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midge
Mar 15, 2004

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KTS posted:

Yeah, that's the truth. I'm an ex 40k player, and I just sold a bunch of magic cards cause I can't make most magic events at my lgs with the baby & work schedules, but I can make x-wing night so bought into this. Without even playing a game I have so far bought:
2 x Core
2 x X-Wing
2 x A-Wing
2 x Y-Wing
2 x B-Wing
2 x Falcon
1 x HWK
2 x TIE Fighter
1 x TIE Advanced
2 x TIE Interceptor
2 x TIE Bomber
1 x Slave 1
1 x Lambda Shuttle
I'll be buying at least 2ea of the wave 4 ships as well. Getting the sweet sweet magic moneys helped ease the pain of buying everything in one hit, but it's nothing compared to what I've spent on 40k or magic over the years.

Yep. I sank about $200 into this game without even playing it too. Compared to other table top games it's pretty cheap. The place I was didn't have A-Wings, Y-Wings or Tie Interceptors though :(

midge fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Apr 29, 2014

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midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Shoeless posted:

Because years ago, as it was getting big, home computers and certainly the internet weren't as widespread or prosperous. Lack of information on better alternatives meant that the game with the big store presence, 40k/fantasy/other GW stuff was what people played. You generally wanted to get into a game that there was a supply of, and that other people around would be playing too. That's why 40k is still going, though it does seem to be reporting some sales drops over the past bit; even though there's better games out there, if you can't get anyone interested in playing it then there's not much point in buying it.

I think that as time goes on and more and more new people grow and get into the wargame/minis hobby with access to the internet and a better picture of what options they have for games to play, and more and more of the older 40k diehards and people who are continuing to play because of sunk cost fallacy finally leave or get fed up as well and open up to other games, we're going to see people going for other games, and that's gonna hit GW hard.

And there's also 3D printing which I think is going to be big-ish. It's got a ways to go, but I'll be surprised if in ~2025 most people in the minis wargaming hobby don't have their own 3D printer that they use to make their own models.

Let's not also forget that Games Workshop stores present themselves as a community. The events they host really help nerdy, shy people with low self esteem meet other people and that keeps people in the fan base. We all like to complain about them now, but during the 80's they built much of the fan base that allowed other companies to get into the business. They made loving great games; Heroquest, Space Hulk/Crusade, Blood Bowl, Talisman, Man O War, Dark Future, Necromunda. As a guy born in the UK and growing up in the 80s and early 90s I strongly believe this hobby would be nowhere near as advanced if it wasn't for that company.

It really pains me to see the company they turned into over the years, but who can blame them really?

midge fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Apr 30, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Full contents listing of the transport here : http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1163668/x-wing-rebel-transport-a-summary-and-initial-impr

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Poopy Palpy posted:

Not even "I don't want to have to find somewhere to keep the hunk of plastic that comes with that $30 card"?

Those E-Wings can't come soon enough. Till then I'm using proxies, gently caress that noise. On the list of "ships I'd never remotely want to play as" in the Star Wars universe, the Imperial Shuttle is riding pretty loving high.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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When does Wave 4 drop? Just deciding when to place my 2xEVERYTHING order :retrogames:

midge fucked around with this message at 19:21 on May 7, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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pbpancho posted:

Once my CR-90, second transport, and Wave 4 preorder arrives, I'll be at ~$1150 spent on X-wing so far. That includes a Battlefoam case, acrylic maneuver templates from Applied Perspectives, and a bunch of their tokens as well. It's also at LEAST two of everything, including 4 core sets, and 3-4 of many ships. What's more, with the stuff I sold from last weekend's regional, and the two more regionals I'll be hitting plus potential Imdaar Alpha winnings, that number is already down to $775, with potential to be much lower if I can make top 4/8 or win and ebay some Wave 4 ships prerelease. I think that's pretty reasonable for two more than complete armies!

I don't understand how you can be so into this but not be interested in keeping the promo poo poo from events. What's up with that?

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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pbpancho posted:

Explaination

Cool. I wasn't railing on you, just legitimately wanted to know why :) Personally, I'd keep a single copy of everything, then consider selling. But I'm in no shape to start competing yet.

