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Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Fluo posted:

I really need to stop buying the guardian same time when I once in awhile get private eye. I remember the Tate Modern ones and I thought they were so bad I must have read them in Private Eye it seems. :doh: Seriously, I've never met anyone who bought Private Eye and enjoys the cartoons. The one is quite good, however the only one I remember clearly was that Tate Modern one.


Edit: I'm confusing that artist with Andrew Birch. :doh:

Ugh yeah gently caress this Birch guy. He pretty much just hates all art, one of his strips in PE a few months ago had him slagging off the Pre-Raphaelites so it's not like he's just one of those fuddy-duddies who dislikes anything new.

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Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Can someone remind me who the guy with his head up his rear end in Rowson's cartoons represents, I constantly forget. TIA!

I don't think so, the Chancellor (Finance Minister) is George Osborne who is the dude with his face on the ground on this latest one.
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Weldon Pemberton fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Mar 3, 2013

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

As an American, I do not understand the symbolism of Osborne's red briefcase. What is that specifically referencing?

It has its own little section on wikipedia, where you can learn about its history. It's one of those strange old traditions that has become a symbol in British politics.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Deleuzionist posted:

How come both Miliband here and Cameron usually appear almost as if pregnant? Weirdly cut suit or just generally loathsome bodyform?

A bit of both I think. The suits are not weirdly cut or being worn wrong, but doing up that one button like that pulls them in a bit at the waist and will emphasize any gut below.

I quite like the Indy cartoonist, he's pretty derivative of Bell and Rowson but you can see he's trying to keep alive the traditions of repulsive-looking cariacatures and references to older works. A+ for effort and he usually makes a decent point, maybe one day he'll come into his own.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

:stonk: What is the Queen doing to him?

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012


Grabbing it by the neck, the best way to handle a raven.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

big scary monsters posted:

I'm a fan of the fox, though. I look forward to the day the Express cartoons are nothing but hidden animals.

Some of the animals aren't even hidden in this one! Like the one with the baby bottle!

serewit posted:

Is the dude who does the Express cartoons like the British equivalent to JRROSE! from the American thread?

Kind of, if JRROSE! was obsessed with the royal family instead of his local womens' sports teams.

He obviously got the job pretty much for his love of the royals and otherwise milquetoast opinions, because his comics are really suited to the content of the Express in general.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

I feel relieved that researchers think there is such a thing as the Standard Southern British accent, I thought it was just me that could only differentiate between south-eastern people's accents if they were either from London or an aristocrat. Everyone else sounds exactly the same.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

^^^^pff, beaten, but I like mine better.

ClownSyndrome posted:

Ok, there's the fox, the bird...but I can't find any members of the royal family

The slenderman-looking figure in the background is actually Princess Anne in cosplay.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

baka kaba posted:

...what? Is this another bizarre insight into Mac's marriage?

I think it's a take on the old "lonely housewife has affair with postman" joke. I was angry and confused for a second when I thought he was trying to say RM postmen just lie around having orgies all day and thus need privatisation to give them a kick up the arse, but then it clicked.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

I first assumed the horse was a unicorn and thought "oh Falkirk is in Scotland so it makes sense". Then looked again and it doesn't have a horn at all, there must be something in this tea :psyduck: So yeah, a reasonable label.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Cloud Potato posted:

Yesterday's Observer:

"George Osborne's not-so magic wand - Chris Riddell on the chancellor's flawed alchemy"

:stare: Normally I think people are a bit harsh on Riddell and his labels, but Jesus.

Ed: Also, fox in speedos, I think this is just cause to add "furry" to the Express cartoonist's list of crimes. Burn the witch :colbert:

Weldon Pemberton fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jul 29, 2013

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

kapparomeo posted:

Brushing your teeth is Counter-Revolutionary. Floss is unforgivably bourgeois. Only a bleeding jaw of cavitated tombstones will be Correct in the glorious People's Republic. :rolleyes:

Hollywood teeth have nothing to do with healthy teeth, or Americans wouldn't keep pestering us about having "bad teeth" (i.e.: not perfectly white) despite the fact we actually have better dentistry than them these days.

Well, they probably would because it's funny and only a bore gets butthurt about it, but you know what I mean.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Puntification posted:

I don't think that's sufficient justification to call him very good: look at Bell, Rowson, Sharpe, Riddell and Brown vastly more effort and craftmanship go into their work.

