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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nubile Hillock posted:

Figured. Unless it's like an acoustic-electric I don't see why it matters at all. I re-did my buddy's "Maple" guitar once, and it turns out it was 2mm veneer over particle board (after I got like 3mm of epoxy coating/plastic "paint" off)
It does kinda matter, in that heavier and harder materials won't dampen the vibrations of the strings. Anyone that tells you they can tell the difference between alder and maple is fooling themselves, but if you make a guitar out of balsa it's going to sound like poo poo. As long as the material is heavy enough it'll work just fine; a block of solid bronze would work great as an electric guitar body.

It matters more if you have an old guitar with overly microphonic pickups because they'll pick up more than just string vibrations, they'll also sound like poo poo no matter what though.

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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i made a guitar thread once in musicians lounge, it was pretty sweet

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

And any derivation of that ugly piece of poo poo.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GreatGreen posted:

Yeah, for $6,000 you can get just about any of the best luthiers in the world to build you your dream guitar with exact customization on basically every possible customizable part.

For $3,500-$5,000 you can buy a top-of-the-line production guitar from basically any of the best guitar companies in the world, any of which would laugh the best most expensive Gibson you can find these days out of the building.

Gibson's prices are ludicrous by basically any measurable degree.
The Heritage is run by old Gibson employees that refused to move to Nashville and they still build their guitars in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo Michigan. Much better than Gibson, and much cheaper.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

man thats gross posted:

it takes a classy man to admit when he was wrong, but WOW, was i wrong

i mean your attack and sustain are just incredible, i can def. tell which wood you're using, it's the good wood for sure

and you can really tell that whichever of the twenty almost identical guitars you chose for this song was the exact right one because the tone is the correct tone

i mean u just cant get that particular tone from one of the other guitars, it had to be the one u used

i see that now

thank u
i really like the dental drill sound he's got going there. it reminds of my root canal.


i loved that root canal.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GreatGreen posted:

13 count em 13 strings. Gosh just think of how heavy the metal coming out of that sweet axe could be.
that's nothing, this guitar has 47 strings

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

White Dog Eggs posted:

WOOD IS MAGIC.
It's amusing that people believe they can hear the tone wood through the pickups when nobody can even do that with acoustic instruments. Hell, professional violinists can't tell the difference between a stradivarius and a brand new violin.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

KiddieGrinder posted:

should I get some really expensive Monster cables to really let the tone and warmth of my guitar(wood) to come through?
No, but guitars are one of the only audio hardware applications where good cables actually do matter because guitar cables are unbalanced and subject to a lot of EM interference.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

iostream.h posted:

Meh to a degree, but for the most part 'good' cables means 'don't buy the $1.99 ones next to the register at Guitar Center'.
Really depends on the length of cable. Also interference adds up and a leaky guitar + amp + lovely 50 ft cable + dirty AC will noticeably sound like poo poo to the audience.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

iostream.h posted:


your move cable plebs
That's really expensive dude

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Unpopular opinion time.

There is no reason for hollow body electrics to exist other than tradition. The more lightweight the guitar, the less sustain and clarity you're going to get into the pickups. The sound box does nothing whatsoever. This is the reason that hollow body electrics weigh just about as much as solid bodies... if they were actually trying to take advantage of the sound box and just made an acoustic with pickups the guitar would sound like dogshit.

If you buy a hollow body electric you're paying for appearance alone. And that makes you a poser.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Declan MacManus posted:

I like feedback and 335s are comfortable also you are a jealous hater
Well yeah there's the constant accidental feedback if you point it the wrong direction, I guess that's one...feature. Dampened sound is another if you want that mellow sound.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

skander posted:

Enormous seriouspost, sorry:

Exactly the same phenomenon, and also not worthy including in your imaginary attack. People posted a guitar they consider to be ugly, that happens to be owned by you. You were not mentioned at all. This is not mocking you personally in any way at all.

And any ridicule did not come here, until you brought it. It was 'here an ugly guitar.' Some people agreed; you were not mentioned.
SO WHAT? Nobody mentioned your name in this thread until you brought it up, as far as I remember. Initially, the attacks were specifically directed toward your guitars, and only toward your guitars, not your person. You were not mentioned, you brought it up. Whoever mentioned the Streisand Effect had it dead on.

Don't you realize that you guys were baiting you, and you completely fell for it? Hell, if I was younger, I might have joined in.

You did not call it correctly, nobody attacked you.

You need to work on your social perceptions. I'm not loving with you here in the least, but I am bluntly addressing some psychological issues.

(That's just how I do this kind of thing, bluntly. You might hate that, all lot of people do, and a lot of people don't. (If my elderly mother lives through the weekend, she's going to get really big dose of 'I told you so, you should have gone in to the ER two days ago, before you came immobile and covered in vomit' She knows it, she knows I'm right, and she'll accept it.)

