Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Most of Jiro Matsumoto is great. Freesia, Uncivilized Planet, Tropical Citron, A revolutionist in the Afternoon, I also recommend his short story collection Keep on Vibrating.
Only in a few works he goes too much in the nutty direction, like in Becchin to Mandara.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Just yersterday I found a pair of interviews well related to this thread
http://mangabrog.wordpress.com/

The first one has Inio Asano, Taiyo Matsumoto and Keigo Shinzo, the second has Taiyo Matsumoto and Daisuke Igarashi.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Wild Horses posted:

Did they stop translating All Rounder Meguru or what? That was the best martial arts manga i've read and ... nothing or little forever

what

code:
Date 	Title 	Vol. 	Ch. 	Groups 	DL
08/04/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	10 	91 	Silent Sky
07/13/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	10 	90 	Silent Sky
06/26/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	10 	89 	Silent Sky
06/12/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	10 	88 	Silent Sky
05/20/14 	All Rounder Meguru 		87 	Silent Sky
04/22/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	9 	86 	Silent Sky
04/12/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	9 	85 	Silent Sky
04/04/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	9 	84 	Silent Sky
03/27/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	9 	83 	Silent Sky
03/20/14 	All Rounder Meguru 	9 	82 	Silent Sky

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Gyre posted:

It was extra loving creepy to me, because he absolutely pinpointed what sexual situations are like as a woman when you're under extreme mental stress. You just want to stop being and "melt", and sex is the way of doing that. I don't feel skeeved out by it, just thoroughly creeped out at how much it lines up with reality.

Realistic sexuality creeps you out??
I suppose people are too accustomed to "fake" sexuality like ecchi/fanservice.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



If anything, the scene was "delayed" because the MC is kind of crazy and a creepy stalker and Mari was his "pure waifu" so he specifically avoided anything remotely sexual.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Gyre posted:

I'm a woman. It's creepy because it's so spot on to stuff I've personally experienced.

Precisely, if it's stuff you've personally experienced the word I would use would be "natural" or "understandable" not "creepy" but I'm noticing how silly I'm being, saying what you should feel, lol, so forget it.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Hey Yume Tsukai translations ended! So I read the first three volumes of this series ageeees ago. from the author that later did the mediocre Mysterious Girlfriend X. Same super elaborate drawing style, but a much more interesting story. I remember from the first three volumes high content on lolis, magic, lesbians, some ecchi, witches, dreams but also drama, romance, and psychology in mystery plot.

This story featured:


Black Madonna
Eternal love
Order of Hermes
Alien civilization
Pansperma theory
Shamanism
Lost loved ones
Dreams

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

You actually sound like a creep, and a loser. So heads up.

Well, you sound like a very rude person who isn't capable to have a discussion about word meaning nor people disagreeing in some subjective matters so... uh... heads up?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



coathat posted:

Yall better be reading 87 Clockers. The latest chapter knocks it out of the park. http://bato.to/read/_/288978/87-clockers_v5_ch27_by_happyscans

I read time ago the first three chapters and said to myself "what the hell is the Nodame author doing??? the competitive world of overclocking?!!"

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Fabricated posted:

It's by the dude who did The World of Kai; all the dude's art is pretty much like that.

He picks the weirdest poo poo to do dramas about. Kai is about piano competitions.

the dude

NINOMIYA Tomoko (author of Nodame Cantabile, also author of a piano musician, Nodame)

You are confusing her with ISSHIKI Makoto, World of Kai author.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Dick Spacious CPA posted:

the dude who does the prison school manga likes to draw porn. i dont understand why everyone thinks he had to sell out and draw smut before he could continue his magnum opus or something

Yeah I heard the same as explanation as why he passed from one to the other, but later I saw his previous work before to Devil Blues was an ecchi series. So who knows.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



DisDisDis posted:



Is the new Jiro Matsumoto thing full of graphic rape like literally everything else he's ever done? If not, is it any good?

What new Jiro Matsumoto thing? Joshi Kouhei? It's the last work I see he has.
The tags are:
Anal Intercourse Nudity Pegging Psychopath/s Rape School Girl/s Sex Addict/s Sex Toy/s Sketchy Art Style Suicide/s

so I suppose you aren't going to like it!
I didn't like the shot story that it's the basis, so I don't have hopes for it to be good. I don't see how from that flimsy concept he got six volumes. Though I usually like his work, I liked everything except Wendy, Becchin to Mandara , and two or three short stories.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



TheFallenEvincar posted:



And I'm not even bothering to finish Shamo at this point. I'll get around to the disappointment of that eventually...

