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I love talking about the Lost Franklin Expedition. For 400 years, Europeans searched for the Northwest Passage. Anything beats traveling around South America or Africa, right? I mean, it's right there in front of us. So, everybody tried. Most expeditions ended in disaster or close to it. It took them awhile to figure out how to survive in extreme cold, especially when your boats were blocked by ice for months and there is little wildlife or plants to eat. Everyone had to turn back at some point, even the most patient ones who were gone for two years. So this resilient man, John Franklin, decided it would be him to conquer the ice. So he and his boats, the Terror and Erebus, and a crew of 130 set out in 1845. Earlier expeditions said this would take forever, so no one bothered searching until he had been gone for two years. Worse, no one exactly knows where he might be. Just somewhere above Canada. It turns into a worldwide search effort with Canadians, Americans, Brits, other Europeans and Russians all having a theory. Some good things happened during the search; most of western Canada was mapped. Yep, it was 1850 and no one was quite sure what lay out there. Then some evidence starts popping up. Wikipedia posted:In 1854, John Rae, while surveying the Boothia Peninsula for the Hudson's Bay Company (HBC), discovered further evidence of the lost men's fate. Rae met an Inuk near Pelly Bay (now Kugaaruk, Nunavut) on 21 April 1854, who told him of a party of 35 to 40 white men who had died of starvation near the mouth of the Back River. Other Inuit confirmed this story, which included reports of cannibalism among the dying sailors. The Inuit showed Rae many objects that were identified as having belonged to Franklin and his men. In particular, Rae brought from the Pelly Bay Inuit several silver forks and spoons later identified as belonging to Fitzjames, Crozier, Franklin, and Robert Osmer Sargent, a shipmate aboard Erebus. Rae's report was sent to the Admiralty, which in October 1854 urged the HBC to send an expedition down the Back River to search for other signs of Franklin and his men.[31][32] There have been multiple expeditions since then. The boats have yet to be found but a few bodies, buried and unburied, have been found. More evidence supports cannibalism. The scary part is the timeline. Some of Franklin's men may have still been alive during Rae's search and discoveries. Wikipedia posted:1845, 19 May: Franklin expedition sails from England
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CodfishCartographer posted:Yeah, the documentary does a pretty good job of painting how crazy the whole thing was, but also how Jones went about bringing normally completely sane individuals to the point where they'd think that poisoning their own babies and then themselves was the best choice of action. I can't imagine how frightening it must have been for the few people that survived, having to hide in the jungle or under beds hoping that the guards with guns didn't come find ad shoot them because they refused to kill themselves. You wouldn't think to look in Sports Illustrated for an article on Jonestown. There were others who survived it. Mainly because they weren't in Jonestown at the time. Jones allowed some basketball hoops to go up at the camp and agreed it was a way of spreading goodwill between them and Guyana, so he sent a team to play a few games. Among the roster was Jim Jr., Stephan and Tim Jones. They weren't there when everything went down, but they had to hear it as it happened because Jim Sr. called them up and told them it was time to die. They had to help identify bodies. Jim Jr. and Tim were adopted children, but Stephan was the Jones' one biological child.
