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This is a wonderful LP - I love the different styles! Looks like my Islamic poetry LP will be delayed for another year.... It'd look terrible compared to this!
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2014 16:36 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 10:23 |
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Ofaloaf posted:Look, you might unhelpfully call them traitors, I call them a potential source of vast amounts of manpower we could tap into if we just accepted the Bishop of Rome as head of the Church. Icon(cur). Let those determined to be schismatics continue their quest to leave the church of Christ weak to invaders! The followers of the goon mod stand over the ruins of our holy places! It is time to end our petty squabble. First among equals!
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2014 16:23 |
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sniper4625 posted:Thanks! Graphical work is one of the things I like most about legislative LPs. Happy to work with any other would-be splitters. Love it. Definitely signing up officially to this radical, brave and above all honest faction of the senate.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 20:24 |
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Learned and esteemed senators, friends all, though you may mock us, we too are devastated by the current turn of events. But is there not blame to be heaped upon ourselves? In turning to idolatry have we not asked calamity to befall us? Our priests, charlatans as they are have turned away from the face of the right hand of god and his shield, the very phalanx that protects the emperor, has been withdrawn and a mark of punishment - the very mark of Cain himself! - has been branded into the noble brow of the Kommenos. Our obstinate, mule headed stubbornness has brought this fate upon us! The Turk and bulgar, the doux and regents, the fires of all pervading hell - and for what? For the simple arrogance of proclaiming that the protector of all Christendom, Christ's representative on earth, is no more than a patriarch! Fie upon you all! Would you see this empire crumble and fa for the sake of misbegotten pride? What churls, what villains you 'August' men of the senate are. And when the theodesian walls can no longer protect us from the Turk? When the bulgar laughs in our groves and takes our women? To who then shall ye mighty Byzantines turn? To those members sitting here today fawning over our noble rulers? To the money lenders? To those hankering for a 'new' Byzantium? No! You will turn, as you must, to the frank, to the German, to the successor of Peter! And as the streets run red with imperial blood, you will look up and whisper 'save us' and the Pope will say 'No!'
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 23:48 |
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forkis posted:
I back this wholeheartedly. A string Jerusalem is a spear in the heart of the infidel turcoman. That our lands continue to suffer under their rule is more than an insult - it is a damning inditement of the schism that has divided Christianity for too long.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 11:04 |
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Tevery Best posted:
Agree
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 13:18 |
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My brother, these August men know these pouts of history. And yet they remain blind, wilfully blind, to the opportunities we propose! Are they men of Christ at all? I suspect many a Turkish coin falls between their fingers in the vaults of the mighty senators!
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 16:14 |
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Ofaloaf posted:
Let us put this to the senate: an alliance between Byzantium and the catholic nations of the west. A permanent bulwark against the Turk. All senators can agree with us on this proposal!
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2014 16:30 |
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Senators, I feel there are some platforms we can all agree on: 1. Unceasing war against the Turk 2. Alliances with orthodox nations 3. The maintenance of the Kataphractoi 4. Immediate conversion to Catholicism Since I hear you shouting from here, let us simply adopt the first three policies as a starting point for useful debate.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2014 00:06 |
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Ofaloaf posted:
I can throw my weight behind this proposal
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2014 09:17 |
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Loyalists? Loyalists! Who here is loyal except those you decry as "traitors"? Who are by definition loyal to our ultimate lord - the Prince of Peace - and his representative on earth The Bishop of Rome
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 18:37 |
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This senator is being rushed away by his sons after collapsing in apoplectic rage.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 19:46 |
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I'm going to run my own hands off game of ck2 from now on to determine where my senator votes. I'll basically be following the opinions of one of the Byzantine doux to the emperor and to a couple of other figures in my game. Where the family votes, I'll vote! I regret to inform my fellow senators that my father, Antonius Paulinus Thedopolus, was taken unto god this morning. I share his beliefs and look to further our shared papal heritage in his stead. For God and the Empress! My friends, my enemies, I salute you all in this time of strife.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 22:36 |
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Though I lack my late father's speech craft skills, I must second the issues put forward by the august senator before me, though please tolerate my fumbling tongue, I had hoped my maiden speech would be in calmer times. Let us consider the advantages of the papacy over the patriarchs growing fat from the spoils of our people. The papacy does little political but grant Catholic nations money and insists on nothing but a simple investiture of bishoprics! We can be an autonomous empire, backed by the entire united force of Christendom, if we but bend the knee to the representative of Christ on earth! Is that such a request?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2014 22:47 |
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Ratoslov posted:
I thank you for your kind words and proposal, which I second. I feel a chapel commemorating the Donation of Constantine would be an appropriate monument to my father's legacy? Though, devout as he was, perhaps a street in the... Ahem... Less salubrious quarter would be a fitting testament to my father's extra-senatorial activities. It was, in the end, the debate that killed him, but his time with his young wife (now my wife - you will meet her doubtless as the next wine-and-figs soirée held by the "Traitor" party) fatally weakened his humouric balance which had burned so brightly with choler in recent times. I must confess that my tutors did not encourage me to move into the theological school, and my ignorance concerning matters both liturgical and ecumenical has left me staggered at the range and ability of my fellow senator's oratorical ejaculation. I, while most certainly am my father's son, needs must take time to acquire the knowledge other senators seem to have been born with. My own expertise lies more in the commercial field. For other senators such as I coming into the senate for the first time, and especially for those without my father's guidance, perhaps the Old Patriarch, or "OP" could include a summation of the parties' general philosophies?
