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Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
A Carlos Tevez Mutiny prediction thread would have been almost as amazing as The Owen Hargreaves injury thread.

To add some more substance, can't really forget the always classy Marlon King. As the Telegraph eloquently put it he groped a girl than broke her nose after she said no. He was at Wigan at the time and had his contract terminated, served 18 months in jail, and he's now back playing football for Birmingham City. The guy has 14 prior arrests on top of being a registered sex offender.

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Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Deco got caught doping in Brazil. Such a shame.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Ched Evans has to play football in order to be happy or successful? What's he going to do when he turns 35 and he can't play anymore?


blue footed boobie posted:

If anyone thinks Ched Evans playing football is going to lead to an increase in children raping people theyre a literal moron. The only reasons he wouldn't be allowed back into football are punitive in nature.

Or maybe a football organization just doesn't want to lose money by being associated with a rapist?

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

sassassin posted:

I don't think the people demanding he disappear forever from public life have the moral high ground, and are mostly just scaremongering idiots with no faith in the justice system or humanity in general.

To be honest, do you really have that much faith in the justice system? Evans probably got a lighter sentencing than your average person would have gotten (maybe because of his ability to sign a good lawyer, maybe because of his status) and, with the rate of re-imprisonments the way they are, can anyone really say prison in itself is rehabilitating people?

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

dex_sda posted:

Your issues should be with the lawmakers and judges, and the prison wardens, then :confused:

My issue is with them. I don't think I implied otherwise.

Bogan Krkic posted:

Are you suggesting Ched is going to rape again?

No. I think he might do something similarly stupid like driving drunk or assaulting someone in a bar though.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

Spangly A posted:

He's always been beset by poor decision making on the pitch. Now he can't even decide what to do when there's no grass there.

wow!

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
So a Belgian defender (Gregory Mertens) died from complications after cardiac arrest and there isn't really any other good place to talk about it, unfortunately.

I think his death raises some valid concerns within football in particular, considering the volume of heart related deaths that have occurred either immediately prior to, during, or immediately following a game. Since 2000, there have been 51 sudden collapse/cardiac deaths of professionals or youth players. Granted, there's more reporting going on and there's more people playing the game (law of averages, or whatever), but 51 in 15 years is crazy. For comparison's sake, I did a pretty casual search for similar lists for marathon runners and cyclists. The statistics say that there is, at most, 2 deaths for every 100,000 marathon runners in a given race (which has a much higher volume/broader demographic of participants compared to professional football). Most of the heart related deaths in cycling happened after the athletes already retired from the sport.

Lokeren (Merten's club) mentioned that they have to do thorough cardiac exams on players in order to participate in the Europa League. I'd be pretty interested to see what sort of testing they have to do (because if it's just an EKG, that poo poo's weak as hell, even if it's 12-lead). I'd assume they'd be obligated to do an echo as well, but can smaller clubs afford to pay for that sort of testing on all their athletes? And I'd also be curious to see if there were any drug screenings (both performance and recreational) done on these people.

All in all, pretty hosed up.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
All these high profile players in Spain are being hit by tax evasion cases because of an act created for the galacticos. The Spanish government wanted to attract similar players as well as wealthy foreign businessmen by having flexible tax laws that allowed foreigners the ability to be taxed as Spanish residents or non-Spanish residents. Non-Spanish residents pay less taxes on money earned outside of Spain, so players with tons of imaging rights and sponsorship deals (Beckham, Messi, Ronaldo, etc...) basically go above and beyond to market themselves in order to make money hand-over-fist outside of Spain. Too bad Spain is broke as gently caress now and they want to send a message. The law has been under review since 2009 so it's been a legal grey area whether it's still applicable or not. It's a little lovely form the Spanish government to do this to players while the law is still in the books and the players meet the qualifications, but it definitely is a case where people should have seen the other high profile players getting hit by these cases out of nowhere and read the writing on the wall.