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ninjahedgehog posted:That said, this wasn't the first time Jones had told them all to drink some poison. I think the Wikipedia article mentions that they knew that mass suicide was a possibility, and they had even had drills where everyone drank something they thought was poison, but wasn't. Yes. White Nights. Wikipedia posted:Jones made frequent addresses to Temple members regarding Jonestown's safety, including statements that the CIA and other intelligence agencies were conspiring with "capitalist pigs" to destroy Jonestown and harm its inhabitants.[50][65][66] After work, when purported emergencies arose, the Temple sometimes conducted what Jones referred to as "White Nights".[67] During such events, Jones would sometimes give the Jonestown members four choices: attempt to flee to the Soviet Union; commit "revolutionary suicide"; stay in Jonestown and fight the purported attackers; or flee into the jungle.[68] [quote=""Interview with former Jonestown resident Teri Buford O'Shea in The Atlantic" What were the warning signs that things might get really dangerous? One big warning sign was that he had revolutionary suicide practices. He called them White Nights. He did this several times, both in the United States and in Guyana. That sounds like a pretty big warning sign. How did those work? There were loudspeakers all over the compound, and Jim Jones's voice was on them almost 24/7. He couldn't be talking all the time, but he'd tape what he said and then play it back all day long. And the rule was that we couldn't talk when Jim Jones was talking. So on the loudspeakers, he'd suddenly call out, "White Night! White Night! Get to the to the pavilion! Run! Your lives are in danger!" Everyone would rush to the pavilion in middle of the encampment. Then he would tell us that in the United States, African Americans were being herded into concentration camps, that there was genocide on the streets. They were coming to kill and torture us because we'd chosen what he called the socialist track. He said they were on their way. We didn't know this at the time, but he'd set up people who would shoot into the jungle to make us feel as if we were under attack. And there were other people who were set up to run and get shot -- with rubber bullets, though we didn't know it at the time. So there you were, in the middle of the jungle. Shots were being fired, and people were surrounding you with guns. Then a couple of women brought out these trays of cups of what they said was cyanide-laced Kool-Aid, or Flavor-Aid -- whichever they had. Everybody drank it. If we didn't drink it, we were forced to drink it. If we ran, thought we'd be shot. At the end of it, we were wondering, Why aren't we dead? And then Jim would just start laughing and clapping his hands. He'd tell us it was a rehearsal and say, "Now I know I can trust you." And then, in the weirdest way, he said, "Go home, my darlings! Sleep tight!" We weren't really in mood for sleeping tight at that point. Do you think the people who died on November 18 thought at first that it was another dress rehearsal? No, when the final time came, I think people were aware it was real thing. It had been a very, very bad day. Congressman Ryan had come to investigate the compound and people were leaving with him. People argued with Jim, but anyone who didn't want to commit suicide was held down and shot with needles filled with potassium cyanide. Unless you were one of the lucky ones who happened to sneak off into the jungle, you were dead. They went around with stethoscopes, and if you still had a heartbeat, you'd be shot. Furthermore, they killed all the children first. That killed a lot of the people at heart before they actually took the Kool-Aid. [/quote]
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Official: Vermillion teens died in car crash in 1971. This popped up on the AP wire earlier this year. Yep, this year. Sioux City Journal posted:ELK POINT, S.D. | After nearly 43 years of searching for answers, Kay Brock finally has an explanation, albeit incomplete, of what happened the late-spring evening her younger sister, Pamella Jackson, mysteriously disappeared. The car was actually found in the creek late last year, but the investigation wasn't complete until April. For 43 years, the answer to the question was right there. But yet, it was sunk into water, invisible. This was a similar one: Skeleton in Car Solves 32-Year-Old Mystery. I think I remember reading this on Snopes years ago while wasting time at work. Lake Lanier, mentioned in this article, is kinda freaky anyway. It's man-made and the only things moved for its creation were cemeteries. There's at least some forest under the water, homes ... and a racetrack. Someone claimed to have spotted a gas station down there. (There's also an inordinate amount of drownings and boat accidents.)
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Dr. Dos posted:http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/09/09/347105526/canada-says-its-found-ship-from-doomed-1845-arctic-expedition  Here's some footage of the site.
