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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

prefect posted:

first eight

some episodes from nine, i think

they had an underappreciated second wind in like seasons 15-18 (to no small part because a number of the competitors that people left and started around season 9 had failed and they got some good writers back)

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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

PleasureKevin posted:

while i hate Scroogle, how the gently caress can you copyright an API, absent of any actual code

but AMD can reverse engineer the x86?

however, if you can't copyright an API, can you make a free WoW server?

amd has one of the few outstanding x86 licenses, simultanously their greatest asset and (likely, no one knows the details of the contract) worst curse, since they would lose the license if they got bought out, so they have to plod along making bad processors instead. it always seemed pretty clear that the only reason amd tried to go arm a couple of years back was to try to pivot into a situation where they could be bought without simultaneously destroying all value

as usual copyright law is not entirely clear-cut, there are most certainly both api's that can be copyrighted and ones that can't. a sufficiently novel and complex api (it may, notably, encode non-trivial engineering details) is of course copyrightable

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

it is some kind of comment on the nature of modern man if people on the regular invite people out to eat with no thought in their head about what or where to eat beyond a broad category, letting google make all decisions beyond that

i assume that the next version will just have you type "lunhc!=??" and an uber pulls up with people randomly invited from your google+ and drives you to a gas station for their famous tuna wrap

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

how do you read that and not understand that what i am saying is that it is weird to not have an idea where you want to go, or your friend does, possibly making for an in itself interesting conversation. i cannot see the use in having google butt in in-line about that

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i have no idea what you are going for, but i am pretty sure you are putting in way too much effort to ridicule an obviously ridiculous concept

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

vodkat posted:

since were wrecking on google moonshot acquisitions can anyone name a company they bought that actually turned into a good and profitable product?

Applied Semantics (makers of AdSense), Android Inc., YouTube

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

also they don't need that many hits to make the purchases worth it with the sort of rather ambitious stuff they pick up. as noted, adsense/adwords was effectively purchased (cheap), android and youtube cost a bit more but turned out fantastic

i was sort of expecting people to quote that list and go "well what have they done recently?!" and then i was going to first quote the monty python skit about what the romans have done, and then bring up DeepMind, which they also bought pretty much complete, for a rather piddling sum even considering just the pr alone

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

pretty clear that is was always a hedge to not be reliant on google not going insane in one way or another

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i guess android does not separate apps getting to stay resident and apps getting to schedule tasks in the background? sounds like they threw in 6 gigs of ram, had 30+ apps resident, and they ground down the battery in no time

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i had one of the sony phones with the state of the art camera hardware, the actual camera app though had a billion settings and every photo i took while owning that phone was blown-out bright or dark, or grainy, or blurry

i am uninterested enough that i am p. thankful for babbys first camera software

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

google, having perfected the immortality serum and all manner of autonomous machinery realizes that they are about to inflict upon humanity a horrifying loss of purpose; they fret for some time before larry comes up with the solution: "how about we have everyone just juggle an infinite series of incompatible messaging applications for the rest of eternity?"

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

got 100/100 in 2000 and have never changed :sweden:

this is such a pointless derail

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

PleasureKevin posted:

*throws pixel in trash*

welp, we tried. *pause* hey wait a minute.

* pulls computer out of trash*

*peels off "pixel" sticker*

maybe we can still use this bit?

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

it was an obviously awful idea, and it being given credence anywhere supposedly serious went a long way towards ruining my faith in current tech culture actually getting us anywhere useful

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Endless Mike posted:

apparently samsung france mentioned that they're going to send out an ota brick update soon

the older and more politically weird i get the more i suspect that the french are actually the most sensible people of the world, despite to all appearances being entirely dysfunctional

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

duTrieux. posted:

because samsung totally respsects patents

i believe so yeah, south korea is certainly more on the us side than on the chinese anarchy side when it comes to ip

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

"culture" of buying the cheapest thing whether or not it is complete garbage ladies and gentlemen

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

well, that's what force touch is.

remember when android devices invariably had a trackball? no doubt a relic of the original plan of making a blackberry killer. those sure were the days

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

it is always interesting to note that we live in an age where the average kid communicates with her/his peers in writing more than at any other point in history, especially far far more than the preceding few generations ever did

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

all did for a fairly long time, i believe it was part of the requirements (along with the physical buttons and multicolor led) for a fair while

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

jogwheels and multicolor indicator leds were good though, the bad kind of aping apple going on in letting those go

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

in these twilight days of the forums quoting stymie is really all we have left

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

just get really stoned and lie down in the middle of manhattan irl you loving nerds

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

it looks p. bad both ways v:shobon:v

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

computer modern everywhere, non-retina displays (and people who like things which look good) need not apply

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Sapozhnik posted:

the primary computing device used by most of the population is a piece of hardware that the possessor does not control, running proprietary software, communicating to other proprietary software that also runs on hardware that they do not control. this entire rotten pipeline, accountable to nobody, is privy to the deepest darkest secrets of virtually everybody in the western world.

it is a dark loving time not just for computing but humanity in general.

richard stallman was and is absolutely right about everything.