I love Bell and Rowson but the only thing they really put "more effort" into is establishing a self-referential framework in their cartoons (i.e: you see a certain concept like Nick as Pinocchio developing over time, so that eventually a bunch of splinters is easily identified as him by a long-term reader, and nonsensical to a newbie), making references to classic art, and using colour (which is the only thing that also applies to Riddell). While they aren't bad watercolourists they aren't outstanding ones either to be frank. Most of the fun in their cartoons comes from the dirty jokes, the framework I just alluded to, and the fact that they always punch up with their satire.

Mac has a distinctive and interesting style, does his cartoons in a clean and crisp black and white medium and occasionally makes a funny joke. There's nothing revolutionary about his art and he has awful views, but he's still a decent cartoonist. I think it would be weird as hell if we started expecting people to make Bell and Rowson-esque works to meet the standard of "good cartoonist" anyway, since frankly cartoons are one of the few mediums which is more suited to simplicity and coherency. But we're not going to agree on this so whatever.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Cliff Racer posted:

In the sense that its government exists to serve its own people and not the whole world yes it is just like Iran's and Venezuela's governments even if it goes about its job in a vastly different way.

Maybe I'm just a cosmopolitan pseud but I think national governments should "serve their own people" in the sense the accounting branch of a company should "serve its own department". Yes, it's true to an extent, but keeping in mind the impact on the world stage and what is good for humanity at large isn't entirely irrelevant. The difficulty arises when the nations all have different ideas of what benefits humanity, but that's the point of international relations and diplomacy.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

The Dark Project posted:

Anyone able to tell me what that last Steve Bell cartoon is about?

Assuming you are referring to the one posted last here: I haven't really been following the story closely but the former (?) chairman of the Co-operative company has been accused of buying coke and crystal meth, and the Tories are having a field day with this as the Co-op donates to Labour and espouses the autonomy of its workers. The pic shows Cameron, Osborne, Boris etc. in a parody of a photo that was taken while they were in the Bullingdon club (an exclusive club at Oxford where poshos smash up bars and pay for the damages afterwards, party a lot, burn £50 notes in front of tramps as initiation rites). They have bills up their conks because rich tossers are known for coke habits, and even if they never did coke (a hooker Osborne used to hang around with claims he did, at least) they were part of a club known for acts just as scandalous as what Flowers is accused of.

Tl;dr: Tories are hypocrites.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Ahaha, for gently caress's sake. Can't even cover a completely unrelated story without bringing :byodood:MIGRANTS!:byodood: into it.

That Rowson is great, though.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Kurtofan posted:

I see the only time people talk about us it's when sex is involved :v:

You guys (French?) are doing a poor job of throwing off your reputation as a bunch of amorous love rats with these last two presidents.

At least Berlusconi was only one man, so ridiculous that he transcended being portrayed as an extension of an Italian stereotype because it was tamer than the reality.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Junior G-man posted:

That's either some used bog roll or the world's longest pair of socks on the ground.

Maybe they're judges' wigs?

They're probably meant to be stockings. I don't know any middle-aged women that wear opaque black and white striped stockings, though.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

The Salmond in the Jennings cartoon is awful, I thought it was Cyril Smith at first and some more had come out about Paedogeddon.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

I don't quite get the club renaming. Lokomotiv Crewe? So is it named after the local industry in homage to the workers or is the car industry the owner of the club? The latter doesn't sound very socialist, but the weird spelling seems very corporate.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Paladinus posted:

These are just names of Russian clubs. And apparently Crewe has a long history with railways.

Oh yeah, I'm retarded, locomotives refer to trains and not cars (Crewe has a long history with both).

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Personally I like the Corgi noticing one of them standing in a puddle of piss.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

Cloud Potato posted:

Sunday Telegraph:

End of British Summer Time.

We're supposed to be incensed at Corbyn for turning back time, but literally the only bad things in this cartoon are the Winter of Discontent and the temporary effects of the strike. There's good films on at the cinema, we still have industry, Woolworths exists, it's the height of the punk movement, everyone (from refuse workers to punks and Ford Escort drivers) is opinionated on civic issues, and cops/buses look more iconic and interesting.

Plus, you can apparently find random Rubik's cubes in the middle of the pavement. Is it really such a big ask for a competent artist to have put it in the trash or drawn one of the punks fiddling with it?

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Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

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At least someone's talking about what a poo poo Modi is and no just going "LOL HE'S INDIAN"

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