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I might have posted this at some point in either thread, but the case of Marie Hilley. It starts off as your run of the mill arsenic poisoner, then it takes a soap opera-ish turn when Hilley jumps bail and creates a false identity, then kills herself off and returns as the twin sister and tries to make it with the same man. Then there is another twist when she escapes prison again. e: Messed up a detail. RC and Moon Pie has a new favorite as of 06:05 on Dec 15, 2014 |
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Tibor posted:A bunch of kids who regularly spent time in the gym with him said he always threw his shoes up onto the gym mats and would climb on top of them to collect them when he was done. I do appreciate that the circumstances are very weird but there are also suggestions that the family's lawyers (I think...) lied about some of the stuff that went on and it was ruled that stuffing the body with newspaper, while insensitive, was perfectly legal and acceptable. It's one of those situations where there seems to be a balance between which scenario is more realistic: a bunch of weird circumstances surrounding a mundane death or a bunch of explainable circumstances covering up a mysterious death. Strangely, there is an update just today on the case.. And the more detailed local version. The family is currently clinging to a "travel log" of a wrestling team bus, which lists a 4 o'clock departure time for the state wrestling tournament weigh-ins. They believed that this proved that one of the kids claimed to have issues with Johnson was still on campus at the time of his death. As it turns out, he wasn't as the bus left at or before 12:30 because the weigh-ins were at 4 and all the information in the article in regards to travel times lines up. Like Honorable TB who posted on the previous page, I know the area, too, and I'm much more willing to pin pure incompetence on the local investigation rather than malice. It's a terrible situation for the family and they should be pissed at how the investigation was initially handled.
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I've been reading links from Longform and am drawn to the stuff from Texas Monthly. Here is Wheel in the Sky, about a small town high school band and a Ferris wheel accident. The linked article is a bit vague on what actually happened, so here is a contemporary article that describes the accident part in detail. If that isn't enough Texas tragedy, the New London school explosion.
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I can't stop reading Texas Monthly. A Kiss Before Dying quote:Betty Williams was a fast girl from the wrong side of the tracks. Mack Herring was a handsome football player with all the right friends. When he broke up with her during her senior year at Odessa High School, her world fell apart. But she asked him for one last favor: to kill her.
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Carnotaurus posted:Marty Bergen was loving insane. I almost posted about Marty Bergen a while back. The Sports Illustrated link is dead on Wikipedia, but they have a pretty decent story on Bergen's deteriorating mental state. Sticking with sports, the 1977 plane crash that killed nearly all of the Evansville Purple Aces basketball team. "Nearly all" meant that someone was spared, the team's statistician for home games. He had been a player, but was out because of an ankle injury. quote:There was, though, another terrible turn of fate. Cut from the team because of an ankle injury, UE freshman David Furr, the Aces’ statistician, was not on the plane. Two weeks after the crash he and his 16-year-old brother were driving home from a holiday basketball tournament and were killed in a car accident in Newton, Ill.
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There is a Tamam Shud update. Though no one offers a hypothesis about why he died, if you subscribe to either of the two trains of thought offered, it's probably not as mysterious as it seems. The article's end is its own bit of creepy, though, but for other reasons. Also, a New York zoo briefly housed an African-American pygmy man, Ota Benga, as a special exhibit for customers in 1906. At the least the guy had a few relatively decent years in the United States, though it's still a thoroughly  story.
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There's a quality of writing out of Florida's Bay-area papers. Longform.org reprinted this Sunday, about the investigation into the murders of three Ohio women whose bodies were found in the water in 1989.quote:This was June 4, another hot and beautiful day. The Amber Waves, a sailboat on its way home to Tampa after a trip to Key West, had just crossed under the Skyway when several people on board saw an object in the water. It looks like a body, one of them said.
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On the 100th anniversary of the lynching, if you're not familiar with the Leo Frank case, I'd suggest reading up on it. Frank is the only known Jewish individual to be lynched in America. He was convicted in 1913 of murdering his employee Mary Phagan and his sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1915. His killers drove from Marietta to Milledgeville, then quite a journey by car, to kidnap him and take to Marietta for the lynching. The conviction was on rather scant evidence and the graphic testimony by another employee, Jim Conley. The case would test which southerners hated and distrusted more - a black man (Conley) or a carpetbagging Yankee Jew. The fallout inspired both the creation of the Anti-Defamation League ... and the resurrection of the Ku Klux Klan. RC and Moon Pie has a new favorite as of 04:40 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Not to be confused with the rabbit babies of Mary Toft.
