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A while back someone asked about Tom Shippey's books; I wholeheartedly recommend them, though I'd say The Road to Middle Earth is better than Author of the Century. It depends on what exactly you're looking for, really; while both of them cover some of the same ground, Road is primarily about Tolkien's philological background and very thoroughly covers the Ancient and Medieval literature that influenced the Lord of the Rings and how Tolkien tried to preserve or revive a literary tradition that was all but forgotten. Whereas Author approaches Tolkien as [an] author of the [20th] century and how he compares to other writers of his time who dealt with the same issues of the World Wars, industrialization and evil in the modern world, such as Orwell, Golding, Vonnegut, etc. Both are very readable, but I found Author to be a bit of a retread; I would say if you really want to understand Tolkien, The Road to Middle-Earth is probably the single best book for that.
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Levitate posted:Did Christopher Tolkien actually write anything at all that wasn't basically just editing his fathers notes? If only Christopher Tolkien had the artistic integrity to give the fans what they want, like Brian Herbert...
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2013 21:16 |
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Not from myth, but also a fairly obvious inspiration: Gondor = East Rome Arnor = West Rome If you really want to go in depth into the mythological background of Tolkien's work, I recommend Tom Shippey's The Road to Middle-Earth.
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People have been a bit smug at you, but to answer your question, there's no such thing as a "single original draft" that got cut down for publication. Tolkien worked on LotR for 12 years or so, and he didn't start out with much of a plan. for example, Frodo would originally meet a hobbit named Trotter in Bree, who would only turn into Strider, and Strider into the lost heir of Elendil, over numerous revisions. If that process interests you, you can get the four volumes of Christopher Tolkien's History of Middle-Earth that trace the creation of LotR. But there's no such thing as a longer "director's cut" out there, if that's what you're after.
Hannibal Rex fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Poldarn posted:Chris doesn't have an imaginative bone in his body, and has made his life's work editing and compiling everything his father did. Someone else interpreting daddy's books, and interpreting them well, is simply intolerable. Thankfully, Brian Herbert has a much more reasonable attitude, which led to all those magnificent Dune sequels. Just imagine, we could have had Lord of the Rings 2, co-written by Kevin J. Anderson.
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Octy posted:Who's Steve Jackson and what did he do for orcs' rights? I know that one was Livingstone. Sshh.
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my dad posted:Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! Sassassin! :jrrtears:
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Gimli, do you like lays about gladiators?
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English Breakfast.
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Dúnadan, Where's My Ring?
Hannibal Rex fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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The Mûmakil Man
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Clear and Present Ranger
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Inglorious Eorlingas
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The Shiring
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The Wight Stuff
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Pham Nuwen posted:The question that's really been bugging me is: did Gandalf gently caress? Mr. Wands was very attached to Shadowfax.
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# ¿ May 8, 2020 14:29 |
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Imagined posted:Outside of videogames, has there ever been a prequel to anything, ever, that justified its own existence and added to the qualities people loved about the story it leads into? I'm sure there must be only a sith deals in absolutes but I'm completely drawing a blank. Hmm. Spartacus: Gods of the Arena
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skasion posted:He did bring it to Numenor (none of the Numenoreans, apparently not even the Faithful, had been told about the rings by the elves, for elves are assholes) and brought it back by hand-waving powers/spirit juju. Well, at the council of Elrond they do say that droppung it in the ocean would not be a permanent solution, and it would still find its way back to its master. I now imagine Sauron building his own Glomar Explorer to raise the Ring from the sunken ruins of Numenor early in the Third Age.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2020 13:04 |
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I respect Peter Jackson for what he achieved with the trilogy, but I've always liked to imagine an adaption by Michael Mann with a similar atmosphere to his Last of the Mohicans. That film has always struck me as very Tolkien-like in its melancholy tone and themes.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2021 19:10 |
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sassassin posted:Give him 15 years he might look old enough to play Frodo. If he shaved his head he could play Gollum, no need for CGI.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Sam Elliott would make an excellent Elrond. I want to hear him speak Elvish. The Man Who Killed Sauron and Then the Bombadil.
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Imagined posted:Not to derail, but the Nazi and Unit 731 experiments didn't teach us anything. I'm a bit shaky on the subject, but I'm afraid you're wrong there. A quick google turned up Hubertus Strughold, for example, who got Paperclip'd. And the Unit 731 people got immunity from the US and leniency from the Soviets, in exchange for their research data.
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ALL SHALL LMAO, AND DESPAIR!
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