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Fix posted:Hey, what was the chariot that had all the problems? The Burning Chariot because the passenger fires the weapons (as opposed to the actual Chariot firing them) and they are both Heavy and one is a Template so if the Chariot moves at all the passenger is unable to shoot one and has to snap fire the other. The only way to fix this is to make the passenger Relentless or move the weapons to part of the Chariot's weaponry. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 24, 2014 |
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Fix posted:*Chariot poo poo* That's pretty cool although still incredibly embarrassing it took them this long to fix that. I wonder if shooty chariots will be something that pops up in the DE and Necron codexes.
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Hollismason posted:Walkers also get Hammer of Wrath now, they did lose the free pivot and have to pay attention to fire arcs. Is HoW still just unmodified S: User AP-?
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Crazy Ferret posted:Thanks for this! Shame about the hellhound but its manageable. Assign each member a number and roll a D10.
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Hollismason posted:The juries still out on this one , but I think if you sumon a Daemon Squad with a instrument you automatically also get to bring in any unit that has the Daemon tie in from reserve automatically. This can be done on the first turn... like I said it's funky. Demonic Instruments only activate if the unit carrying it passes it's reserve roll (the Daemon codex specifically says "...successfully passes it's reserve roll") and the unit you want to come in automatically hasn't rolled for reserves yet. This particular instrument effect isn't usable on summoned Daemon units afaik. Also, as far as I can tell, nowhere does it say a summoned Daemon unit gets any sort of upgrades. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 26, 2014 |
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Hollismason posted:Like I said it's funky the actual Conjure Daemons spell actually says : It may have arrived from Reserves for all rule purposes but you never rolled a dice for it to arrive so, strict RAW, instruments don't work in this instance. Personally I'm strongly leaning towards the clarification that "is treated as having arrived from Reserves for all rules purposes" is stated in order to stop summoned Daemons from assaulting the same turn they arrive because, according to GW, that is literally the worst possible thing that could ever happen in the game. "When a unit with an Instrument of Chaos in Deep Strike reserve successfully passes its Reserve Role, you can also choose another unit. This must be a unit that: is entirely composed of models with the Daemon special rule, is still in Deep Strike reserve, has yet to make a reserve roll this turn" (p.64 Daemon Codex). Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 26, 2014 |
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Post 9-11 User posted:So, the moral of the story is that Moola must set aside the emotions of regret and empathy and be like a true predator in the swamp? I haven't checked Ebay for Daemons in a while but last time I checked (which was long before 7e rumors) 2nd hand Plaguebearers were REALLY uncommon and pretty close to normal retail price mainly because they're a very strong unit in-game and I expect they will be even less common now even if their "Stealth Grenades" turned into Blind Grenades. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 09:08 on May 26, 2014 |
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:Please help, I have no idea what I'm doing. Trying to put together a 1000 point list of Blood Angels, here is what I have so far: Just start playing, you'll learn what's good and what isn't. BA is firmly planted in the "fine for casual games" tier but they are pretty low overall. Don't actually put your Dev Squad in the Razorback though. Just park the Devs in some ruins and leave them there for the game, there's nothing worse than having to spend a turn snap firing your heavy weapons and 48" weapon range means they should be able to hit just about anything on the table without moving. DC Dreads without Drop Pods are almost useless; you're going to want to bring some Drop Pods. Melee Dreads are just awful if you have to walk across the table. The Death Company unit really needs at least 2 power weapons, even if that means cutting the unit down a bit, DC without power weapons are just a lot of attacks, DC with power weapons are pure death. You might also want to consider splitting into 2 units of 5 DC in Rhinos if you decide to drop a DC Dread that way you can engage multiple units, even a few power weapon DC can absolutely wreck most units if they can get the charge off and 10 DC is a lot of overkill in most situations. Meph is way too expensive for 1000 points; take a Librarian or a Chaplain and group up with a DC unit. LingcodKilla posted:Well one more marine to absorb a wound in the devastor group would be the first thing I'd do. That already exists, it's the Sargent. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 26, 2014 |
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HiveCommander posted:Better still; Bloodcrushers Only "Infantry" (not including Jump/Jetpack) can get in transports unfortunately, I assume this still applies in 7e. Nothing would please me more than 5 Bikes flying out of a Land Raider Crusader but it's not allowed.