That's for the best, believe me.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Filament

From Yuki Urushibara, the author of Mushishi, we have the typical single volume that it really is a compilation of short stories done in her earlier years, unpublished before, and edited now thanks to her bigger notoriety.

quote:


Almost all of them have the ephemeral, mono no aware feeling that her style is so known for, of course. Several of them have ghosts or spirits themes, there is a pair of romantic ones, and it's finalized with two chapters that were the prototype for Mushishi. Curiously Ginko isn't the mc, but two other mushishis, one a kid, the other an older guy, and here the mushis are more literal insects, not insect-spirit things. And the setting is modern instead of feudal.

The older stories can be noticed by a less polished and more common drawing style. Apart from that, we can distinguish the longer, more worked on stories from the others, as several are very short, being just 3-7 pages, sometimes with an almost experimental tone.

Overall, I recommend it, even if it's a bit below Mushishi's level.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Nagai Michi

Welp, to find this manga I had to go deep, very deep on the net, as it was done by the now defunct Jmanga.com company.

This is a light and whimsical slice of life of the author of the very awarded The Town of Evening Calm; The Country of Cherry. It uses normal panelling but given how short the stories are (3-4 pages), they are actually very similar in pace and tone to a 4-koma manga, in fact it seems this was her first non 4-koma.
The story is a bit brainless/carefree but home-wifey woman who is "gifted" by his drunk father to a good for nothing man, and they chose to go with that strange arranged marriage. I think the most ephemeral//mono no aware moments, or the happy or sad moments are the best parts of the manga, while the humor can be sometimes funny, sometimes feel flat.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Ccs posted:

It'll be over in a few more chapters, so if you wait a bit longer you can read the whole thing in one go.

What I need to do at this point is to reread it. I did an hiatus with the series two years and I forgot a good deal of the plot. I'm kind of hyped to enjoy it again and this time from beginning to the end.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Ran and the Gray World

What a lovely manga!

It's funny, it's lovely, it has a sense of wonder, of magic (well, easier to do with a magical setting but still :P). It's fluffy, and dreamy, and beautiful. It's romantic, and sexy.



Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Leper Residue posted:

Ran and the gray world is probably in my top 10 favorite manga, creepy romance plot and all. It really does just have this sense of wonder to it that I haven't seen too much in other stuff.


I have to confess I usually like "impossible love" in fiction. I know it's just a trope, but if it's well executed, it really pumps up the romantic tone. I also liked Please Save my Earth end, for example, or the Koi Kaze manga.


Obviously just in fiction, in real life it would be loving creepy. I somehow distinguish between the two, they are total separate entities. I know other people aren't like that, from personal experience.

I suppose in truth I'm not that different of people who likes "gay couple" pure love stories, as part of that appeal is their 'forbidden love'.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



How is "Is Reiroukan Still Alive"?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011




Slang talk made it a bit hard to understand.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Teppu 32 is out. Second to last chapter?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Imperial Guards is pretty loving manly.

Imagine, if you may a XIX century-style war between fantasy Japan and fantasy Russia, in a world where there are dragons and sabre-toothed tigers, without our protagonist fighting in a desperate defensive war.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



RatHat posted:

drat, Freesia is really good. And a million times more coherent than Matsumoto Jiro's other works.

It's more a traditional story, in a sense, yeah.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



See you in Eden



An 3-chapters short story done by the author of Eternal Sabbath and Cesare. The art is a bit rough so possibly early in her career. It follows the life of a student in an art school, her efforts in finding art she like, her doubts and regrets, the pressure in the environment, in the teachers and peers, and in the reality that outside is rare to find a real work with art studies, etc. My first impression was " just passable". It doesn't have time to really expand on the issues or the characters. But in the end it makes a good still picture of a situation, a mood, in a very natural way. Good old coming-of-age bitterness.

Given the theme, it's possibly semi-autobiographical?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Sometimes Mellow

Fanservice done right.

Ok, ok, I will give you the good stuff.

