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Bardlebee posted:Quote from other thread: Perfect Soul is the Zenith. She Exalted when she smashed a statue of the Unconquered Sun in a rage, and the Unconquered Sun knew what it felt like to be betrayed, so he made her one of his Chosen. She's the heir of the Amirate of Jiara, and is fighting against Mnemon to throw off the yoke of the Realm. Prince Diamond is the Eclipse. He's a Dereth of the Delzahn, and in our context would be a trans man. He's on a far ride, a Delzahn custom where you take on the sins of a family member and exile yourself for them. The exile lasts until one's death, and many far riders seek to die well and heroically - Prince Diamond has seen Perfect Soul's cause as something worth dying for. Shen is a martial arts sorcerer, and apparently still an agent of House Iselsi, which means that he's working for the Realm while working to overthrow Mnemon. It's suggested that Novia Claro, the Night Caste of the group, might be smart enough to suss out what Shen is all about, which deeply concerns him. I don't know much about the others, if anything has been put out.
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mistaya posted:The location of your Manse being a secret is a huge security feature for it, kind of hard to have a secret base when you have 6 teams of workers on it for six months. Genghis Khan figured out a way with his tomb. You're an Exalt, get your atrocities started early.
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Kai Tave posted:Personally I'd like to see Mantis to get a little more traditional animal style all up ins but no, it looks like people really want to turn into goddamn seahorse monsters so. I was sort of hoping that we'd get a thematic five for the corebook: Tiger, Bull, Spider, Wolf, and Falcon, to cover the sobriquets of the Solar castes, and also add more animal styles than just the obvious Chinese-flavored ones. Then add a few more, like Righteous Devil and such. Obviously that requires them to write-up four entirely new martial art styles instead of just translating from earlier editions, but I never said I was reasonable about my hopes.
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Jun 2, 2013 03:07
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And I'm sure there's a kind of rear end in a top hat demon that can be summoned by certain resurrection rituals and the like, coming to Creation in the shape of the deceased person and confusing everything for everyone. Seems like the sort of thing that would exist.
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Jun 2, 2013 17:09
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QuintessenceX posted:Man, you and I don't have the same tastes at all. I dug alot of the Ink Monkeys poo poo and so far I've really enjoyed most of the books put out by the new group. Who is Neph, just out of curiosity? Michael Goodwin. He worked on the Alchemicals (1e), Abyssals (Both), and Infernals (2e), I believe. Other things too, I'm sure, but that's what I recall most distinctly. As far as I know, he's a very controversial author, with a lot of people having strong feelings one way or the other about his work. Or at least a few very loud people. Since I don't really have a dog in the race of any of the Exalts he wrote for, I don't have much of an opinion on him myself. I do very much like the work the Ink Monkeys have done so far, though. With one glaring exception, obviously.
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Jun 6, 2013 05:33
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QuintessenceX posted:Why isn't he around anymore? He seems like he had a good run then. Admittedly 2E Abyssals were boring as poo poo, but Infernals had some excellent charm/crunch. No idea. I mean, if my mechanics turned up in the same book as the Lillun comic (and concept), I'd sure as poo poo bail out of the entire thing immediately, but I don't have an official story beyond the fact that he bowed out sometime last year, I think.
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Jun 6, 2013 06:15
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QuintessenceX posted:It's possible that other people won't come to the same conclusion as you, or think in such an objective fashion. An apology means less to some people if the apology is being done while in the middle of a huge drive for funding. If the apology is given when there's not an immediate ask involved, it might strike some as more sincere. It's not that this is wrong or right, it's just his take on it. His statement basically amounts to "If I apologize now it might not be sincere enough. I want to wait." Apologies aren't dailies. He can apologize now, and then apologize later. Nothing is stopping him from doing that. A quick apology like Ferrinus suggested, with the note, "I want to explain myself in depth later, after the kickstarter is over, to show that my contrition isn't just huge bullshit." And then he does that.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:48
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Bedlamdan posted:Will an apology really be taken as anything other than intentional obfuscation before secretly doubling down on rape ghosts? If it's an actual apology, I'm willing to actually listen. This thread sure as poo poo jumped at the chance to give Holden another chance, with just a few outliers. The people in this thread, save for maybe a handful, clearly want to really like Ex3 and the people writing it. I think if the apology is sincere and actually contrite, forgiveness would be quick to follow. At this point? Maybe it won't work, because they've already gone back and forth on the subject. But an apology absolutely could have worked, and I feel still would to a great degree.