So, Wave 4 is "on the boat", does this mean on the way to stores?

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Commissar Canuck posted:

Crossposting from the terrain thread, I still need to sand the edges square, but the Death Star terrain I've been painting for X-wing is basically done :toot:

I dunno if I'm just too SERIOUS BUSINESS, but I'd hate to play on this. It looks great but some people I play across from are already way to inaccurate/clumsy. Adding some unstable play surface would probably lead me to flipping a table.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Tantive IV, A Wings and Tie-Is are shipping to stores.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_upcoming.asp

\/\/ Don't list to him. He's terrible and absolutely didn't smash me in 3 games yesterday.

midge fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 12, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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ID of that porn star plz.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Anyone else going to Gencon? I'm booked into the Thursday Flight 1 torny.

Leo Showers posted:

I have a Shuttle :negative:

I used to feel the same about the shuttle. Till I started playing with this,

code:
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Shuttle Swarm
=============

99 points

Pilots
------

Omicron Group Pilot (28)
Lambda-Class Shuttle (21), Darth Vader (3), Engine Upgrade (4)

Howlrunner (19)
TIE Fighter (18), Determination (1)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)
Use the shuttle to block your enemy, setting up shots for your swarm.

midge fucked around with this message at 15:28 on May 19, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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koreban posted:

The closest local shop that stocks X-Wing had two for $22 each. I went home and checked Amazon and was able to get one for $8.38. I guess I was lucky or something.

Not luck per se. Your local store had a loving awful price, Amazon had a great price.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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drgnvale posted:

I got to play a full game today after work, still with the core box set. We did 32 points each, I ended up with the x-wing and a co-worker did tie fighters. I want to say he had Dark Curse and another pilot; his abilities were free focus on green moves and denying of rerolls when attacking. I took Luke Skywalker and R2D2.

We both had a lot of fun, but either I was cheating with R2D2 or that card is not fun to use at the 30ish points level. He never managed to do any hull damage on me despite getting behind me fairly often, and whenever I felt like he'd be able to get some free shots off on me I'd just do a short green move and tank him. Eventually he'd get fed up and made mistakes, then I'd blast him and then we'd repeat that for a while...

The game took over 2 hours, which seems really long for a game with three models. Hopefully it'll go faster once we've played a bit more and don't need to think quite so hard about the movement phase. And having more ships might help to kill things more quickly.

Edit: Lots of words, just to say that I am digging this game and looking forward to playing a lot more.

This is not uncommon. Luke's ability vs 2 attack dice is pretty decent odds. Bolt on R2-D2 and he's a pain in the arse. The TIE player should have been trying to bump Luke (he moves before him) and use the 2nd TIE to get range 1 shots. 3 attack dice vs 2 defense has a 60% chance to hit with no modifiers on either side (jumping to 84% with a focus). Luke basically has auto focus, bringing this chance down to 40% (70% with focus). 2a vs 2d with Lukes ability is 22% chance to hit (40% with focus). If the attacking TIE is backstabber he would also get an extra attack die,

midge fucked around with this message at 14:58 on May 22, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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drgnvale posted:

Can you explain what you mean by bump? Do you mean try to get his tie where he expect my xwing to go so I stop while touching him? Or do you mean crash into my stationary xwing? If it is the latter, wouldn't the xwing still be able to move since you can pass through ships freely?

And if he does block me from completing a full move by guessing where I'd stop, does R2D2's power still work?

Bumping is the tactic of placing your ship where you expect your opponent to end a maneuver. The ship does not complete the move and is moved back along the movement template untill it "bumps" into yours. The ship is denied an action, so no extra focus for dodging and it also cannot attack the ship it's bumped into (ships touching bases cannot attack one another, regardless of arc).

With this in mind, you can try and force a ship to land within range one of your other ship, with no focus attack to aid the defense roll. R2D2 would still trigger if you attempted to perform a green move, as would stress removal. Which also makes you more predictable. If Luke has no shields left he's probably going to make a 1F, 1B or 2F, making the bump even easier. This is why having stress is a very bad thing, same principle. A stressed pilot is a predictable one...for the most part.