Have a capital letter.

all software in the world could be gplv2 and it would not help current privacy issues one lick. in fact, the most open-source aligned of current popular operating systems (android) is likely the worst one as far as personal freedoms and privacy impact goes

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

the average person absolutely has an android phone since they dont give a gently caress and iphones are expensive

in sweden the iphone 7 is $800, a moto g5 is $225. you have to, unsurprisingly, be someone who actually cares about ones ~devices~ to go spending that sort of cash

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

getting to be annoying how little value seems to be placed in phones being reasonably sturdy. i will admit that i no doubt *could* be more careful, but it has been easier peace of mind to just buy stuff like nokias back when they were a thing (still on the lumia 950, which also appears to be largely indestructible)

one of those areas where not even apple is doing that well, though they are no worse than the typical android phone

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

ah, well, there we rather have it, in that i find cases are largely universally ugly. i do, granted, have a mozo back on the 950, but that is already pushing it a bit as far as i am concerned

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

most poo poo in the xml sphere was underthought and overengineered, making for a lot of fantastically clunky stuff with the primary purpose of making sure software threw errors on bad input rather than risking doing something unintentionally correct

the web got a bit messy by development being again by relative amateurs after a decade of neglect, but the primary cause of the neglect was that the w3c spent that decade trying to convince people that browsers should not incrementally render since they'd risk interpreting a document that turned out to not be ~~strictly correct~~

and the above is just complaining about the surface stuff which could with a bit of effort be argued to possibly serve some purpose, we then have to painfully recall the loving semantic web and owl and all of that hugely misdirected effort

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

btw json is poo poo too, should have gone with a relational format for interchange, as nasty as sql is defining a subset for the web would have been sweet. did some rather hacked up services for a b2b scenario by replicating our databases, setting up a view of the info the service should expose, and using database permission system to lock the service user onto those views, and just had them jdbc in across the internet without bothering to ever write a messy xml/soap/web layer where we would have constrained how the data could be queried for no reason

not exactly scalable, but the sql solution we used was an ancient battle-tested thing, and i have little doubt that us wrapping it in something would have been far more likely to gently caress up security/scalability than just letting it do its thing directly

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i legit think next time i have this problem and the opportunity to do so i will send a sqlite database over the wire, it is entirely trivial to do, and the format is portable

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Rex-Goliath posted:

if you didn't learn how to hack by breaking netnanny or some other pos software so you could look at porn gtfo of yospos you dont belong here

obviously the conversation is very explicitly about porn in the age before the internet was generally available

we, granted, got the internet when i was 16, but the computer was in a common room of the house, and i couldn't very well lock the door, so what could be gleaned from more accessible media was very relevant v:shobon:v

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i really really don't think there is a "yet" about this development. until we have the asimov-style benevolent computer overlord running every aspect of the world it will remain an entirely human affair what is offensive and inappropriate, the act of encoding an understanding of what it is in an artifact that act will change what it actually is

even with strong ai there would need to be some background rigid conception of what the goal is which will never truly work out

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

mrmcd posted:

It probably performs a lot better on full paragraphs because like lots of ML stuff the model overfits and disappears up its own rear end in a top hat on small amounts of data.

nah, nlp is not there yet to actually make sense of sentence structure, and what is bad becomes far more subtle. it'd probably do better on a lot of keywords taken together sure, but type up some complex prose and it is just outside of what can be done today, and anyway becomes a judgement that simply cannot be put to simple rules (here i started typing up some example comparing black men in sports to brutal beasts fighting in the colosseum for the thrills of emotional women etc., but as i tried to phrase that out in a fancy way it got rather too distasteful very quickly)

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

the machine learning future is pretty irreführende in general

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

there is one (quite competent and fully-featured afaik) bundled with erlang itself, and of course yaws for the full http server

i suspect they'd have called it out if it was something as well-known as that though, rather they are now feeling a bit sheepish about cloning some random github project instead

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

tbqh i could have done with living in a reality without neither iphones nor nazis

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Generic Monk posted:

i wonder if people use htc phones for security-critical stuff, or even use htc phones in general, enough for this to be a problem

it being a personal information leak is pretty serious, but it really doesn't seem much of an issue for the security of that particular phone, since the people with the dodgy app stealing the fingerprint will be unlikely the intersect with the people getting physical access to the phone and wanting to do something nefarious with the access afforded by the fingerprint

and your fingerprint not being known by some shady people is a pretty poor bet to start with, so it probably always had a pretty small chance of being a problem. no less incredibly stupid to just leave it lying around though

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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

different can be fun fyi

the landscape is really drab atm though, really nothing that is reasonably unique which can at the same time fulfill basic needs (which these days includes apps from one of the major platforms, since everything from banking to parking is app-first these days)

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