Sorry for the long-winded example with personal examples, but I'm trying to show how trivial your concerns about your guitar's appearance, relative to some other people's problems. I'd rather use somebody else's examples, but I don't know any.

You really shouldn't give a rat's rear end about people having negative opinions of the appearance of your possessions. I've had much worse trouble from people about much worse things, and been able to blow them off in a way that you seem to not even comprehend is possible.

Example 9sorry for another totally self-centered story: I have an overactive urinary system, and the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom for the fourth time one afternoon when I was nine or ten. Go ahead and guess what happened. One person made a rhyme with my name, referring to the incident, and was still at it at the twenty-year high school reunion. I never responded, and actually never cared about, because she's none too bright, and not important in the least.

And you're complaining about people you don't even know, who are calling your guitars ugly. Those people don't matter at all. And if you'd kept your mouth shut, nothing would have happened.

Yes, but not in the way that you imagine. It indicates that you don't understand the situation in the least.

Again, I'm not trying to be an rear end in a top hat here, I'm not making fun of you, but you really don't understand in the least what's happening. That's why you're being mocked, it's your reactions, not your guitars. Even if people started mocking you without your being here, you did not have to respond.

My apologies everybody, for the boring wall of text, but I'm seriously trying to help him (just this once).

And Dr. Faustus, if you have interest in taking this to messages or something, please contact me. Otherwise, I'll just be shaking my head sadly about the extent of your reactions to something not important in the least.

skander posted:

I'm just over 50.

Why do people quote huge walls of text?
Why do people write them?

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dr. Faustus posted:

LOL, or not!
Level off your highs, they make your guitar sound like an ice pick.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Ah yes, the sport of guitar playing. I give it a 6.5, good speed, technique is decent, but there are many errors throughout. I wonder if he'd be good at music though.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

King Vidiot posted:

The soundholes project an additional "echo" of the PA sound

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
widdly widdly widdly widdly widdly widdly widdly widdly WIDDLY WIDDLY WIDDLY WIDDLY WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i am make music

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

stratdax posted:

I go out to dinner for five hours and look what you assholes do.


that's just a wall decoration, so it doesn't belong in the thread

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Harry in Rio posted:



what i pretty much play - the sg is just so much fun to play, i know, i know, 3 humbuckers. this is the ugly guitar thread.



i love ouds. i really, really love ouds.



and this where i belong when i'm not tending livestock, or dealing with the other myriads of poo poo in life... i love recording and i do it almost daily. sometimes i'll just record a cello piece or some stupid guitar stuff for a friend doing a youtube video - but pushing 50, hey, i'm loving happy, happier than i have ever been in life.
oh look a cellobass. i bet the person who made that thought "this is going to sound awesome" because of cello acoustics or some dumb poo poo.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fonzarelli posted:

can somebody explain how i can best insure that I turn into a cool old guy guitarist and not a pathetic middle aged guitar nerd? its important to me
impossible. quit guitar and pick up a classical instrument now and get into a major orchestra in 15 years and you might save face.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Captain Tolerable posted:

i want a guitar that's comprised entirely of knobs

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dr. Faustus posted:

I know, it's really weird, isn't it? Go count how many times my Seafoam Green JEM was quoted after Captain Capslock posted it on page one, or page two, or how Ulgar posted my collection pic on page two.

Funny how you'd feel singled out under circumstances like those, but hey they handed me the keys to the thread.
if you spent as much time learning music appreciation and theory every day as you have bitching in this thread you might be a decent musician

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dr. Faustus posted:

I took music "preesh" back in 1988. I learned everything from African Poly rhythms to Musique Concrete and I am just a product of the guitarists who were doing huge things when I was 16. Maybe I'll never be a decent musician, but I like a lot of the songs I've played on, and I have loved a lot of the gigs I've played, and I will be God Damned before I let you or anyone else judge me in an Ugly Guitar thread.

Keep on truckin' haters.
everything from african poly rhythms to musique concrete eh. fancy that lizzy.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
edit: nevermind, i don't like being an internet bully

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

stratdax posted:

So here's another:


that's not real

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dr. Faustus posted:

Probably because most guys my age wouldn't learn a scale or do anything beyond aping Boston or Marshall Tucker Band or whatever. Anything more ambitious than that was too "pretentious."

O thanks.

I don't tell my bandmates what to play. I agree with his decisions on the keyboards. They were meant to be thick and full. If you don't like them, that's your prerogative.

Dr. Faustus posted:

You would know the answer to this better than I would. Answer you own question.
GOD DAMNIT dude. This thread is not going to get better for you, people will stop talking about you if you just go do something else. Post in some other threads, get some food, watch some porn, whatever. I guarantee you'll feel better if you just pretend you never posted here.

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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

stratdax posted:

Here's one for when you get hungry midway through your gig!

if they made one with california rolls i'd totally get it

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