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Hollismason posted:I think Flying Monstrous Creatures count as very bulky. I'm not sure but there is some other weird rule that makes it so that they can't do that.You can't start in Dedicated Transports but you can start a Space Marine squad in reserve in a Valkryie I think. Dark Eldar have to loan out their transports to Banshees , so they can charge people. Why would Scarabs be scoring? Does Swarms not exist anymore? The stupid local GW store didn't receive my rulebook shipment when I went there on Saturday so I'm stuck here like a non-7e having peasant until like Wednesday.
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Hollismason posted:Eldar have to be really happy now that they have a vehicle that can turn into a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh. Jets turning into Daemons sounds cool as gently caress. Where and what are you reading regarding BA? The only non-IC HQs in BA are Mephiston, DC Tycho and The Sanguinor. Are all "Characters" just "Independent Characters" now? Because just based on the FAQ it seems like it turned every IC into a Character and now none of them can join units. Hollismason posted:That Nightbringerofdoom or something like that the one flyer they have I think. BA has always had access to those BRB powers. Whether or not you counted Furioso Librarians as being "Librarians" in terms of the game rules has always been a bit of a debate: they are Librarians in the fluff and have Librarian in their name but some people think they didn't get access to the BRB powers but the BRB powers sucked on Furioso Librarians anyways. Having a 5+ cover save in your opponent's shooting phase and being able to move 12" in your movement phase has always been the best option for them. Now that might change but being able to move 12" at a time is still really powerful. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 23:46 on May 27, 2014 |
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Hollismason posted:I think that's what that means now. Although gonan laugh sohard if it's the opposite. It just says (Character). So I think that's it's type or something let me look. I wish I had the new rulebook to check these things but apparently, according to GW, "pre-order and pick it up in-store on release day" actually means "get it sometime next week maybe, I don't know; thanks for the money". VVVVVVVVVVV That makes sense although I really hope they make The Sanguinor an IC or at least able to join Sanguinary Guard in their new codex. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 23:53 on May 27, 2014 |
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Direwolf posted:How were wave serpents nerfed? No more free 5+ cover save just for moving a Skimmer. Jink is now a thing you have to elect before your opponent starts rolling to-hit, in the same vein as FMCs "diving" or whatever it's called. Also I think after you Jink you have to snap fire everything for the next turn? Wave Serpents are still really good though, they got knocked back because of the change to Jink but they got bumped up because of the change to the vehicle pen chart. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:04 on May 29, 2014 |
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  Just "finished" my friend's 2nd Monolith he gave me free rein to paint. Pretty easy and enjoyable to paint overall; painted with sponges for the first time and pretty much just jumped in by doing a test paint on one of the gun arrays. Made the gold paint from scratch from VMA Aluminum and Daler Rowney FW Burnt Umber Ink. I know it really needs some wash on the gold in the recesses and then a dry brush of a lighter gold on the edges but I'm kinda burned out doing any more painting on it right now; I've been powering through it for the past 3 days that way it would be done by Saturday when my group will be playing. I also got to test the light box I built. I might adapt the sponge painting for my Blood Angels because I can't stand painting solid red and every time I try to get back to them I end up disappointed.
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Post 9-11 User posted:That's one of the most unique Monolith paint jobs I have ever seen. The gold is flawless, I wondered for a moment if you used craft foil instead of paint. My first impression is, "Las Vegas retirement condo decor," though. Thanks! The gold is quite garish right now but I think it's because it lacks depth, it does just look like cheap gold paint without any shading. I'll probably end up giving it a wash later today. The entire model was just a test of skills to see if I could actually do sponge painting; the gold was just a happy accident, more or less.