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2014 09:49 |
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Looks like our politics just became (Puts on sunglasses) Byzantine. Naaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 10:01 |
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Pester posted:
Though no milvan, new Byzantine or old roman, and a strong believer in the primacy of the Apostolic Successor of Christ who Sits In Rome, I believe this combination of marriage and conversion is one that all senators should support and I would wholeheartedly suggest my fellow Catholic Senators will join my good feeling towards these proposals. Convert the Mongols Marry into Kiev
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 18:36 |
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##Vote Guiding Light The tutors my father hired have made some extremely convincing arguments I think my fellow senators should hear..... The light Of God will shine upon the empress, Insh'allah!
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2014 23:31 |
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## Sponsor the university construction act ## Sponsor the trilingual literacy act.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2014 08:17 |
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B And now I've caught up - rincewind this is one hell of an LP
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# ¿ May 8, 2014 13:32 |
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Or it could have been built the same way the otl canal was - huge gangs of labourers, explosives and incredible loss of life?
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# ¿ May 14, 2014 09:52 |
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Funky Valentine posted:
## Join the Adventurer Merchants This is the best idea for a party
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# ¿ May 19, 2014 17:24 |
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Adventurer Merchants Man I like this system. oh I mean aarrrrr this senate be a mighty fine meet o' strange bedfellows an' merchants. As we sail upon the seven seas as byzantine merchant pirates, let us take this as our motto, my lads: Absque arrrrrrrgento omnia vana
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 12:54 |
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Can we do Africa without the tired cliches of new Carthage? A strong merchant Swahili state is likely, given that it actually happened otl and I think we can reliably assume that East African trading is strong as all hell with the ultra china. South Africa? Well with no canal yet, it depends on whether or not we're thinking about Cape sea traffic being useful - it'd be cool to accelerate the development of South Africa as a trading port. Let's put a Chinese trading empire down there. And then let's put a ludicrously high revolt risk on all their provinces, with no cores. gently caress it, if Africa's going to play on the usual cliches - let's play with the worst one of all, explosive decolonisation events.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 21:57 |
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AdventFalls posted:I just thought it fitting considering this is a Rome LP. People can take the bits of mine they like. Sorry to have been so down on it, I think because I'd been reading about the scramble for Africa, and just generally missing working out in Kenya I wanted to see indigenous African groups do well in the LP. It always seems like eu LP mods get loads of cool ideas for china and India and America, but Africa gets 'Europeans/whoever is actually running thangs'. As my experience with EU4 is about four hours of gameplay, I don't have ideas myself, so tbh I shouldn't be ragging on yours, sorry! I guess the counterpoint to this is grey's LP anyway.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2014 11:43 |
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Edit: quote =/= edit
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2014 11:43 |
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Jerusalem ended horrifically, but redeemed by Pancrazio's skull, while Wiz wrote an all-too-true ending to the Hohenzollern LP:quote:Vézelay, Yonne, German-occupied Burgundy, April of 1968
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2016 14:18 |
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Empress Theonora posted:Byzantine communists always have had a soft spot for their liberal forebears. That's definitely an "as above so below" thing there
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2016 00:14 |
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You could go more archaic slightly, using twenties or even Edwardian women? Have them be the backward-looking fascists in terms of fashion, rather than the futurist fascists of otl. Would open up revanchist French patriots to you as a resource.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2016 08:40 |
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Setting different lucky nations and even console switching between nations at the beginning to give extra money or admin points gives a credible go at alt history. CK2 does enough alt history on its own usually, and EU just needs the above. Vicky does whatever the gently caress Vicky does, and it's usually normal national boundaries with utterly crazy politics. If you go in with ideas, some creative console led bonuses will get you most of the rest of the way.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 22:30 |
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Ah yeah absolutely, you can create that stuff without mods (just the converter) but it's a pain in the rear end and everyone would have to do it successfully. Crusader states is so over done though, let's have alt history where the Pyrenees proved no barrier to Islamic expansion, and the caliphate took Vienna. Much more interesting effects on Europe, I think.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2016 23:37 |
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I can get you a fair few civilian portraits 1910-1960. Might be easier to email though or similar.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 13:03 |
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In that case you'd think they'd be working on their force projection - naval arms race and bombers, perhaps (very roughly) analogous to the relationship between Germany and Britain from 1900-45.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 21:15 |
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The current largest factory in the world makes airplanes and employs something like 25,000 people directly. The civil service in the uk employs 400,000 and it runs everything in the country. I can't even imagine the sheer amounts of concrete produced in Athens in this one factory.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 23:48 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 10:23 |
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Rince look after yourself and do whatever you've got to do with the LP. I want to say though - you've created a world where men and women came together to fight monarchy and oppression and fascism, and won, and will win, and will build their world together for all. I thank you for it. You should be proud of that - and should remember that life imitates art. It will get better, fight and make it better. Don that Phrygian cap, cry out for liberty, freedom and Byzantium!
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2016 10:16 |