All that being said, this is nowhere near the Panama Papers or Harry Redknapp hiding money in a Monaco bank account under his dog's name.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
The Spanish players.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29357728 - Asamoah Gyan denies 'ritual sacrifice' of Ghana rapper Castro, circa 2014

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
The TUE list is pointless because those are the people that are more than likely following the rules.

I don't know about Tevez and Heinze (it is kind of shady that two players for the same country are exempted for using the same substance), but Gomez probably had a legitimate medical condition that required treatment. You're not going to become Wolverine by using a loving inhaler.

I think the jury is still out on dexamethosone. There's more evidence backing predinisone increasing performance, but that sample size is small. I've also seen what long-term prednisone use can do to someone and the risks definitely outweigh whatever benefit, if any, Nelsen would have gotten. The fact that you can get an exemption for any glucocorticoid (which is what both dexamethasone and prednisone are) instead of them being outright banned is indicative of how little they affect the integrity of a competition. My understanding of why WADA restricted them in the first place was as a means of ensuring the long-term safety and health of athletes rather than concerns over cheating.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

African AIDS cum posted:

Its all a loving sham and teams shouldn't be able to employ doctors or medical staff at all, players should be treated by independent doctors with no financial ties to the team or sport.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I thought the restrictions on them was about them being used as masking agents for other, banned drugs and/or the metabolites of the restricted drugs being very similar to the metabolites of the banned ones so throwing off the tests, but I'm not sure if that's the case.

You could be right. I would be surprised if those are successful masking agents in the world of readily available mass-spec and increasingly sensitive/precise analyzers, but I honestly don't enough about the biochem of masking agents or current PEDs. I do know that we've progressed a long way from liquid chromatography testing which has a history of being not really accurate and struggling with metabolites/compounds of similar characteristics.

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

A competent, independent, doctor paid a cool 7 to 8 figgies (preferably someone who is a regular on the world's most troll free forums football section) would throw a ton of these tue's out.

I've had a look at loads of the fancy bears leaks and the indications get laughed at by actual specialist's. For example you do not use triamcinolone for adult asthma, a poo poo load of athletes are on it for that though.

loving :lol:

I should read the leaks, I guess. I thought the TUEs would be pretty innocent.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Biggest doping scandal? Come on. Russia were never going to accomplish anything anyway. Spain's scandal was bigger and absolutely nothing was done about it.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
The past 6 games between the two clubs would not allow both sets of supporters in the same stadium until now. This match was called the "Peace Derby," since both groups would be allowed in the stadium.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
I love the Brazilian league and Copa Liberatadores, even if there are massive instances of corruption. The passion and sheer lunacy make for some amazing matches.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
It's funny, because Mutu got a 7-month ban and a fine for doing lines as opposed to drinking tea. But, that being said, you can't expect to change anything about all these players dying on the field if you don't do something to clean up the sport. You just wish that the rest of the world actually took these anti-doping test seriously rather than just make an example out of some 36-year old striker.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

But enough about Juve’s championships...

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Pretty sure he was also involved with that underage girl Ribery got involved with, too.

Bape Culture posted:

That boy ain’t right

Truer words never typed, my friend

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

mackintosh posted:

Makes you wonder just how much Fuentes kool-aid he had over the years.

This was my first thought. Heart attack in his 30s? Come on.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

Crazy Ted posted:

Neymar's always been a Bolsonaro supporter hasn't he?

Yeah, he and Felipe Melo are loving idiots off the field. Juninho Pernambucano is literally the only Good Player with a working brain.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

greazeball posted:

Didn't know you could print cr*d in a family paper

I believe
I believe that we
I believe that we will get cancer in 5 years
I believe that we will get cancer in 5 years
I believe that we will get cancer in 5 years

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
That looks fairly civil. I don't see a gun or machete or anything.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Porto player Moussa Marega leaves pitch amid alleged racist incident

Player subjected to racism, decides he wants to leave the pitch, official yellow cards him, and the announcers for the match just say the player was "insulted," and that's why he left.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

Mickolution posted:

When I first saw the clip with no context last night, I thought they were trying to keep him on in a "don't let these fuckers win" sort of way, but I think I was giving them far too much credit.