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So it's a bit unclear from my first read-through but I think my suspicions are right: did the new FAQs just change Grey Knights and Blood Angels so they lose all their 5e Codex powers and can only roll (or are automatically given) powers from the 7e Rule Book?
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PantsOptional posted:Dumb question time, this time about Transports and the effects of damage on passengers: According to P.82, as far as I can tell, the passengers only take one LD test even if you roll multiple Shaken/Stunned/Weapon Destroyed/Immobilized. "At the end of a phase in which a vehicle sustains one or more of these damage results, the passengers must take a Leadership test. If the test is passed, the unit is unaffected". Also if the Transport gets say, a Shaken and an Explodes!, as far as I can see you would do the LD test for the Shaken and the LD test for Pinning as they have somewhat differing effects. It doesn't say anywhere that you just resolve the highest "damaging" effect on the Pen Chart, you have to resolve all of them at the same time because the effect from Wrecked/Explodes! is different from Shaken/Stunned/Weapon Destroyed/Immobilized. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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S.J. posted:Holy poo poo you guys. Games Workshop sent us a preview Gorka/Morkanaut box to open and show to people. My friends and I have been casually arguing about this: What size is the base? Is it a Flyer Oval or an Imperial Knight Superheavy Oval? Also (whenever it actually gets built) how tall does it stand compared to other large models like Dreadknights/Riptides/FHTs/Etc? Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Sephyr posted:Ok, am I missing something or did they remove the Rending effect from Sniper weapons in the new book? I can't find mention of it. Sniper weapons don't have Rending (or Pinning) anymore. They have a special effect very similar to, but not quite, Rending. Go read the rule entry for Sniper and then read the rule entry for Rending. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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krushgroove posted:Than for the tips guys, great info! I'm definitely getting a couple of Exocrines at some point, for now proxying them with Chaos Forgefiends Don't forget about Carnifexes. My best A-T comes from a full unit of 2x TL-BL Dev Carnifexes. 36 TL BS3 S6 shots will just shred anything AV12 or under with ease. Then, off the charge, you have 3D3 S9 AP- auto-hits from HoW hitting the front armor and 12 S9 AP2 hits on the back armor which will do some serious damage against most "normal" AV13/AV14 vehicles. Land Raiders and Monoliths will be toughest to crack seeing as you're relying purely on 5s/6s but against Leman Russes/Battlewagons/Predators/etc you can get a few glances or maybe even a Pen or two off the HoW and then finish the vehicle off with their regular attacks. I think I might try switching one pair of TL-BL Devs for Crushing Claws next time I play Tyranids. Smash isn't necessary at all if you're S10 AP2 Armorbane. The biggest issue is they are incredibly slow so you might have to spend a turn or two moving and running before you start doing damage. It's not optimal but there's not that many choices for Tyranid A-T. Carnifexes are officially  though so they are pretty much auto-include in all my lists.
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Thundercracker posted:Can Chaos Marine ICs attach to Daemons now in 7th? No, Daemonic Instability completely blocks CSM and Daemon ICs from joining each other's units. Daemons can get in CSM Rhinos and Landraiders now though which is kinda cool but not really game breaking. xtothez posted:Normally yes, thanks to Battle Brothers. However the Daemonic Instability rule doesn't allow IC's to join a daemon unit unless they also have that rule. I guess you could argue that Daemon ICs can join CSM units, but not the other way around. It's not even arguable. You can't. Daemonic Instability: Cannot join (or be joined by) models without this special rule; automatically pass Fear, Pinning and Morale tests. (p.104 CD codex) Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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Get wrecked Daemon summoning. I played my first gave of 7e, 1500 points, Big Guns Never Tire, using Psyker Heavy Daemons with 12 MLs worth of dice (Kairos, ML2 HoS, ML3 HoT, 16 Pink Horrors) vs. Necrons and I'm kind of on the fence about it, specifically the Psychic Phase. It was difficult enough remembering to do everything with Daemons before and now I have to stop and weigh the pros/cons of of how many dice to use and trying to remember to look for the new Perils. It just felt like the game ran super long for 1500 points. Highlight of the game, throwing 7 dice at a 3WC Flickering Fire at a game deciding clutch moment and only one die coming out 4+. I'll reserve judgement after I get some more games in (both with Daemons and Tyranids) because I went all in with Psykers and kinda got wrecked because I didn't have any assault worthy FMCs and playing Dawn of War doesn't benefit Daemons when your opponent brings tons of Wraiths and Scarabs and my Pink Horrors got caught in assault on turn 3 and then I rolled double 6's for DI which made the unit implode. I know everybody loves Kairos (and for good reason) but every time I field him he never does as much work as an S8 LoC. I think the biggest revelation I got out of the game was that while I had fun, it wasn't relaxing at all trying to remember everything so I think my next project needs to be a boring move and shoot army, no crazy special rules or tons of Psyker stuff to deal with. Probably a pure shooting focused Eldar army with some rad as hell Jetbikes and Vypers and poo poo. Also I just realized my friend had 3 units of Scarabs and 1 unit of Wraiths. More than likely just an accident but still, that would have completely changed the game as he assault intercepted my Outflanking Seekers (which was going to wipe out a 10 man Warrior unit on an Objective) with a unit of Scarabs that wouldn't have been there if the list was legal. Oh well. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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DJ Dizzy posted:What is the worst unit in the IG codex? I am going to be participating in an extremely low power campaign, and my current model selection doesn't really allow that. Hydras in the absence of Flyers/Skimmers, Rough Riders, or Wyrdvane Psykers that aren't being used to summon Daemons. Rough Riders might be the worst.
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Drake_263 posted:Made up a new version of the list I played with last night: It used to be in 6e that you had to have 50% of your units on the table at the start of the game, save for units that must always start in Reserve like flyers, drop pods, etc; those units aren't included as part of the 50%. I can't find anywhere in the 7e rulebook though that states an exact number/percentage or that this limitation even exists anymore. The only thing it says is "When deploying their armies, players can choose not to deploy some of their units, keeping them as Reserves to arrive later" (p.135). So I guess some implies you can't reserve your entire army but it's also not defined as a specific number or percentage? There's no separation between "models that must start in reserve" and "models that can start in reserve" for purposes of deployment anymore. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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Direwolf posted:Move through cover now works during the movement and the assault phases, as opposed to just the movement. During normal you roll an extra d6 to see how far you go, and you ignore penalties during the assault phase, and you ignore dangerous terrain tests. I think the problem is that Super Heavy Walkers move like Walkers, so they take difficult/dangerous terrain tests when a normal Walker would because normal Walkers move like basic Infantry. However SHWs move 12". Move Through Cover just gives you 1 extra dice when determining how far you can move through difficult terrain and removes the -2" modifier when you assault through difficult/dangerous terrain. So for SHWs do you still do 3D6 take highest meaning they can only move 6" through terrain? Do you do 3D6 take two highest? Do you base it off inches moved so if 6" is 3D6 take 1 highest does 12" become 6D6 take 2 highest? Beasts, Cavalry and Jump units just plain ignore the effects of Difficult Terrain so the "3D6 take one highest" for movement doesn't effect their 12" move. Do Super Heavy Walkers still get dropped to I1 for having to charge through difficult terrain? Imperial Knights don't have assault grenades and MTC doesn't change the Initiative drop. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jun 12, 2014 |
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TheChirurgeon posted:I agree--those look great, and you should make your own chapter. On that note, I finished my second tactical squad! Heavy Bolters are the coolest of the heavy weapons.
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Ratflinger posted:I am on the fence regarding a new necron codex. The current one is so full of cheesy crap that makes the people you play furious. Crap like almost free mindshackle scarabs, annihilation barges, wraiths and night scythes will most likely have to go. On the other hand if you make the cheap/unfair stuff really expensive or make it go away you are left with a pretty lovely codex. There is a reason the almost never used units are almost never used. A lot of it is bad, it is just not that the really good stuff is a little better. All of those models have recent, great looking, plastic kits. They aren't going to just vanish. They all need a points increase though. Shackles can only get a points increase, if they made them worse like going to a normal LD test, they wouldn't be worth taking. They were clearly written with challenges in mind but they are too good for 15 points. They probably also need to be restricted to Overlords and D. Lords as well. Business Gorillas posted:Is a CSM Tzeentch/Tzeentch Daemons army gonna be any good if I actually do this terrible hobby? I play a balanced all gods Daemons army and I would really suggest not jumping in all the way with them right away. If you really wanted to, I would suggest CSM main with a Tzeentch ally or do a 50/50 split. Daemons can be really drat good depending on if you want to push Daemon Summoning to the point of game breaking. They are also a serious nightmare to play sometimes, trying to remember everything you have to do, everything you have to roll, depending on entirely random rolls for psyker powers and rewards, balancing your warp charges (which will disappear faster than people think) and also trying to remember and learn the main rules of the game can get a bit overwhelming and frustrating sometimes. Also even though they can be a really powerful army supported by psyker powers, they are still an assault based army with very little non-psyker shooting and shooting is still king of the hill. 7e didn't really change anything to make assault any better than it was in 6e. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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Daedleh posted:"Unit Composition: 1 Gorkanaught" It's probably 37 to accommodate some gear options that are 1/2/3 points that way you come out with a nice even number in the end. Also every "new" codex has had equipment lists both for vehicles and infantry. That's how they handle army wide equipment instead of listing every gear option on every unit entry over and over again. ThNextGreenLantern posted:Is there any sensible way to have a free-for-all with three players? It seems like we would be better off having 2-on-1 games with each side having the same total points to work with. My brother and his friend want to play some 40k, but I'm the one who knows the rules and has all the actual 40k stuff, so my options are awkward 3 player games or they play while I act as ref. The best way to do it is 2v1, 2k pts vs. 1k/1k or whatever points variation you like. You also have to split the 2 player teams FOC though, or double up the 2k player's (if you have enough models to double FOC). Otherwise the single man will end up at a pretty big disadvantage when the other side rolls out like 12 Troops or 6 Heavy options. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:Played 1,000 points of Necrons vs Tau. Tau won, but man I had a good time. Scarabs are already mega assholes and they get even worse with Spyders around. I always try and pack some kind of S6 AP 4 template weapon just to wipe them out because they can tarpit units for a very long time if you can't ID them and they have enough attacks even at S3 to be a serious threat to most units. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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CyberLord XP posted:Apparently nothing can make anything else troops now. No dreads/MANz/Nobz/bikes as troops. Slimnoid posted:"Just play Unbound" *wet fart* This is when I'm glad I have a good group of friends to play with. Marbo gone? Not anymore! Want your Bike Warboss to make Ork Bikes troops? Sure, no problem! Some of the changes the newer codexes received are just dumb and I don't really like anything that restricts the game solely because "We don't want to make that model anymore". Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 22, 2014 |
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Swagger Dagger posted:Literally all of these things will come out as dataslates I absolutely believe it.
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Von Humboldt posted:Wonky rules situation - I think you're correct? If you compare the paragraphs for "Hard to Hit" between Swooping FMCs and Zooming Flyers it specifically states anything that doesn't roll to hit can't hit Zooming Flyers; that distinction isn't made for Swooping FMCs. The reason is probably exactly for that; so FMCs can fight each other with their Templates and Blasts. The chances of something with a Template/Blast/L.Blast also getting Skyfire (if it couldn't already get it like the Riptide) is pretty slim as far as I can tell.
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ThNextGreenLantern posted:I'm putting together a Blood Angels list right now and I was wondering: Is a Power Fist worth it on an Assault Sergeant? Hell, for 5 points more I could give him 2 Infernus pistols. I was considering just giving my Sergeants Melta Bombs. No. Go with a Powersword; Powermaul isn't a bad choice as you'll be S6 (or S7 on the charge) AP4 which will just ruin most Xenos' days. A basic ASM squad is going to fold against 2+ armor most of the time so having a lone Power Fist (or Axe) isn't really worth it. Double Infernus/Plasma Pistol is kinda cool both because you get to make a rad as hell model and that model can fire both pistols in a single turn which means 4 Melta shots (although the 2D6 pen range gets kinda wonky) or up to 6 Plasma shots if you're in Rapid Fire range.
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Ignite Memories posted:It seems like i'm not in horrendous shape, because I had already taken a lot of the terrible units from the last codex that I liked converting. So I've already got tankbustas and stormboyz and flash gitz... But if I had a deff rolla-based army or a bunch of converted cyborks I would be pretty pissed right now. You generate your powers before you start playing Turn 1 or in the case of summoned Daemons, right after they have been summoned (if I remember correctly). Once you generate powers that's what you have for the rest of the game unless you have some special rules or gear that allow you to pick and choose or randomly generate powers each turn. Unless you're specifically talking about the Ork Codex in which case I don't know I haven't been following those rumors.
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ANAmal.net posted:*pictures* Man, I need more terrain. This poo poo looks great even unpainted; the designs on those modular City kits are awesome. Also Landspeeders are 100% supercool and now I'm probably going to end up getting 3 for my BA army. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Safety Factor posted:Land speeders are great. Typhoons are probably my favorite though. They've got good firepower and long range and can engage just about any target. They can just sit outside of small arms range and can be surprisingly survivable with jink. I've thought about running some assault cannon tornadoes, but I'm not sure if they're worth it in comparison. They'd have to get within bolter range. I'm a huge fan of a full unit of 2x Heavy Bolter Speeders. They are pure anti-infantry but 18 S5 AP4 36" shots, 48" really because they are Fast vehicles, just obliterates infantry units while staying pretty much out of harms way. Plus they are absolutely dirt cheap. I like filling out my Fast Attack with 2 Shooty Baal Predators and a full 2xHB Landspeeder unit and just creating a huge infantry denial area. Now that vehicles score all the time that combo just became that much better. The only problem is I don't have any space for my Multi-Melta Attack Bike unit. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jun 30, 2014 |
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Monoliths posted:Counterpoint: chaos daemons. Just be like me and always forget about it (along with Soulfire, Warpflame, Fear and HoW) and then write it down on a white board in huge capital letters and still forget to roll it. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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Monoliths posted:Hah, already there with you! Last game was shameful, I was like 1 turn for 6. I really need to try and remember Fear. It will barely every come into play as most of the time I'm going against army wide Necron LD10/Fearless or ATSKNF but WS1 against Daemons means hitting on 5+ pretty much all the time against the units that actually matter in Assault. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jul 3, 2014 |
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Actually, I lied! I just read this week's White Dwarf and there's the formation that's perfect for you! How does this work exactly with Blast/L. Blast weapons? Do you just count those guns as completely Twin-Linked? P.158 states how you resolve the ability to re-roll To Hit with "blast" weapons but PE is a re-roll with stipulations. I'm not complaining either way but I feel like they should have taken 20 seconds to specify how PE and Blast weapons interact in the Rulebook. Even without a re-roll To-Hit, being able to re-roll To-Wounds of 1 is pretty strong for LRs considering their weapon strength. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:PE re-rolls TH/TWs of 1 and Blast weapons don't roll To Hit. I cited the page that states how re-roll To-Hit and Blast weapons interact. MasterSlowPoke posted:Blasts only need the possibility of a reroll to be rerolled, so it's not quite as cut and dry. It's a big dumb question that I really hoped 7th would solve. There's no good answer and it's best to leave it at that. There's ten page threads on Dakka if you want to read more. Yeah it's not a super huge issue to me although the lack of clarification is annoying and also par for the course; I think my group just plays it as a complete re-roll. It's just one of those issues that can change a cool effect to something incredibly powerful based on how you play it. Pacheeco fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Jul 6, 2014 |
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