A single volume with 8 stories, mostly little possible romances and sudden spark between man and woman, or some upbeat short story. From the author of "Is Reiroukan Still Alive?". Great drawing, very sensual women. It seems the author knows his forté is the drawing, and sometimes the dialogue is almost mute.
From the eight stories, I would say five are good, so overall decent but it could have been better.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Undercurrent



With the first pages, this started as the typical realist seinen manga, a boring real story of a totally mundane character in our boring real world. Exactly, it's about a woman whose husband went missing and she has to go on in her life while working in family business.
But the truth is that I found it pretty gripping, a story that is being opened bit a bit to mystery of the disappearance and what it really hides the two main characters in their past.
It express clearly and in a unpretentious way how horrible is this kind of situation, as she doesn't know if he left her for another woman, or he killed himself in a far away place, or he escaped outside the country, or had an freak accident, or what, so she has no closure at all. Looking at her mechanically gaze to newspaper suicide articles, and doubting about if she truly understood her couple is painful. But it isn't only full of angst, it has too a few humor moments that gives a needed levity and some SoL touches, and the plot advances eventually, with a decent resolution.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



NASA



What is this. The stories are straightforward and there is not big twists nor super-dramatic scenes. It's like the author isn't Naoki Urasawa!

Of course, being done in 1988, it seems the quirks which later would dominate his output weren't present in this single volume of short stories. The drawing also lacks his personal style, it's more in line of what was used at the end of the eighties in the seinen circles.

The first story is about some amateurs trying to do send a person to space. It ends strangely without any kind of resolution, it's like they were the first two chapters of a manga of that theme, one that Urasawa could never finish, so it put it here in this compilation.

The impression I have of the rest of the short stories is that... well, this isn't his strong point. Or maybe it's because this is a early work, but I found most of them are unremarkable. They are mostly quirky and readable, but nothing to recommend over other dozen of short stories. In special sometimes he tries to be funny but he didn't seem to have born as comedian.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



In seinen news, it seems the Crime & Punishment based manga is already finished and translated. Maybe I will start it next week.

Have anyone read it?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Koohii Jikan - (Coffee Time)


From the author of Undercurrent, single volume of short stories.
The first impression is that it isn't as good as Undercurrent, not every author has a strong grasp in how make short stories tick, as the page limit is hard. In this case, I feel that maybe the author Tetsuya Toyoda would be more comfortable doing half the stories with twice the pages, instead of doing so many, as there are 17 short stories. I think he is a bit too subtle for doing really short stories, you need more oomph to reach the readers in just 12 pages.
That said he isn't bad or mediocre here, there are several that are decent and two or three that are good. NASA's Urasawa was worse, for example.

In some panels the drawing style really blends with Hiroki Endo's in my mind. Are we sure they haven't worked together? Because drat.
Actually, I think Toyoda does better faces, or at least more variety of them and they feel a bit more natural.

The common theme of the stories is coffee, as the title suggests, but that's the theory, honestly in most of the stories it isn't a real thing, it's just that the author thought it would be fun to have some kind of common element in all of them and put it there.
There is at least some variety in here. Some are bittersweet moments, others are more funny, others are slightly surreal.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Have anyone read 'The World is Mine'? Opinions?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



That Works posted:

I'm halfway through it now. Please don't spoil the ending!

It's... interesting? Really hosed up stuff going on though, makes it a bit difficult to read but I think that's the point in a lot of ways. Not sure yet how much I like it but the mystery / paranormal element to it is really captivating so far.

I asked before starting it to adjust my expectations, I just read the first.. 30 pages or so. So no spoils from me.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Mike Takashi to direct live action adaptation of 'Blade of Immortal' manga

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Serious Frolicking posted:

Kid uses magic to become an adult, adult man falls in love with her.

I thought the elephant on the room would be all the drama and tragedy there is once it reaches a certain point. The mood really switches gears there, more than with the romance. You can't say that is quaint and charming and funny anymore.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Serious Frolicking posted:

Uh, lots of stories have drama and tragedy.

Uh? I didn't see it was something unique.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou (end)



This famous sci-fi slice of life seinen is about the calm, relaxed life of Alpha, an humanoid robot that own a little cafe place. It promised comfiness, relaxedness, a easy-going style and mono no aware attitude and it delivered as hell in that regard.

The protagonist is incredibly charming in her relaxed, happy-going but innocent personality, and it will touch your heart easily. The other characters are also good, as here everyone is nice and the calm atmosphere of the entire setting permeates every person here.

One of the main pillars of the manga is the drawing, I don't think the author would have got the atmosphere and feelings he stirs up within it without this drawing. It's a mix of a simple style for characters, which underlines their gentleness, and a more detailed work that it may seem at first for the landscape. He is so good with the lush vegetation, with the lone roads, and playing with shadows, light and darkness, using great skill with the ink.