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Rosemary Kennedy is the subject of a new book, "Rosemary: The Hidden Kennedy Daughter." Rosemary is best known as being the lobotomized Kennedy, the one who spent her adult years nearly completely separated from the family as barely more than a living vegetable. It wasn't supposed to be that way. Rosemary was a capable young woman, albeit behind her siblings. Her threats of independence and potential embarrassment for Joe Kennedy were too much. He wanted her more docile. So he sent her for a new procedure, the lobotomy. It didn't go like planned and the family hushed it up. During JFK's Presidency, Rosemary was referred to as being mentally retarded. quote:New York Times quote:Rosemary’s return to the family home in Bronxville was disastrous. She regressed, experiencing seizures and violent tantrums, hitting and hurting those in the vicinity. Her frantic parents sent her to a summer camp in western Massachusetts (she was kicked out after a few weeks), a Philadelphia boarding school (she lasted a few months) and then a convent school in Washington, D.C., where a rebellious Rosemary wandered off at night. Fearing that men might sexually prey on their vulnerable daughter, her parents worried that a scandal would diminish the family’s political prospects.
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Rondette posted:This bit gets me every time. Poor woman Walter Freeman, who pretty much became Mr. Lobotomy, simplified the procedure. "The Guardian posted:Spurred on by his first-hand experience of the horrors of state-run mental institutions and determined to make his name as a medical pioneer, Freeman developed a version of Moniz's procedure that reached the frontal lobe tissue through the tear ducts. His transorbital lobotomy involved taking a kitchen ice pick, later refined into a more proficient instrument called a leucotome, and hammering it through the thin layer of skull in the corner of each eye socket. The pick would then be scrambled from side to side in order to damage the frontal lobe. The process took about 10 minutes and could be performed anywhere, without the assistance of a surgeon. If anyone has access to Saturday Evening Post archives via EBSCOhost, look up Irving Wallace's "The Operation of Last Resort" from 1951. The original title was supposedly "They Cut Out His Conscience." That thing gave me nightmares.
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You might remember the chimp attack a few years ago, where Travis ripped off a woman's face and hands. There is an article from about that time about his upbringing, I guess you could say. The thin line between animal intelligence and wild animal instincts are a bit disturbing. Of course there is the whole matter of his owner's attachment to him. quote:Sandy and Jerry invited Travis to join them at the table for meals. He ate oatmeal with a spoon every morning. At their favorite Italian restaurant, Pellicci’s, she read him the menu, offering him choices. His favorite food was filet mignon. He also enjoyed lobster tail. He preferred Lindt’s chocolates. He liked Nerds candy and taffy, and he loved ice cream, hooting and pulling at Sandy when the ice-cream man came down the street. When he was thirsty, he swung his body up onto the counter and took out a glass, opened the refrigerator, and poured himself juice or soda. The article does not go into much detail on the victim's injuries. She apparently lost a lawsuit against the state a year ago.
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pookel posted:I know a guy who used to be a small-town reporter - small enough that he was also a photographer. He's a kind, sensitive guy. Always concerned about the right thing to do and concerned about the welfare of the people in the news stories he writes. He told me about a car wreck he covered as a reporter. The car was full of teenagers driving recklessly at night, and they'd gone off the road and rammed into something - I can't remember what, maybe a building? - at high speeds while one kid had her head stuck out a window. The results were gruesome, as you might imagine. He was taking a million pictures, as you're taught to do, getting up close, trying different angles, zooming in on key focal points of the scene, when he glanced up and noticed the parents of the girl whose head had been crushed standing there glaring at him. He quit taking pictures and made a point of not using any of the graphic ones he'd taken. I work for a small town paper. Thankfully while I've been here nothing spectacularly gross has happened. We've had car wrecks, fires, a plane crash and a handful of murders, but thanks to our shoddy funding, we don't have the manpower to be out at 3 a.m. and no one forces the issue. That said, there is no doubt about it that our best selling issues are about crime. People complain that we don't have feel-good stuff - we do and often - but they are the same folks who buy stacks about robberies and share our Facebook when the local spa is busted for the workers offering happy endings. As mentioned, media used to be a whole lot worse about intrusion. Gory pictures were all over the place (and articles; our paper used to be loaded with front page out-of-state stories on mass murders) and it wasn't just news outlets. Read some old archives and you'll find traveling exhibitions, such as the purported Bonnie and Clyde death car, filled with bullet holes. I guess traveling circus human exhibitions fall into that category as well.