Anyone know what the coach was shouting when he turned around? Was it at the 4th official or the fans?

The first couple when he says "Vamo" are him just yelling at the sub to hurry up. After that I'm pretty sure he's yelling at the fans saying "shame on you," I think?

e;fb

Vinestalk fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Feb 17, 2020

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
https://global.espn.com/football/fcsb/story/4060160/too-much-sex-club-chief-explains-limp-form-in-romania

lol

quote:

The result left them fourth in the table, eight points behind leaders CFR Cluj.

...

"Look at Dan Petrescu," Becali said. "CFR players have sex only once a week. They meet with women only once a week."

CFR officials could not be reached for comment.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Lol "crisis of introspection." If there's one thing racist ultras are known for it's introspection

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

tao of lmao posted:

Surprised its taken this long this poo poo infests every single corner of this website.

drat. You're right. Every post in TRP is so brokebrain. Nothing to do but leave. Send everyone a PM when you find a good place to post. We'll be waiting. Thanks for your service.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

Bundy posted:

Are you Marcus Alonso because god drat that's a fatal car crash of a post

???

I don't get the point you're trying to make

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
I posted that because posts about how much TRP has changed are dumb. You said it yourself that most of the posts here are regurgitated memes with posters, like Xbenedict, who have posted here for years. The only other D&D adjacent topic there's been recently was the cavani poo poo. But that's a dope copy paste, ninpo. Thanks for making yourself vulnerable enough to express yourself.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
I'm now in the proverbial Sophie's choice where I either perpetuate a dumb argument by wasting time digging up probably like two or three old quotes over a whole year or I accept ninpo and tychan's assertion that three D&D topics since the month of may have turned this place into an appreciably worse place to post.

Instead I'm just going to say pissflaps made performative arguments about everything to wind everyone up for years and years, so really you should be used to D&D style posting.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
lol yeah, I'm doing all right. Happy new year bud.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Mes que un money laundering front

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

Gigi Galli posted:

Gotta agree with this; the press has to keep pushing it as some sort of epidemic.


Not any worse than this



or this




nitrous

As soon as I saw you posted the first pic, I knew I would scroll down to see sweet Mauro dressed up to be Wanda's little Gucci butter churner

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Genuinely surprised that of all the United youth products of that time, Gary Neville has become the most respectable and someone I look forward to hearing perspective from. Not to say anyone outside of Giggs has really done anything wrong, but Gary was the biggest dickhead to watch as a non-United fan.

Giggs prior to the affair stuff always seemed so similar to Scholes as far as temperament. But maybe that's just my dumb old brain forgetting poo poo during his playing career.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

CyberPingu posted:

Wasn't Scholes a hot head (and not just because he was a ginge)

100% and his tackling was dogshit but he was quiet as gently caress off the pitch

Brass Hand posted:

Aside from winding opponents on the pitch did Gary Neville ever have a reputation for being a twat?

No, and in the context of the above, that's a pretty fair point. Self-own post.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Lol at least he's not doubling down or quietly avoiding it? The clubs or the leagues just need to force players to do it. The players, on average, are too stupid.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011

African AIDS cum posted:

does he really need to be vaccinated if he already got covid?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

From the article you posted

quote:

Ellebedy’s team has observed early signs that Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine should trigger the production of the same cells4. But the persistence of antibody production, whether elicited by vaccination or by infection, does not ensure long-lasting immunity to COVID-19. The ability of some emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants to blunt the protective effects of antibodies means that additional immunizations may be needed to restore levels, says Ellebedy. “My presumption is, we will need a booster.”

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Lol "are they real or falsies?"

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
Hold up, I gotta slam some benzos to get some sleep before our match against Andorra tomorrow

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Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
The Vardy Slumber Party: Ribena and Phenobarbital

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