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Jun 6, 2013 19:59
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An example of combat, that Legionnaire of Silence vs. One Hundred Bandits battle they were talking about before, all of the Tyrant Lizard vs. Heroic Mortal battles they were talking up, they could bash together anything they wanted to give a mechanical preview, with the huge "This Is An Unfinished Draft" tag on it all. There's no excuse for barely no actual mechanics to be put out by now, especially since they specifically spoke (pre-kickstarter) of wanting backers to know a lot about the product they were backing before the kickstarter was over. We should not have to piece together whether Ex3 has the mechanical rigor they keep saying it will, with spit and bubblegum, out of the small snippets of actual information they deign to release.
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Jun 7, 2013 02:55
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Yeah, I hate the idea of Exalted as the 'ten thousand bear-men fighting eighty thousand dragons' game. I know that it's moved on from it, but I like the original canonical idea that everything is (eventually) doomed, heroes are deeply flawed as personalities, and fighting and winning against a dozen Brides of Ahlat is an impressive and heroic feat, even if you're a Solar. As much as I've been down on Ex3 recently, the idea that a Solar would be sweating against several Legionnaires of Silence made me pretty happy.
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Jun 7, 2013 19:57
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Thesaurasaurus posted:Two and three are cool, but as for everything being doomed - why? We already have Call of Chthulhu, Delta Green, Paranoia, WFRP, a half-dozen variants of WH40K RP, the Dark Sun campaign setting, World of Darkness (both Old and New), and I don't even know what else to fill all your pessimistic RP needs. Why do we need yet another setting where everything's hosed and you're just there to watch the pretty colors as the world burns? Because my favorite settings are worlds like Dying Earth and Polaris. It's not pessimism, not for me, anyway. It's very hopeful, in my eyes. Things are going to go to poo poo. In ten years, fifty years, a hundred years, a millennium, eventually the world is going to go to hell. You hold out against the terrible things for as long as you can, and give people a better life for as long as you can, until eventually you can't anymore. You've still made things much better for the five hundred million plus people of Creation. The end doesn't have to come within the game itself, or even in the foreseeable future. But everything is temporary, and that includes whatever wonderful society you've built up. I suppose in some ways it derives from my spiritual beliefs, as well. The beauty of transience, the bittersweet appeal that something can't be forever, that everything eventually ends. There will never be another place like the kingdom or republic or whatever you carve out in Creation, and at the end of everything your castles will be buried by sand and nobody alive will remember that for one shining moment, everything was better than it had been before. But for the thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands you helped protect and empower, you were the most glorious creature to have ever existed, even if none of those people have been alive for ten thousand years. There's this old story about Xenophon's anabasis, his escape back to Greece after being caught far south from his homelands. And during this retreat, he comes across this old, massive city. Huge walls, towering over his army, thicker than anything he'd ever seen before. It was Ninevah, the capital of the Assyrian Empire, but he didn't know that. So he asked local tribesmen what city this was, and who had once lived there, and none of them could recall the names. This was less than a hundred years after Ninevah had fallen. That story always sticks with me, and it informs my storytelling. So yeah. That's why, at least personally, I like the sense that everything is (eventually) doomed.