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The Long Fall of Phoebe Jonchuck - Despite spending a lifetime in the legal system, with many violent arrests, John Jonchuck wasn't considered a threat by police and DFC. Then he threw his daughter off a bridge. I still haven't finished reading it, but have read few things as crushing as part two.
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Filox posted:I went looking because the above book excerpt was compelling but unsatisfying and they did cover those murders before, in an article from 2000, http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/capital-murder/ PBS had an investigative piece on it a while back where - at least from the research presented on the show - they had a pretty strong suspect. Here we go: History Detectives. I haven't re-watched it, but recall that the show's leads started off awful and nonsensical, but it actually led somewhere.
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Just remember that New London is the reason natural gas has an odor. One of the longform sites recently linked a pretty bad author fantasy article about the East Area Rapist-Original Night Stalker, but I had forgotten how nasty the case was. He's never been caught. He's been perhaps linked to an escalation of crimes from a run of the mill Visalia ransacker to rapist to murderer. There have been all kinds of clues from a poem to an essay dropped about a mean teacher, to this individual actually making phone calls to victims. Cold Case Files did a pretty good episode years back. That said, if you have the proper cable provider, their old episodes are all pretty good.
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A combination of and strangely uplifting for what he's accomplished. How a Son Survived Being Injected with HIV by His Father
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Apraxin posted:Was writing up this post for the PYF Historical Facts thread, but realized that it's actually the PYF Fun Historical Facts thread, and these aren't acctually any fun at all. They're unnerving though, so here's a couple of examples of just how loving easy it used to be for white people to murder and/or maim black people on grounds such as 'he looked at me funny' and suffer no negative consequences: Never look up Jesse Washington. Never ever look up Jesse Washington. loving hell, they sold a postcard of that. Lynching postcards and "souvenirs" (fingers, bits of clothing) were not unusual, but that one was  a postcard of a heavily mutilated body and burned man front of a huge crowd of people Oddly enough, Waco just had a story Sunday about the anniversary of his death. Warning: Near the end of the article is one of the pictures.Every now and then, when I can stomach it, I go back and try to do a bit of lynching research. Numbers have been released as have a few victim lists. Even the contemporary numbers were way off until the 1920s or so. The Mary Turner lynching is brutal, but pretty par for the course. Lynchers weren't above shooting or hanging young teens. Even when justice was being served, as in that a suspect was arrested and jailed, it wasn't uncommon for the sheriff to be lured away and held up for his keys or the jail's doors to be battered down. One group in a bit of research I found burned the jail. As said, "offenses" ran the gamut to bodily harm with a weapon, a whole lot of suspected rapes/looking at white women funny to handing out subversive material to trying to get out of sharecropping. I wouldn't know where to begin to look for it again as it's newspaper archives and not a particular website, but Louisiana was, uh, more creative. I can't recall exact details, but one victim was tied up and stuffed inside the carcass of a cow, with just his head sticking out. He was to be left there, to let nature make his death as drawn out and painful as possible. The south thought it was being persecuted for the lynchings and southern newspapers of the 1890s-1910s really loved pointing out when a rare lynching happened up north, especially when a victim was female. With communication improving by leaps and bounds and a few political figures finally voicing their opinions within their states, it seems that lynching finally began to taper off in the 1920s. Of course as Emmett Till proves, it didn't exactly go away. It was very rare for there to be a conviction, even when it was the high profile lynching of white Jewish businessman Leo Frank and the whole town of Marietta, Georgia, was in on the secret.
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If anyone's curious about the snake handling aspects of Pentecostal/Holiness religion, I highly recommend the 1967 documentary The Holy Ghost People. My neck of the woods has had a deep connection with that particular belief. Since snake handling religious folk refuse medical treatment for any bites, there aren't any reliable statistics for deaths, but there have been at least five documented in the area in a 50-year timespan.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:28
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Theresa Knorr used her kids to help murder her other kids. The Marybeth Tinning case is especially as she had to have had major psychological problems, but it took 15 years before authorities arrested her. All nine of her children had died in infancy at that point.