So. Tie fighter moves first, move to roughly where Luke is expected to land, maybe using barrel roll to aid this. 2nd Tie moves into firing position. Luke moves last bumping into TIE 1, giving TIE 2 a sweet range one shot, hopefully with no return fire.

My post uses this tactic with the shuttle for the rest of the swarm to setup shots.

Note : This is what makes advanced sensors such a bargain.

midge fucked around with this message at 17:31 on May 22, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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TouchToneDialing posted:

My girlfriend and I hit up two tournaments and did very well. I went 4-0 at both and she went 3-1 only losing games to me. We got first and second at both, got one of each ship and got a bonus vinyl mat!

We planned to hit up another one Sunday but I think we are going to skip it and take a break.

It was a very fun two days.

WOAH CHECK OUT MR BIG SHOT HERE.

I threw away 3rd place in the 2nd event he's talking about because I make poor alcohol decisions the night before a torny. Protip : B-Wings can only make a 2 KTurn.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Ain't nothing like spending an entire weekend locked in game stores!

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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enri posted:

To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if they were limited by the physical space available, there's a reason I stopped going to the local club when they changed venue to the LGS (paying £2 a week for the privilege of playing the same people I can play at my house, without the cramped conditions and excessive noise of 40k players diving around tables :v:)

It does say on their site that every player will get the promo card too, what ship is it for?



Headhunter

\/\/ Yep. I hate the design.

midge fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jun 2, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Shockeh posted:

Didn't even consider Predator, which got me theorycrafting for my weekly game!

==================
Arcs? What Arcs?
==================

Han Solo (53)
YT-1300 (46), Predator (3), C3-PO (3), Millennium Falcon (1)

Lando Calrissian (47)
YT-1300 (44), Outmaneuver (3)

Theory - Every turn, you use C3-PO to guess '0' so either way you get 1 Evade, boosted to two by the Action fed to you by Lando.

Outmaneuver is a waste it only works for the printed arc, not 360 degrees (I'm assuming you thought this wasn't the case). Predator on Han Solo, you can't reroll a dice more than once. Also remember that C3-PO is once per turn, same as that evade token.

midge fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jul 2, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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Strobe posted:

How sure are you of that? Outmaneuver as printed just says "when attacking a ship inside your firing arc". The Falcon's firing arc is 360 degrees (as helpfully designated with that circular arrow). This sets it apart from ships that are capable of mounting turreted weapons that specifically mention "outside your firing arc".

Very.

"Each ship in this pack uses a turret as its primary weapon. Thus, each Ship card shows the Turret Primary Weapon icon, and each ship token shows a circular red arrow as a reminder.
When attacking with a Turret Primary Weapon, a ship may target an enemy ship inside or outside its firing arc. When attacking with a secondary weapon, the ship must still target a ship inside its firing arc {unless specified on the Upgrade card}."

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Lemon Curdistan posted:

e; in other news, I caved and bought a Firespray-31 today. I don't know how I'll fit it in a 100 point list but some of the stuff you can do with it and Krassis/Kath with a Merc Copilot look really, really fun.

The list I'm planning on taking to nationals is :

code:
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Boba's Buddies
==============

100 points

Pilots
------
Boba Fett (46)
Firespray-31 (39), Veteran Instincts (1), Tactician (2), Engine Upgrade (4)

Academy Pilot (12)
Academy Pilot (12)
Academy Pilot (12)
Howlrunner (18)
Bearing in mind that this is build for the current falcon heavy and phantom scare meta, but it's performed well against a variety of lists. If it hits the top 16 I'll be pretty drat happy. Most people react with "Boba....really?"

...and yes, tactician works out of both firing arcs.

midge fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jul 9, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Lemon Curdistan posted:

Yeah, I'd be tempted to run something like that if I want to use it at 100 points, but I find mini TIE swarms kind of boring.

I was mulling over Boba + Navigator last night,

Yep, they are. But no other combination of Imperial ships with Boba has the firepower to bring down 2 Falcons before dying itself.