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Jun 7, 2013 23:35
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Mendrian posted:I like it a lot. I think it underscores the 'kitchen sink' aesthetic of Creation. You can have pretty much any sort of dress, somewhere. That's all well and good, but I'm not buying that sort of outfit on Strawmaiden Janest, from all we know of her. That's not a farmer's outfit, much less a farmer-warrior who is taken by priests and augurs to be a badass farmer and warrior. I'd be completely fine with it on someone else. This is the character with a body "toned and hardened by a life in the fields", which just doesn't go with the costume. Nonetheless, it's a very, very cool image.
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Jun 8, 2013 17:49
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mistaya posted:Ever read a Little House book? Women wore skirts, still busted rear end on the farm. Yup, you're right, I shouldn't have said 'that's not a farmer's outfit', because I definitely didn't mean it that way. Women in basically every situation in the world wore whatever the hell women wore at that time and place, and still busted their rear end on the farm. Still doesn't feel right for a warrior-cultist of a harvest god in a world meant more to evoke antiquity and not the Dust Bowl to be wearing that. Just an aesthetic feeling.
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Jun 8, 2013 18:03
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Excelsiortothemax posted:No no, you see, pants. Pants all the time. No silly dresses. Just pants. Well, I was thinking more in the style of what Ernalda is depicted as wearing in King of Dragon Pass (maybe sans the big cape).  It was actually sort of how I was envisioning Strawmaiden Janest the whole time, so I wasn't going to be completely satisfied with the actual art anyway.
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Jun 8, 2013 18:12
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Dammit Who? posted:The White Wolf forums have decided again that Asskicker Dorothy is terrible, and have also concluded that she loses all her powers if she ever leaves that field. I dunno if you guys have noticed this, but those are some stupid motherfuckers. If a strawmaiden defending her fields - empowered by her God and the Unconquered Sun, with a great and mighty god-scythe and a pure heart - is able to fight against desperate odds and come out victorious against a Fair Folk raid, it ruins Exalted forever.
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Jun 9, 2013 01:42
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Ferrinus posted:Not at all. It's only ruined forever if a Solar Exalt in the same position couldn't achieve the same victory at least minutely more efficaciously. Now, imagine yourself chuckling politely at my apparent joke but quieting nervously as you notice my intense and unblinking stare. That was actually one of the weirdest disconnects when I read that thread, because there were people who were like, "If a new Solar took on that horde, they would be wiped out." And it stunned me, because I sort of imagined that 'held off a Fair Folk raid' was a hell of a story for an Exaltation. Dragon-Blooded, Lunar, Solar, Exigent, whatever. That seems like one of the most basic 'this is why I was Chosen' stories you can tell. And yes, the Solar can do it for one mote less.
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Jun 9, 2013 01:49
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Stephenls posted:Next six months are really interesting. Now that's definitely a situation that a wandering group of god-heroes might come upon and think, "Let's stop here and kill some raksha with this totally cool Chosen of the Harvest." Somewhat better than tripping over her corpse and seeing a hollowed-out village and going, "Well, nothing to do here."
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Jun 9, 2013 01:52
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Stephenls posted:To be fair, when I say "to be fair" sometimes I do not mean to be fair. To be fair, 'to be fair' just means to be impartial and honest. You can clarify, and then also say that yes, they are still idiots, despite all evidence in their favor being presented. In fact, this might be being the most fair.
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Jun 9, 2013 02:15
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Heart Attacks posted:Janest's scythe makes me think that her field god spent too much time playing WoW. This is why Ten Sheaves died when he did his Exaltation thing with Janest. If he had chosen a more active hobby, he would have undoubtedly been able to create a Chosen of the Harvest without cacking it from exhaustion.
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Jun 9, 2013 08:02
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Kai Tave posted:Honestly, I think it'd be quicker to list the artifact weapons that have been illustrated throughout Exalted's existence that don't look kinda dumb. That's something I don't think anyone has ever really nailed, in my opinion. 1) The wavecleaver daiklave at the end of Savage Seas. Still far and away my favorite depiction of an artifact weapon in the entire line, by a far margin. 2) Done. 3) Okay, the Foe-Clearing Halberd from Wonders of the Lost Age looked alright. BryanChavez fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Jun 9, 2013 |
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Stephenls posted:I acknowledge your aesthetic tastes differ from mine. Your aesthetic tastes differ from all right-thinking men and women. Now go to your team and demand that all grand daiklaives look like Guts' Dragonslayer in penance.