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Aug 15, 2016 03:22
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Music and murder deserves a mention of Charles Manson and the Beach Boys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2YRtIKg9Q The above, Never Learn Not to Love is a re-write by Dennis Wilson of Manson's Cease to Exist. Dennis Wilson was a freewheeler. The only natural surfer of the band, it was possibly he who ultimately got the group started when mentioning to record producers that their family (and friend) band totally had one more song, one about surfing. The sport was trendy and the song - Surfin', written by Brian Wilson as a high school assignment - was tight enough to get them signed and became their first single. The band was mostly beyond surfing in 1968, two years past Pet Sounds, and while on the back end of their first wave of popularity, still a big part of the Capitol label. Dennis was out driving one day that year and upon noticing two female hitchhikers, he picked them up. Later, he saw them again and not only picked them up, but brought them back to his place. He went out and when he returned, there was Charles Manson. Dennis became enchanted with Manson and found out that his new friend liked songwriting and had a bit of skills. At some unknown point, possibly early 1969, Manson even went to the Beach Boys' home studio, set up in Brian's Bellagio home, and recorded several songs for a solo album. The sessions were produced by Brian and Carl Wilson. From those who remember them, it seems that Manson rarely did more than one take of a song. Prior to then, and probably not long after they met, Dennis borrowed Cease to Exist. It was recorded in September 1968 and released in December as a single (the B side of Bluebirds Over the Mountain, which climbed to 61 on the US charts). Manson was uncredited for his efforts, which is a very lucky break on the band's part. Even if supposedly Manson threatened to kill Dennis for altering the words. Things were still apparently hunky dory between the two late in the year as Dennis is interviewed in Record Mirror in December.  quote:"[T]hey told me they they too had a guru, a guy named Charlie, who'd recently come out of jail after 12 years. His mother was a hooker, his father was a gangster, he'd drifted into crime but when I met him, I found he had great musical ideas. We're writing together now. He's dumb, in s ome ways, but I accept his approach and have learnt from him. He taught me a dance, The Inhibition. You have to imagine you're a frozen man and the ice is thawing out. Start with your fingertips, then all the rest of you, then you extend it to a feeling that the whole universe is thawing out..." In the last paragraph, some of the Manson beliefs had apparently rubbed off and he had given much of his possessions away and lived simply. Ultimately, the bickering between Wilson and Manson escalated. The Family ran up huge bills - there's rumors of a lot of money being spent to treat STDs - and Manson became more aggressive. Van Dyke Parks remembered Wilson beating the hell out of Manson after being threatened. The Family didn't go quietly, though, and ultimately Wilson had to vacate his home. He let the lease end so the Family would be evicted. Not long after Never Learn Not to Love's single release, it appeared again on the Beach Boys' 20/20 album. It was their final with Capitol and they were fulfilling their contract (the album title partially refers to it being their 20th proper release under the label) before moving to their own label, Brother Records. Manson had been pissed off at Dennis Wilson. He was also pissed off with producer Terry Melcher. Melcher, who was close to the Beach Boys, didn't come through for Manson in materializing an album. Melcher and Manson met at the home Melcher was sharing with Candice Bergen and musician Mark Lindsay. The address was 10050 Cielo Drive. The three would leave the home soon after a falling out. The next occupant would be Roman Polanski. And Sharon Tate. She, Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Steven Parent and Wojciech Frykowski were murdered Aug. 9, with the LaBianca murders happened the next night. It's long been speculated that Manson picked the address to get revenge on Melcher. Lindsay doesn't think it was case. "Midland Reporter-Telegram posted:"Everybody speculated that Manson sent his minions up there to get rid of Terry because he was angry about not getting a record deal. But Terry and I talked about it later and Terry said Manson knew (Melcher had moved) because Manson or someone from his organization left a note on Terry's porch in Malibu," Lindsay said. That doesn't rule out, of course, that Manson was trying to send a message. Not surprisingly, Dennis Wilson didn't like talking about Manson in the years after. The fallout might have