Fettigator is an actual thing

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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My final list for regionals tomorrow. Gulp.

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/98673/binayre-consignment

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Came in top 8 at my first event. Fairly convinced I should I been top 4. I played a guy with marked dice and a really odd way of "rolling" the dice. He'd have them in his hand, look at them, close his hand and shake them up, look at them again before tossing them out. Put it this way, 2 lists that made the top 8 only managed to kill 3 of his headhunters across 2 games; one of those games being 4 B-Wings and a Z-95 which was the only other list I lost to that day and it lit the gently caress out of me. 2 other players watched the game with me and mentioned that exactly the same thing happened in their games with him. Know I know luck when I see it and luck doesn't typically last all day. More so when you are rocking nothing but Z-95s.

Overall I like my list, it's not a hard and fast counter to any particular enemy. You have to be a little tricky in the way you fly it, which suits me. Kath was never destroyed.

midge fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jul 13, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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Well, this was after being in the store for 12 hours. Fatigue sets in and the last thing you really want to accuse someone of is loving with the dice. After my finals game he did the same thing to my friend while another friend watched (I had to go get a pint I was so pissed off). After I learnt this I told the TO something was up, the guy had marked dice and that the final should be played with a netural, common dice pool. Final score : 100 vs 24 against the cheat. No poo poo huh?

I'm pretty bitter about it. He was 1 of the 2 losses I had all day long. Not to mention I played his son who was also a budding cheat...picking up movement dials once movement began, doing things out of sequence, measuring range before combat (not a target lock action), yadda yadda.

The whole X-Wing community I've met so far is laid back, forgiving, co-operative and rule abiding. So this guy REALLY stood out and sadly soured the whole day.

Silver lining : 4 out of the 5 people in our road trip crew were in the top 8 :)

midge fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 13, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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I'm not just talking about a quick peak at your dial to make sure you didn't make a lovely move during activation. I'm talking "oh, he predicted my move and blocked me with an academy, oh poo poo let me bring this dial close to my chest and do something"

The way I see it, activation doesn't begin until both players say "done?", "done" "ok". Before that point you can pick up your dial and do whatever you like.

Edit : I obviously called the gently caress out of this guy.

midge fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jul 13, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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Lunatic Pathos posted:

edit: To be clear, he doesn't roll them funny or anything, but he is the one that has publicly made the claim that those dice work better for certain results. If he really thinks that, I think he should abstain from their use in a serious tournament for fairness sake. If he wants to use his own dice and just not use those two at all, that would be fine with me. Basically, he's the one claiming their weight is off, not me.

If he's that much of an idiot to claim to such a thing he's pretty much asking for it.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Sorry for double post, but it's a new discussion point.

Cards from Tantive IV (C-3PO basically) were not legal in the Nuernberg regional. Is this the start of a grassroots ban? How can an official event pick and choose what is legal?

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I wish C-3PO was banned/adjusted. Anything that is an instant addition to an already common top tier build needs pretty strong consideration.

midge fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 14, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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SageNytell posted:

Fixed that for you.

So I finally got a friend to play a game with me, ran Baron Fel+PTL, Delta Squadron+Ion Cannon, and two Alpha Squadron pilots. My friend threw together some weirdness with Tycho, Etahn, and two rookies.
I smoked Etahn by turn 2 and lost a total of one squint the whole game. He folded after Rookie 2 was his only ship remaining, and that sort of killed his desire to continue.

And I was really hoping for an Xwing buddy. :(

Maybe you should have played a lovely squad vs a decent squad so he actually had time to get into the game. Y'know, before grinding him into the loving dust so hard he'll never touch a dial again. You, as the educated player, knowingly let him pick a disorganized squad vs one of the most OP pilot/upgrades in the game.

Bravo. You sound like a oval office.

midge fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jul 22, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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SageNytell posted:

This was the third game I had played, total. All three games have been, over the span of the last year, with this same guy. :(

I am not at all an educated player, most of my knowledge comes from this thread and I have no practical knowledge of how these ships play. I have bought the ships as they've been released in the hopes of playing. I was not aware this was a dominating build, I just liked the way Fel is described by reputation from the Xwing books.

poo poo, I thought Etahn was supposed to be really good. I thought I was screwed taking only one ship with shields. I suppose that was mistaken.