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Jun 9, 2013 19:58
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Volfer's sword more resembles a piece of candy than a weapon. It's been corrupted by a demon. There are demons of lots of different things. It's not just darkness and blood and skin-flaying wind. Maybe some Defining Soul once represented Yummy Sweets, before Volfer's previous incarnation hacked it to pieces in a Limit Break-inspired hunger for candy.
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Jun 9, 2013 21:04
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carborexic posted:Yeah, that can't be right. At the end of the day equipment shouldn't matter that much unless it's significant to the story. Well, that's not the kind of game that Exalted is, as suggested by the expanded list of weapon keywords in Ex3. If I were to make a guess, in Ex3, fists and feet are Light weapons that deal Bashing damage, and would have keywords that relate to grappling and building up Heat a bit faster than other weapons might. Which would make sense. But if there's not a merit that represents the fact that I hit a wooden pole for twenty years until my legs and fists have become like unto a thing of iron, then gently caress this game forever.
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Jun 9, 2013 21:45
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Stephenls posted:Exalted provides methods by which unarmed people might become highly effective combatants, but all else being equal, in a conflict between a tool-specialist and an unarmed specialist, the tool-specialist will be at an advantage when his tools are at hand, and the unarmed specialist will be at an advantage when the tools are unavailable. I'm interested to see how you're handling Craftsman Needs No Tools in the new edition, then. If it still exists, that is.
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Jun 9, 2013 21:55
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Bedlamdan posted:EDIT: Actually, realtalk. I realize that the whole haunting and seduction joke is funny, but it's starting to get more than a little tasteless to bring up the "rapeghosts" constantly. Especially for the sake of wacky humor. Realtalk: The people who added rape charms to the game and aggressively defended them (and have still not put up the promised post-kickstarter apology, for that matter) are the ones who are tasteless, not the people who are making fun of them for doing that.
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Bedlamdan posted:Well, then we'll enjoy our ironic rape-jokes, because this is how we show that rape is not a laughing matter. Point out the irony, please. Instead of the things that were actually said. It was not a rape-joke, it was a joke about people who included rape charms in a game. Rape is not a laughing matter. Stupid fuckers who include rape charms in a preview for a new edition of a game, and then doggedly defend them on an internet forum, are totally a laughing matter. BryanChavez fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 00:06
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gently caress no, I wouldn't do that. That's the developers of Exalted 3e's job.
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Skeletons are played out. If I can't play a Draugr as an Abyssal Exalt, then the developers have failed in their job. This includes blanket immunity to everything but stripping down to the waist and wrasslin' me.
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Sep 19, 2013 00:20
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I feel that it was completely intentional, that they knew what sort of poo poo they were stirring, and I'm also 95% sure that Holden was (poorly and offensively) arguing for John Morke's decision. Morke has made it perfectly clear on the official Exalted forum that he likes testing people by specifically choosing which information he's going to release, so that he can watch the reaction. The Lady charms was just another example of that. I'm not sure what information he got from it, save that there aren't enough people who care to worry about their opinion, so he's just going to go on ahead with the offensive bullshit. While Holden's opinion and position changed (and re-changed, and re-changed...), I didn't see anything like that from Morke, and he's the top dog on this.
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Sep 22, 2013 02:30
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It's basically an argument between being a lovely person, or being a lovely person who's also stupid. From what I've seen of Morke, it's the former, but there's no real reason to believe it can't be the latter - I'm just guessing from my brief interactions with him, along with what I've seen from his interactions with other. Holden is obviously both, that's not really a subject for debate.