even sped up his demons, but multiple divorces, accidents (he damaged his hand to the point he couldn't drum for a few years) and family disintegration didn't help. The Wilsons and Loves were an incredibly hosed up bunch and volumes have been written about all the incidents, including those from their ancestors. Mike Love's grandson is also his second cousin. Back to Manson's album attempt, he did have one released. They weren't the Wilson home studio recordings, but those tapes might actually still exist. Guns N' Roses released a Manson song, too, Look at Your Game Girl in 1993, but obviously knew what exactly they were doing. Edit: Added when Tate was murdered. RC and Moon Pie has a new favorite as of 03:46 on Aug 18, 2016 |
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Longform has reprinted the 1974 Washington Post article about Christine Chubbuck's live, on air suicide.quote:When Chris Chubbuck killed herself, she followed those instructions. There seemed to be no doubt that she had every intention of killing herself. There were some who were confused by the word “attempted” suicide in her script. But those who worked with her had a ready explanation. Chris was too good a newswoman to write suicide when it might have failed. She was too precise. And even her mother thought it not unusual. And that's one of the least  bits of the story.
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Khazar-khum posted:My Dad was a real rocket scientist. He was a propulsion expert, so he was heavily involved in both investigations. They called him out of retirement to work on Columbia. He never liked the orbiter; he felt it was a feel-good project instead of building the moonbase he wanted. He felt both accidents could have been avoided had they done the necessary prep work. Challenger really angered him, because he knew most of the guys on board. Christa McAuliffe is the one everyone remembers as she was a civilian - a teacher. It was part of a broader project called the Teacher in Space Project,a Ronald Reagan initiative. Applications came in from 11,000 educators. My father said he applied for it. I'm guessing he never heard anything after he sent it in. Teacher in Space had no chance after Challenger, but it's kinda scary that its push was because of a bit of Reagan window dressing. Though NASA had began to ponder what to about civilians in space in 1982, it was Reagan who pushed it much further. Campaigning, "on Aug. 27, 1984, as part of a “major education address” in which he called on schools to raise the scores of the nation’s students on standardized tests, reduce the dropout rate, and adopt tougher discipline measures, Mr. Reagan announced that the first civilian to fly on the shuttle would be a teacher. “When the shuttle lifts off, all of America will be reminded of the crucial role teachers and education play in the life of our nation,” the President said."
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:When we say the trial took a single day, that's the whole shebang, from jury selection to death verdict; deliberation took 10 minutes. Stinney's assigned counsel was a tax commissioner who didn't challenge any of the police witnesses to his confession, and at no point was any physical evidence tying Stinney to the scene provided. There's no written transcript of the trial, and no appeals were filed. I can't figure out exactly what day he was convicted, but suffice to say with only 83 days in the entire window it's not likely he had much time between conviction and execution. Looks like the trial was either April 23 or 24 1944. pookel posted:I'm pretty sure the Jim Crow era is a fertile field of horrible stories that this thread has not explored in much depth yet. Just find some old southern newspaper archives and look for lynching articles. Lynching wasn't uncommon in any part of the country, but the south lusted for it.
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This photo won the Pulitzer Prize that year, taken by an amateur photographer. The jumper, Daisy McCumber, lived.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Yeah, it's weird how dopaminergic neurons in the nigrostriatal pathway are prone to just loving up in strange, permanent and horrifying ways. People sometimes get a permanent movement disorder called Tardive dyskinesia from antipsychotics and Phenergan. It's only brought up briefly in Love and Mercy, but part of what saved Brian Wilson was that his tardive dyskinesia symptoms were spotted by a Beach Boys fans/counselor named Peter Reum. Reum was able to use connections to convince his family of its seriousness, eventually freeing Wilson from Eugene Landy's care.
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You wouldn't imagine that a story about a newborn baby left in a plastic bag in a graveyard would be a palate cleanser. But it is  .
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Cold Case Files was my show. Little Girl Lost was the one that stuck with me. Folks digging around a house in Chicago came across a child's body. After a lot of dead ends, they figured out the child's name - Holly Blake - and that the mother abused and eventually killed her. Holly's brother had been so young, he didn't remember having a sister. There was another case on the show where the mother had murdered one of twins. The surviving brother didn't remember his twin, either, until relatives started asking him about her. Her body was in a suitcase that was hidden in a closet.
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WickedHate posted:The ghost episode(s?) scared the poo poo out of me as a kid and I feel like if I went back to Unsolved Mysteries now I'd be really disappointed because they'd mostly if not all be fairly boring mundane cases. Lifetime used to show a handful of them, re-narrated by Dennis Farina. Yeah, they're pretty mundane. I was also freaked out by the ghost episodes as a child. Farina was awful as narrator. There were a handful that were genuinely disturbing, like the Timothy Good case. Antivehicular posted:Watching Unsolved Mysteries as a child made me wonder if I was secretly adopted. The whole concept was ludicrous on its face (I look like a female clone of my father with my mom's hair color, so my biological parentage is in no way in doubt), but I guess that show convinced me that there were just secret adoptions going around all the time, like some weird baby-swapping ring? I'm not sure I even knew any kids who were actually adopted at that point, so the entire concept was kind of in the UFOs-and-ghosts zone. Unsolved Mysteries aired at least two stories of black market baby selling: one by Ethel Nation and the Georgia Tann/Tennessee Children's Home Society case. With help of a corrupt judge, Tann spent 30 years selling infants and small children for profit. Tennessee eventually began investigating and admitted the money part of the scheme, but managed to hush up that Tann straight up kidnapped children off the streets and told parents their newborn children were dead.
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Was a woman murdered by her spouse or accidentally shot and killed by her 6-year-old son? Thanks to shoddy original police work and the husband now being dead, it's likely the truth will never be known. The son, now grown up, thinks he did it .
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Though that banishment is for Douglas County, Georgia does not allow for statewide banishment. You can be banned from 158 of the 159 counties. In that scenario, the courts will permit someone to live in Echols County. Echols, which has 4,000 people, does not have any stoplights or incorporated cities. I don't think the county has a doctor's office or restaurant, even fast food. As of the last article I read about state banishments, no one had ever taken up the offer to live in Echols. Despite that, Echols was not thrilled of its status of being the one open county.
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whiteyfats posted:More female serial killers. I've never known quite what to make of the Tinning case. Obvious mental illness on her part, but the husband's detachment from all of it. Also, Anjette Lyles. The City Confidential piece on her case can be found on YouTube. Nannie Doss. Amy Archer-Gilligan. Alas, the true crime book about her, The Devil's Rooming House, is one of the worst books I have ever read.
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whiteyfats posted:What was wrong with the book? Very poorly edited. The author spends a whole lot of time on a heat wave that at best should be a passing mention to give flavor to the area. It had nothing to do with the murders. Loads of editorializing. I remember a passage from the trial that was included. The next paragraph was simply an italicized "Liar." And for some reason it bugged me that the author used the phrase "lawyered up" when he was attempting to be quite serious. The Goodreads reviews sum up all the issues quite well.
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Finding Lisa: A story of murders, mysteries, loss, and, incredibly, new life: A handyman and single dad releases his young daughter to live with another family because he can't care for her. Turns out that he's been molesting her. Turns out he's not her biological father. Turns out he's likely murdered her mother. Turns out he's a serial killer. Turns out that his true identity is still unknown. There is somewhat of a happy ending for the daughter, who's able to find some of her real family.
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The aftermath of a school shooting in Townville, S.C. that killed a 6-year-old and its effects on his classmates. quote:The school, scheduled to resume classes the next day, hosted an open house that afternoon. No one knew how the kids would react, but Fredericks, the principal, believed the small step of a brief return might help with the big step of a permanent one. In Townville, where nearly 7 in 10 of the school’s students live in poverty, it wasn’t viable to construct a new building or bus them elsewhere.
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