Of course, you better not think one minute of time in the logic of the setting, as it doesn't hold up any kind of scrutiny. It's the story of the end of times, about human extinction, but it isn't very clear why there are so few humans and why they aren't reproducing more (it seems they are less and less are years go by), and even with all that they still get electricity, fuel, etc. Just... /handwaves oh look at this poignant scene done with the sunset on the background! ohh!
Don't misunderstand me, this isn't a true flaw of the story, and it's pretty clear it never intended to build a realistic or deep setting, the author uses it as a pure mood setter.

As good as it is, it actually goes a bit longer than it should. All the poignant scenes and themes and happy moments and moments of solitude could have done in say, 10 or 11 volumes, but it goes up to 14, and in the last volumes it shows a bit, as at that point you can notice a bit of repetition.

It's also a not very ambitious story. It's clearly a episodic SoL story from the beginning, but around the middle of it there are opportunities in the characters and in the plot that could have used to have a more intense character growth or expand the setting or spice up a bit more the story, but the author shows a headstrong intention into just doing his mono no aware thing where nothing happens, despite it's that very same author who does the teasing about what could have been. In fact at times I supposed it was all going in a certain direction that would reveal itself near the end of the series, but nope.
Drama? Nope. For example it could have underlined more the theme of passage of time and Yuri's unique position in it (and the theme of humanity final fate) with the death of one of the two elders, in addition of adding a bit of drama in there for a pair of chapters, but even if a dozen of years pass in the manga it never happens. It could have finished with Alpha all alone in a abandoned place or having to leave the café forever or something like that, but it doesn't dares to go for the gut punch.
Romance? Nope, not for the protagonist, not for the other robots, not for the other humans. Well at the end Takahiro and Makki are together and have a child but it happens totally offscreen. Oh, and I didn't liked Takahiro never visits her since he left, not even at the end, even if they tease about it several times, with Alpha asking for him repeated times and gramps saying he was going to.
Origin story? Nope. The manga teases you about the backstory of the robot's creation and their function (like the disc they found about the first series, or how the doc was involved in their creation), and the meaning of the giant plane that also have a Alpha series robot in it and their mission, and how Alpha is strangely tuned for flying which I suspected it was related, but nothing.
And obviously nothing about the setting itself, the owner or whatever.

It does very well the episodic mono no aware thing, but I think it could have done that and in addition something even more meaningful and poignant, but it chooses not to.

Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Oct 17, 2015

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Jose posted:

you recommended a manga then wrote huge walls of text most of it behind spoilers rather than sell anyone on it

Less than 50% isn't "most of it".

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Four varied short stories, none of them were good, so just one line impressions:

Twisted.
It tries to do to much (mid life crisis story, ghost that posses the mc story) in just 32 pages, and it fails. Dialog specially feels stilted.

Kingdom of Stars.
Pseudo-high school romance story of a guy whose girl he always liked happens to be into a weird religion/cult. It basically ends before going anywhere. At least it has a pair of funny moments


Loop
A ghost trapped in a loop of having to revive the night of his murder, until he can solve his regrets. Which doesn't sound that bad as stories go, but it fell into a mediocre execution for me.

Cruel Fairy tales.
Not technically seinen, but whatever, as what I wanted to say it also wasn't good. It has some interesting ideas: missing siblings, obsessed serial killers, family tragedy, twist at the end, but it's told as an uninteresting mess. Pity, Yuki Kaori can do better.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Hotel Harbour View



As some of you may recognize, Jiro Tanaguchi is behind the pencils, though the writer it's another mangaka. The drawing is good and detailed but a bit stiff, the characters all feel a bit staged, which is explained as this was published in 1983, being one of his earlier works.

It's a two short stories set, both joined by a character and a strong hard boiled noir style. In fact in the first story, about a man that knows a hit is coming on his head while being in Hong Kong, that was my main problem, the hard boiled flair was so hard that falls into parody. For example

Thanks god that was only a bad first impression, a bit of patience and one can see it all made sense. I really didn't expect that twist!

The second story is more straightforward, but still good in its honest noir, about past lovers fated to cross bullets. Very classic, you could say.



---
Heh, I think I wishlisted Golden Kamui, just seeing this cool cover

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Fellis posted:

Can anyone remember some collection of short stories where one was a guy who got a book from the future, full of pictures of girls he could date instead of his lovely girlfriend. Then when he goes to break up with her, he decides not to spontaneously and the picture book was all pictures of her at various stages of life after they got married

E:whoops meant to post this in surreal daily life thread

I read that, I remember the twist at the end, in fact. But hell if I can remember the title.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Fellis posted:

It is here:

Oh, that one. That means that knowing I had read it before, I should have linked to my MU list and see if any of the names ringed a bell for you.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply