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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Fried Chicken posted:

please continue booze suggestions here

drink it, don't talk about it

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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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ufarn posted:

Taibbi also, you know, published a book that he's been promoting everywhere outside SA.

Yeah he's all over NPR for example.

SnowblindFatal posted:

As a newcomer, I find it hilarious that the whole first page of USA politics thread is just full of booze talk. You guys really have lost hope, haven't you?

I laugh at the suffering of liquor snobs.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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I don't think the finance high-flyers and socialites in American Psycho are yuppies. They're at the top, not moving towards it.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Bunleigh posted:

How do there still exist people who pay even a cursory level of attention to current events and can't tell Republicans are the problem? I'm not talking about the twisted hate-golems that make up the actual right wing base, I mean just regular-rear end well-meaning folks who fret about how dysfunctional everything is and believe the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just really can't believe anyone who isn't fully invested in the right-wing worldview can still at this point fail to recognize the reality they're living in.

Check into this very forum on any debate about drone strikes, the death penalty, austerity, welfare etc. You don't have to be a Republican to be stupid and vindictive.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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If Lloyd Blankfein's throat was cut, populist bloodlust would be appeased for 2 days, then rise again, says Bill.

I don't understand the problem. Aren't there a lot of bankers? That's a lot of days of appeasement.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Luigi Thirty posted:

So what's the difference between Freepers posting about keeping powder dry and how the revolution will start any day now and our current conversation

Correct opinions?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Tharizdun posted:

the people we fantasize about dying horrible public deaths actually are fuckers who deserve it?

It's always hilarious when somebody mistakes moderate tone for a value.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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ErIog posted:

These two posts have convinced me we need a currency based on the lead standard.

I already have a great deal of this currency. :getin:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Hahaha I'd never actually heard him talk. :lol:

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

You're fantasizing about directing violence at people you politically disagree with. Freep does the very same. It's not complicated, and there isn't any out you can give for it. It's disgusting no matter who does it.

I don't need an out, I have correct opinions and bankers are very bad. It's ok to make jokes about killing them. Bill Clinton, your centrist lord, did.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Spatula City posted:

It's a nice fantasy to imagine rich evil fuckers dying horribly, but in reality it would accomplish nothing. I try to be a pragmatic progressive/semi-socialist, and that entails recognizing that what's emotionally satisfying is often unworkable in the real world.
Plus, Clinton is right. We start killing bankers, and not one, or even a hundred will sate the bloodlust in the public once it gets going. Slippery slope, my friends. Slippery slope.

You're right, before you know it you've got thousands and thousands of dead bankers! What then? Not paradise, let me assure you.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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I was all set to be a progressive and then you guys said mean stuff about bankers :qq: It's the GOP for me, I'm afraid.

Beamed posted:

I can't believe Republicans think Obama was illegitimately elected!!! Now let me tell you how Bush stole Ohio...

Biiig difference.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

Interesting. Did you do anything in the time since regarding financial regulations, legislation, etc?

"Do anything?" Who the gently caress do you think we are, Tim Geithner?

e: Tim Geithner's anguished though

quote:

“Our job was to fix it, not to make people like us.” Later, though, he softened and qualified the statement. :qq: “I’m human, and I like to be liked,” :qq: he said, “even if I didn’t expect to be liked in this.”

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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

No blame - I'm more curious if feeling the effects of the recession manifests itself as latent ill-will toward a relatively vague group ("the bankers")

It's not a vague group, it's just a bigger group than makes you comfortable.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

I don't think you know what people who work at banks do.

Do you think we are talking about tellers here?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

Who are you talking about? M&A? Brokers? I can't seem to figure it out, which is why "Kill all bankers" is ridiculous even without considering the hypocrisy.

Anyone in finance that makes over the SS tax cap should be forced to work as a Wal-Mart greeter until the people's council has determined that they're fit to rejoin society. The people's Wal-Mart, of course.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

The threat of violence in a developed first world nation is essentially neutered. You're not going to see a violent, anti-finance revolution within your lifetime.

Then why waste time complaining? Do you think a banker is going to read this and come pat you on the head?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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On Terra Firma posted:

You're missing the point. Kill all the bankers you want, but if you think there aren't more people waiting in the wings to do the exact same thing you're being naive.

Waiting in the wings for Bill Clinton to cut their throats in an alley?

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

That is an insane thing to think.

Have you ever been this upset about how murderers and rapists are punished? Because the financial crimes that led to the collapse are much more heinous.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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DynamicSloth posted:

Can we just stop pretending like Rand Paul is a real, grown up politician soon?

Well he's grown up anyway. Not too many kids need wigs.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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jonjonaug posted:

John Boehner's official twitter account just posted...I don't even know what to call this.



Look how happy they all are to be investigating the deaths of four Americans.

I always have an urge to put half a lemon on top of Trey Gowdy's head, but I don't want whatever he uses in his hair in my lemonade.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Fried Chicken posted:

But don't worry, some loving teabaggers are going to see a little poor kid wearing discounted Nikes and raise a poo poo fit, and we'll make it even worse.

gently caress I need a drink.

You know it's funny, when kids come into our shelter they usually have a zillion pairs of shoes, mostly Nikes and other brand name stuff. They either treat them carefully and keep them clean in their boxes (these are mostly the hip hop kids) or they just smoosh them into a garbage bag along with all their other poo poo when they have to move to another shelter.

There are always shoes to give away. I always wonder why people don't think "I wonder what that kid has besides the clothes he is wearing?"

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Evil Sagan posted:

What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996.

It was uh, it was something I did in 2000.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Arglebargle III posted:

It's depressing that even Bill Clinton is going after the straw man of "kill the bankers" when the actual argument is "prosecute even one banker, pretty please."

But if a banker is prosecuted and goes to prison, then people will develop an appetite for justice! I mean thirst for blood!

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Job Truniht posted:

All the Democrats have to campaign on is "there will be another shutdown if you continue to elect these people".

Nobody remembers the shutdown now, let alone in 6 months.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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USPol: where the unfit try to cop out of life.


"A liberal defeatist mentality is bound to cop out."


"It really shouldn't be too surprisin', with the cultural mentality that isn't valuing life, that defeatocrats want to cop out. Without Our Lord Jesus Christ, what's the reason for staying alive over there?"


"It's not surprising at all. If only I weren't so much smarter and more likable than you, copout liberals."


"HEE HEE HEE HEE COP OUT SO I CAN GOVERN YOUR FAMILY."


"Cop out, civilians; my rehabilitation's coming, and there's no need for you to stick around and witness it."


"According to this teleprompter, I've already got all I need from you, lefty. Cop out."

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Prester John posted:

Wow! I really appreciate you recognizing me and asking. Well, my situation is complicated but my life is much better now. I'm out of the shelter and living with some friends in an apartment now. My only source of income is food stamps and 60 bucks a week from donating plasma, so things are kind of tight but I'm managing. My place is quiet, my roomates are actually people I know from PCY so we all kind of "get" how nice it is to live drama free, we have a killer internet connection, and although food is tight at times we still eat everyday. I take the perspective e that for a person in my position I'm living in a relative golden age so I'm pretty happy.

That's awesome! Your write-ups were really good as well, I am always down to read more of them.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:

His face should definitely accompany the entry for Backpfeifengesicht in the dictionary.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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What happened to that other thread that was home to interminable whining and drunkenness? Oh yeah, the Lost Generation thread. Jesus Christ, those of you who survive to reproduce are going to be more insufferable than the boomers. "Degrees don't result in paychecks, I have to network and hustle. No one told me about this. Scandinavia" :qq:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Nessus posted:

My commendations on your wisdom, virtue, and fortune. Are you trying to save souls? Is your testimony here going somewhere, perhaps "these kids should just deal with it?"

Maybe he realizes that systemic fixes aren't in the offing, so it's better to hustle than it is to lie there like a beached whale with a Doctor Who shirt stretched over its helpless form.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Talmonis posted:

Honestly though, do you really not think that's what most of us are doing/have done?

Based on the overall tenor of alcoholism, despair and suicidal ideation in the thread, I wouldn't lay odds.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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When did I say everything will be fixed? Most of us will fail in spite of trying. That doesn't mean you should sit around and not try.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Maybe we should realize that 18 year olds are adults and honestly counsel them that unless they have a full ride or a detailed plan backed up with the ability to follow through, they're better off without the degree and without the debt.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Nessus posted:

The person who you were addressing, it seems, had already gone to graduate school, though it's possible I've conflated posters in my head.
Why are these things mutually exclusive?

I thought he was responding to a poster that seemed to be starting or continuing grad school almost for the sake of deferring loan payment. That would be insane.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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socialsecurity posted:

A less educated populace isn't good for anyone.

Who says that a 22 year old with a BA in English is less educated than a 22 year old tradesperson with 4-6 years of experience?

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Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Stultus Maximus posted:

If it is a proper liberal arts program, the 22 year old with a BA in English will have more education than a 22 year old tradesperson who has only studied his limited field.

How classist.

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Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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The Warszawa posted:

The College Republican argument is that there are no issues with the system to be fixed, SedanChair seems to be arguing that the system isn't getting fixed any time soon and thus it is better to have hustled and fallen short than to sink into despair and ennui.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOKsOveYD0

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Talmonis posted:

They really should be though. This country is very heavily armed, and has easy access to a variety of volitile chemicals. The homegrown terror that kind of mass unemployment would cause could make the entirety of middle eastern terrorism look like disneyland by comparison. At present, the elite don't hide in fortified bunkers to escape the masses. That would have to change, if they expect to get away with it.

Seriously though, why would you want to turn the country into the kind of stratified hellscape of the third world? It seems like it'd be much more comfortable to just be rich somewhere the people don't want to kill you if they get a chance.

It's slightly more profitable in the short term to destroy America, and the PMCs you hire to guard your compound will have more practice time in with their M4s than Jobless Joe Sixpack. Revolt ain't happening, and outbursts of murder and spree killing won't affect the wealthy. Or:

AstheWorldWorlds posted:

Now that I think about it they probably shouldn't be scared. Unorganized mobs of people are more dangerous to each other than elites.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Talmonis posted:

You're right about organized leftism. The issue is though, how little preparation and organization that crazy people with a grudge require to do serious damage. McVeigh murdered 168 people with a van and some fertalizer. Being a mustache twirling overlord with a huge guarded compound in this country seems like a gigantic bullseye for nutcases to me.

Edit: To be clear, this is not something that I endorse or agree with, just that I predict that sort of thing will happen if conditions worsen enough.

The Murrah building was required to provide services. Compounds aren't, so it's much easier to control access and secure them.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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Nessus posted:

This seems to place the power in the hands of the security personnel. That seems familiar somehow.

Yes it's bog standard security that's been practiced since the days of walled cities?

A Winner is Jew posted:

Jesus loving christ!

Is that really what it's like out there? I mean even in 2008 when there were literally no jobs in my industry (engineering construction with no degree) at the most it would only be like 90 days between being laid off because a project was put on hold / canceled and finding a new one. Yeah every one of those jobs was at least a 15%-30% pay cut over what I should have been / was making at the time but god drat that's just pathetic.

Assuredly, everyone is auditioning for jobs where they'll lose money in the hopes that someday, their signals will be adequate to earn a real job.

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Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
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tbp posted:

I've said the same thing before and you've gone to the ends of the earth to call me a Republican because of it. Weird, huh?

The difference is, I'm not a Republican.

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