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Sep 22, 2013 02:55
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Stephenls posted:So looking forward to this being out so people can judge it on content. Come on now. As Ferrinus humorously suggests, you guys have really brought that problem on yourselves with your dearth of actually giving us anything concrete about the content in question. And as I will suggest now, how I judge the content of your book means less than nothing about how I judge the content of the character of the people writing it.
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Sep 22, 2013 03:34
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So, CM Punk is obviously a Zenith Caste, I think we all know that. I feel that Danielson is our violent, brutal Dawn, and El Generico is our mysterious and flippy as gently caress Night. I'd want Colt Cabana, given his podcast and general appearance of being a friendly, amiable and fun-loving guy, to be our Eclipse. I'm stuck on who takes the Twilight slot, here, though.
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Sep 22, 2013 06:19
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Bosushi! posted:I once made a groggy as hell post in the Greg Stolze thread about how CM Punk actively tried to ascend to the Statosphere on Monday Night Raw. I regretted it a little while later. The Pipe Bomb is absolutely an Avatar and you were entirely correct in your summation, you have nothing to regret. And I feel that if we give the Abyssal slot to Stone Cold and Vinnie Mac, we're not going to have any room for the Ministry of Darkness.
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Sep 22, 2013 16:06
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If this tells us anything, it's that Ex3 needs to make sure that a renegade Abyssal can overcome a Deathlord on their own, utilizing the Resplendent Stone Cold Stunner. Otherwise, the system is a disgusting failure.
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Sep 22, 2013 17:42
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You missed something that sang out to me: Combat Movement being rendered in dice form. That should be interesting to find out more about. Also, all Exalts start at Essence 1, no matter the edition. It's why there are some charms with Minimum Essence 1. It's just that the game assumes you have a few months of seasoning under your belt. I assume it's the same case here. Though it'd be interesting if they did move things down to Essence 1 to start with. As long as Sorcery isn't behind an Essence wall. BryanChavez fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Oct 24, 2013 |
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Oct 24, 2013 23:00
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Heart Attacks posted:Can you source that? I'm pretty sure in 2e, when you Exalt, your Essence goes to 2, doesn't it? Exalted 1e corebook, pg. 147: "Solars fresh from their Exaltation and most normal mortals have Essence scores of one. Normal mortals almost never rise above Essence 1, but most Exalted quickly master their internal Essence, rising to Essence 2 or 3." I assumed the same was the case for Exalted 2e, but I'm clearly full of poo poo, or read it in something other than the core, as the core makes it clearly that newly-exalted Solars are Essence 2.
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Oct 25, 2013 05:54
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Eh. The quick NPC rules look robust enough to make both unimportant and important NPCs, and since neither myself nor my players make any distinction between the two, I'm probably just going to be using it for every character. I don't know if a character is important until they end up being so, and I don't know how long they'll stay important once they achieve that status. There's no time to be playing Schrodinger's NPC with every character that shows up in my games.
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Oct 28, 2013 18:21
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The absolute most baffling thing I've ever seen in my entire life, no exaggeration or hyperbole at all, is when one of the developers explained that the reason for being so tight-lipped about previews is to maintain the sense of surprise of reading the new edition of the game. Because I know that what I want above all from Exalted is it surprising me. That's worked out well so far.
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Oct 29, 2013 04:35
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With their Momentum rules, it wouldn't even be difficult to implement rules to do that. Make it much less efficient and/or risky to build up Momentum on someone that's already getting Momentum built up by someone else. Or however that's supposed to work, it'd be really great to know. I might be assuming that the rules are way better than they are, and I'm growing increasingly concerned about this.
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I can very much understand the sense of wonder that comes from experiencing something in its wholeness for the first time. I just recently listened to Anais Mitchell's Hadestown, and I was lost in it for days. The first time I saw Jesus Christ Superstar in the theater, I was overwhelmed. Obviously, for me, aural experiences are more capable of doing this than anything. To see something in all its grandeur, taking it all in at once, can be a very amazing experience. I'm not denying that, in any way, shape, or form. But these are loving game mechanics, not my first visit to the Louvre. I don't care about the experience. I care if they work.
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