th, between 21:38:29 and 23:39:34. The court order - I say again, the court order, not a request to the court, but the done, signed and stamped deal - to my ISP was dated January 9th. The very next loving day. So to break this down, in this fine country of ours, where the mühls of the justiz supposedly mahl slow but steady, the following happened in something around 12 hours:
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waitwhatno posted:Out of curiosity, how much did you have to pay your own lawyer? At least tell me that it was less then what the C&D letter mill wanted from you. Thankfully, nothing. I have the good fortune of both having worked for a lawyer-friend of mine for about 6 years and having a sister that married into a family of lawyers, so just in my immediate surrounding, there are 3 guys I can go to that'll be okay with doing small things pro bono if it's in the family. But the important thing to keep in mind is that usually, the second you as the defendant in a small-time case of copyright infringement get a even modestly competent lawyer, the legal firm behind the C&D rapidly loses interest in pursuing the claim, not because they think they might lose the case in court, but because even with a 100% certain victory, going to court in those small-time cases simply isn't worth their time. The money you end up paying is usually to cover the lawyer fees and, in some cases, the settlement of 100 Euros which (correct me if I'm wrong) is still based on the Deckelung of the Erst-Abmahngebühren. A competent lawyer will basically just stifle the C&D firm by repeatedly going "Uh, nope." until they actually shut up and decide to not take it any further. The absolutely easiest and  -thing to do for him is to say, "Uh, you can have a hundred bucks, now shut up." (in legal german, obviously) and that's that.Another option for a gung-ho lawyer that wants to stick it to them in watertight cases would be the Feststellungsklage, which, I believe, is legal german for "Come the gently caress at me." or possibly "Time to scheiße, or get off ze crapper!" but any lawyer worth his money that doesn't have an axe to grind would advise you to go down the just-shut-them-down route. In the rare cases where you get nailed for several concurrent cases of infringement and the Streitwert in court exceeds a certain value where it suddenly becomes profitable to pursue the claim, even in court, then yes, they'll go the whole nine yards and take you to court. And there's a high chance they'll win, because again: These guys aren't about ~justice~, they're a business and if they figured they might not make their case fly in court, they wouldn't have pursued it past a written lawyer-to-lawyer skirmish. It's simply not worth their time and as I mentioned earlier, those 55 guys sitting in some office drowning in C&D-cash aren't trial lawyers. The ironic thing about the businessmodel of the "Abmahnwahn" is that is has spawned a new business model that is basically already integrated in the supply chain of the previous one. A few minutes of googling will yield several - currently still somewhat small-time - law firms that specialize in fending off these types of C&D. Their business model is based on the fact that they know they can make a quick 100 bucks off a client that, in turn, is happy his 956 Euro claim now turns into a maybe 200 Euro hole in his wallet. It's all pretty.  The basic things to take away from all of these  are:a) Don't respond to the firm issuing the C&D b) Don't sign poo poo c) Lawyer up Chances are that you have, in fact done a little no-no, but by going about it properly you can reduce your loss from 1000 Euros to anywhere between zero and 200 bucks.
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Well, even with lawyers in my direct vicinity and family, my first reaction was to google up on my options, and that led me to one or two law firms that would have been appropriate for my case, so no logically thinking person should have been forced into paying up a thousand-euro-fine. Also, it appears U&C are doubling down on their redtube-C&Ds. "Uhhh, don't ask me about technische Details, but there's something on Wikipedia, so we're going continue firing barrages at countless thousands of people." 
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Ursula von der Leyen. Are. You. loving. Kidding.
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Completely different question regarding Hamburg and Berlin: What would be the cheapest and/or most convenient ways of parking over a weekend there? Bunch of dudes are currently planning a goonmeet and while we haven't agreed on where to go yet, the Bahnpreise, even the Spardeals for a weekend late-February are ludicrously expensive, so I'm thinking about just splitting gasmoney 3-ways and parking my ride there at some convenient spot. Barring a hotel that includes a parking spot, I'd think that'd be my cheapest option.
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Gold and a Pager posted:Is mitfahrgelegenheit not an option? While I wouldn't mind it for a more casual trip, I've made some fairly bad experiences with Mitfahrgelegenheit in cases where I was on a schedule. Plus, there's a strong probability of us having our own little Mitfahrgelegenheit just by splitting gas money between 3 folks, so while being as cheap as Mitfahrgelegenheit.de, it's somewhat more convenient because everyone's on the same schedule and has the same interested vested in getting there as opposed to bailing on the trip last-second. And we'll be a group of 20-30 people, so solitary hoodlums or small groups of them shouldn't really be too much of a hazard. We're obviously all combat-rated, neck-bebearded goons, most of which have watched at least one MMA match or streetfight on Youtube. And noone is planning to go anywhere near demonstrations or large idling crowds and such.
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Randler posted:No need to compliment me. It's not like I had to put a lot of effort into it, considering it's an attack that basically makes itself: Could you maybe elaborate a little on this? I feel like you need some more rope.