Edit:
Aren't the game-breaking builds Phantoms and Falcons? I don't see lists of squints being tossed around a lot in the thread. I wish I could get a better feel of the meta for this game, I was not trying to stomp my buddy. :saddowns:

Your wording really didn't imply this scenario, I'll kinda take back my final comment.

It's not game breaking per se, but Fel with PtL is one of the most difficult and frustrating combinations to deal with. It offers amazing action mobility with a high pilot skill (read : get out of arcs) and gives you a free focus for doing so to use during your attack. Combine that with one of the best dials in the game and you can run rings around a new player. Yes, Fel is a badass in the books and it's reflected here. Check out the X-Wing Rogue Squadron: In the Empire's Service graphic novels for Fel stories.

Etahn is support. The ships he had to support sucked and he was an obvious first target priority for you. A more even, 1 on 1 matchup would have been Horn and Fel with some upgrades either side.

Everyone is crying right now about Phantoms and Falcons. Not because they are inherently game breaking builds, but one begets the other and it's hosing the competitive meta game into a rock>scissors>paper situation. Leading most players to believe that if they don't run one build or the other they will not stand a chance in high level play. But that's exactly what it is, high level play. Don't worry about them. Play to have fun, which means making sure that both builds you are running have a equal chance on paper. That way you'll both be testing your asteroid placement, ability to read your opponent and maneuvering skills as opposed to it just being a wipe.

midge fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jul 22, 2014

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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SageNytell posted:

Since evidently my ability to gauge strength is off, does a tricked-out Vader with Engine Upgrade, Outmaneuver, and Cluster Missiles provide a similarly overpowering ship, or is that more in the realm of defeatable?

You've made Vader into a bit of a points pinata. He's really not that hot, and cluster missiles will probably end up being a waste.

Not knowing what you have it's hard to make recommendations. But my advise for players still getting to grips with the game would be a 3 X-Wing rebel build with named pilots vs a Firespray and some royal guard interceptors. Neither side has an overwhelming advantage with attack dice (3x3 per side) and it will come down to play style. All while being pretty fun. Interceptors and Firesprays are fun as poo poo to fly and an elite X-Wing team reeks of theme.

midge fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 22, 2014

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Mar 15, 2004

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Rulebook Heavily posted:

A guaranteed 1-evade on every defense roll with a B-wing is hardly a waste, but objectively speaking I'd probably be better off with a merc copilot on that build.

C3-PO is once per turn. Great username / post combo.

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/C-3PO

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Ahem.



http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4956

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Poopy Palpy posted:

That's how I would read it too, if Fettigator wasn't a thing.

Exactly. Fettigator proves you can choose the order the effects are processed when dials are revealed.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Tippis posted:

Han Solo (2pt) — You may spend your target lock to change all eyes to a hit when attacking a locked-on target.

I'd probably consider this with the number of times I've rolled Eye-Eye-Hit.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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Strobe posted:

You know what else does that?

Focus.

totally hadn't thought of that thanks man

midge
Mar 15, 2004

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It gives you an option. I've ended up rolling double focus dice many times with a target lock because I'm attacking the same turn that I acquired the lock. I'd much rather turn those two eyes into hits instead of rolling the dice again. "extremely situation" is a bit of a push. The turn when you get a TL (unless you have the ability to otherwise grab a focus) you will not have the focus. Not to mention that if you do have a focus you'd be able to save it ready to use during defense. It allows you to test your luck without commiting to burning the lock. If I'm making an attack and roll miss-miss-hit, I'd probably not use the TL and save it for a later turn. If I roll eye-eye-hit I would 100% use that ability.

It's not a great way to spend 2 points, but with the upcoming ability to throw crew onto a B-Wing whom love taking single turn TLs because they don't give a gently caress about defense, he's not a complete wash.

\/ It also uses a different slot.

midge fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 2, 2014

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You guys all need to be watching https://twitter.com/dicetower_news right now. loving Star Wars descent.

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