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I'd like to interrupt the scheduled Hitler-comparisons for a second and sincerely ask if some of you guys actually read that article.
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Nobnob posted:I'm pretty sure everyone read it, but I'm not sure why that would change anything. The change would have been that you would have a basic understanding of the article, especially the final part. quote:It's not like greece wants to be bad in finance but it's forced to do so, especially by queen Merkel and ~of course~ others. Regarding the fact that it's causing such damage, holocaust- and Hitler comparison are of course kinda bad but actually appropriate. Yeah. OR this is a hilariously retarded opinion.
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Nektu posted:And of course no one forced the greek politicians to be useless corrupt shitheads that could not govern their way out of a wet paperback. The point is, greek governments have always been like that, but before they accepted the euro it was nevertheless a system that was able to provide a decend living for the greeks. I get the basic jist of what you're saying, but you do realize you're basically saying that they had a broken system that would have worked out just fine had it just not been disturbed in any way, right? quote:Ah well. Of course I'm not pinning all that on merkel. She is not responsible for the current state of europeland, no one person/country/whoever (no, not even greece) is. She is however responsible for the austerity policies which may or may not be be the correct course. The difference between the debateability of one course of action and the previous situation in this case is that, while the course of action embarked on may or may not be the proper solution, the previous situation was hilariously insane. But I digress, the popular verdict is obviously that Merkel is somehow literally hitler while not entirely literally Hitler and the imposed course of austerity is also the holocaust because
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DominoDancing posted:Is joining a Burschenschaft or Verbindung REALLY going to help you that much? By this point, their reputation is so tainted that I would seriously question employing someone who was a member if I had the choice. Then again, I'm probably moving in the wrong circles and work in the wrong field in the first place. I don't think I knewa single member of a Burschenschaft when I went to university. The local K.D.St.V where I live has a pretty impressive setup networking-wise and my father, despite being from a completely different place and out of school for 45 years, is referred to as an "Alter Hase" (which is a term of reverence apparently) and has given out several referrals to internships/jobs and such over the past 10 years, exclusively based on one of his Kartellbrüder (whom he has met maybe once) saying "listen, there's this guy in the CV where you live, great kid, good grades, industrious fella, studies XYZ, anything you could do for him?", so you can absolutely get something out of it career-wise. It's just kinda weird in this day and age that my dad, a guy that is usually reservedly skeptical in most manners, does stuff with such blind trust for people he barely knows, based solely on the facts that a) they are Kartellbrüders in good standing and b) someone did this for him when he was coming up. Another really weird thing that happened back in the day when my sister still lived here: Once or twice per year there'd be functions/balls/socially festive stuff that my dad would be invited to and brought my sister along. He'd dress up and go there "in voller Wix" ( ), you know, couleur and all, he was announced as "<insert like four different prefixes/titles> <name> of <bunch of regional suffixes for house XYZ he was from> and daughter!" upon entry (as were all non-local alte Hasen) by a young "Fuchs" that did nothing else the entire evening...you know, a literal loving herald.The second the introductions and casual opening smalltalk was over, he hosed off with the other old geezers to smoke cigars, dring cognac and talk old-man stuff and my sister was escorted around the entire evening by two strapping young fellas whose only job for the night was to wine, dine and entertain her as good gentlemen would be expected to. I cannot put in words how smitten as gently caress she was by all that chivalry. She went on and on about it for half of the next sunday's lunch and when I questioned the morality of leaving his daughter with a bunch of people he's never met that kept bringing her drinks, he just looked over knowingly, grinned and said something along the lines of "they wouldn't dare". Oh, there's also Burschenschaften who are perfectly okay with not just having prerequisites like "you must be THIS deutsch to join", but also harboring openly racist shitlords. The Leipziger Burschenschaft Allemania here had a couple of their guys at one of my club's orientation events 5 years ago and they were pretty chill dudes to chat with, just with those weird hats, but nothing offensive, really. As the evening progresses, there's this black dude at their table (started as a freshman for an MBA here, originally from Morocco, if I recall correctly) inquiring into Studentenverbindungen/Burschenschaften so they chat him up a little bit about what they do, who they are, what makes Burschenschaften so great and all, basically they give him the whole nine yards. At the conclusion of their little Werbegespräch, they casually finish off that he'd obviously not qualify for membership, but he understands this, of course, right? They basically went "bitte keine Neger" on him and did so in the most casual, even jovial manner. 
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:Except Antifa. Cuz they're doing good work. Good night white pride! Yeah, uh, gently caress the majority of the Antifa. It pains me to throw the good apples of the bunch into the same dump as the worst of their shitlords, but yeah. gently caress 'em. The last time my city mounted demonstrations against the NPD, the unanimous consent after the weekend was "Can you please leave us be and let us run our own demonstrations? You're loving terrible. Thank you."
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Someone explain to me how otherwise smart people are mass-sharing this video on Facebook and why "peace movements" these days seem to idolize these "Souveränitätsjournalisten"-types that know for a fact that 911 was an inside job, MH17 was a false-flag (and, apparently excecuted by "jets from Kiev and puppeteered by Obama) and the word "Antisemitismus" should be banned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyd9tXdKpY I mean...dumb people on Facebook I get. But full-blown conspiracy idiocy with a nice New World Order/Global Zionism hue as a salonfähige mainstream opinion shared by people I'd otherwise consider MAYBE a little naive at their worst??
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There was a guy in my university group that was really chill and an all-around nice dude and roughly a year after meeting him, I see his Schärpe (?) under his jacket (which he had been obscuring a wee bit) and before realizing which Burschenschaft it was, I blurt out in curiosity and ask him. So it turns out he was in the Allemania, but I still figured he has to be in it for the drinking, tutoring and connections, right? RIGHT? He, of course, notices my surprise and, sensing some confusion and some latent hostility towards the Burschenschaft, preemptively goes on the offense and starts a discussion. Sensing that he's more the type of person to defend values and virtues through transitive property as opposed to belief or conviction, I kinda tiptoe around discussing ethnicity, beliefs and such of the Burschenschaft, but sure enough, he opens the door and I basically field the whole "if you're not german enough, you can subscribe to the Burschenschaft values all you like, you're not getting in, also keine Neger, bitte", at which point he just moved the goalposts and derailed like there was no tomorrow. He up and quit our group out of the blue a few months later. 
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Anyone thinking any of the major parties in Germany are remotely on the level of the Tea Party needs to read up on the Tea Party.
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Landsknecht posted:Verteidigungsminsiter is basically a curse upon any politician, although de Maziere seemed to get in and out relatively unscathed (besides drones), probably since he's Mutti's best friend. I'm not trying to make this sound too harsh, but there's a bit of a logical break between "I don't know why the Bundeswehr continues in its current form (...)" and "Here's my 3-step plan to fix the Bundeswehr", especially when you close with "look at the french, why can't we be like the french?". I'm also not entirely sure if you're just unaware the french military expenditures are like twice those of Germany's GDP-percentagewise or that the armed forces are 50% higher per capita in active personnell, or if you just want Germany to have a foreign legion-esque hit squad to go around the planet kicking in heads.
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botany posted:And what, pray tell, makes you so proud to be part of the Volk? Is it the fact that our imbecilic austerity policies caused so much suffering that our boosted export rate was overshadowed by Greece's boost in infant mortality rates? Is it the fact that during our military adventures in Afghanistan our soldiers (when they weren't killing civilians by throwing bombs on fuel trucks) spent most of their time eating and boozing, to the point where the US and the UK had to tell us to get our poo poo together? The fact that we're supplying Schurkenstaaten with military equipment? This post is still a little pro-Merkel, I feel like it isn't complete without a political cartoon of her literally stabbing babies in Greece. (Though I didn't know german armed forces could drink downrange, let alone drink like there's no tomorrow, that's eye-opening and pretty loving hilarious)
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botany posted:Are you serious? The US is an incredibly racist society, there's no possible point of view from which you could claim that integration has been successful over there. I was kinda hoping you'd bring a better argument than "lol, there's still racism in the US" for that integration model, alas, to no avail.
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I've got to be honest here, I was under the impression that we have some form of law or laws that would allow us to punish citizens that go abroad and, I don't know, do terroristy things. So while I get the point that people would want to pride themselves on being proactive rather than reactive, why are they opening the can of  with the identification of those people to begin with?On a scale of 1 to Sherrif Joe Arpaio, the Verfassungsschutz seems to have been able to maintain a fairly non-profiley track record when it comes to extremist muslim groups so far, whatever happened to the whole concept of anklaging a person that is under the suspicion of plotting to commit a crime, regardless of the crime being in- or out of country?
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:The first minister-president by Die Linke. This is the end of Germany. (According to idiots.) The end of Germany was foretold by half of my friends when the FDP stopped being a joke (for a while).
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posh spaz posted:My point was more generally about "The War on Islam," culturally and militarily. Is it the right thing to do? I think so. Tolerance doesn't mean being a doormat. I believe you should stand up to what you believe in. We just have to admit that standing up for what we believe in inspires others to hurt us. posh spaz posted:It's pretty generous to assume they're smart enough to learn German. You are quite the fountain of interesting opinions, friend.
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posh spaz posted:I get you're like, ESL or whatever I'm, uh, what? posh spaz posted:In case you missed it, I explained the joke: My bad, I actually missed that. Let's stick with just this quote then: posh spaz posted:My point was more generally about "The War on Islam," culturally and militarily. Is it the right thing to do? I think so. Tolerance doesn't mean being a doormat. I believe you should stand up to what you believe in. We just have to admit that standing up for what we believe in inspires others to hurt us.
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