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I remember there was a video of a bunch of people who drove the exact speed limit causing people to actually drive off the road to go around them. Everyone was honking, it was pretty funny. I can't find the exact video, but this is basically the same idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoETMCosULQ
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Solkanar512 posted:I've seen that video. Backing up traffic so that the chance of accidents are increased or emergency vehicles are hindered is hilarious! Wouldn't that be the fault of the law (speed limit)
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Jul 16, 2014 23:20
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It's our (people's) fault. There are many cases where DAs can't even get out of a grand jury with solid video evidence of police misconduct. This leads to much more cautious prosecution. Which leads to police believing that it's better to err on the side of more force/control.
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Jul 17, 2014 17:27
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is it because the DA's office slacks off on cases where the suspect is a police officer, or something else? It's because juries are bad at convicting cops.
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Jul 17, 2014 17:36
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KernelSlanders posted:Because anyone who's had a bad experience with a cop and isn't basically a Cole or Rent-a-Cop from this thread personality wise will get struck from the pool. Also, reasonable doubt applies to police in criminal prosecutions too. These are important safeguards in our criminal justice system, and we probably shouldn't disrupt them. Institutional reform and internal discipline before someone gets killed or injured is probably a better avenue for reform. However, the police departments in question have proved themselves to be completely uninterested in such reform and remarkably resistant to any sort of democratic control. Not disagreeing, but it's usually because of "Just World". Average people don't like to think that police are bad...there must be a reason, any reason, that the police did what they did.
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Jul 17, 2014 20:35
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Yeah, it becomes a combination of "I'm the good guy doing my good work" and "I'm just following orders/the law".
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Jul 25, 2014 13:54
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Does he mean resisting arrest or "resisting arrest"?
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Aug 6, 2014 20:44
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Nah, then it's resisting arrest for disorderly conduct.
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Aug 7, 2014 00:55
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SedanChair posted:So if a cop tries to arrest you for DUI, but you're not drunk, you should be able to gun the cop down and be exonerated? There is already an analog called murder. I'm unsure what the analog for "Non violent resisting arrest" is?
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Aug 7, 2014 02:51
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Trabisnikof posted:So you're saying that if we took away resisting arrest, police would just charge people with assault against a peace officer instead? They don't already? If it's not enough to be assault, I just assumed resisting was used. The few times I've been involved with a resisting arrest charge (not me, but people I was standing with), it seemed to be because the person didn't turn the right way after being struck and knocked down. In fact, some of lawyers straight-up said that an officer is almost forced to add a resisting arrest charge to legitimize the result of a take-down.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:06
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Refusing to be lawfully detained and/or refusing to gently caress off when told to gently caress off basically. FYI, this is what you will be charged with if you don't stop recording them when they tell you to. Basically not following an order by an officer (legal or not) can lead to this.
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Aug 7, 2014 17:23
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Yeah, this guy (who is from Florida) got arrested quite a few times with that charge and IIRC got it thrown out every time. After the first time, he started a blog: http://photographyisnotacrime.com/
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Aug 7, 2014 18:36
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E-Tank posted:I believe that a court recently ruled that cops can't tell people to stop recording them, as it's a demonstration of their First Amendment rights. It's been for a while, but it doesn't stop police from confiscating/erasing/breaking devices, and arresting you for complaining about it. Hell, they sent a SWAT raid to someones house because of it.
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Aug 8, 2014 00:18
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From the other thread:SirKibbles posted:Speaking of Anon that video I posted was of a white guy yelling racial slurs at people cleaning up after the riots you know niggers,go back to africa etc but he posted on his youtube account that was connected to his fb soooooo......
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Aug 12, 2014 21:27
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Trabisnikof posted:And that dispatch tape was for St. Louis county PD not Ferguson PD. Which is hopefully why dispatch learned about the shooting via media reports, but even when St. Louis county called Ferguson PD well after the shooting, Ferguson PD didn't know what was up.... This is exactly what happens when someone is working outside the department to cover something up.
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Aug 14, 2014 20:41
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Obdicut posted:The ACLU isn't silent. They file a ton of briefs on police overrearch every year, including no-knock warrants. I have a feeling the ACLU is going to be VERY busy for the next couple of years or so.
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Aug 16, 2014 15:54
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Funny how people who are not cops, who you would expect to be more affected by a shooting then someone trained, do not get this same consideration.
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Aug 22, 2014 20:22
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DARPA posted:Off duty cop moonlighting as a security guard in a hooded sweatshirt and dark pants with his gun drawn demands a 17 get out of the car. Kid tries to get away and the cop kills him. No indictment. This is my personal fear. Even better: quote:A neighbor who videotaped the shooting said Garza was wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt and dark pants, rather than a uniform, and he said the officer demanded that he delete video or images of the incident from his cell phone. This sounds like someone who knows they done hosed up. LorneReams fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Aug 27, 2014 21:12
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I have to add that I've had personal experiance with this. My wife was coming home from work and in the center of our town, stopped to get gas. It was like 1230am and the only other car in the gas station was a crappy looking Ford Taurus. My wife finishes pumping, pays, and gets into her car. All of a sudden, the car speeds up and pull next to her and a guy in jeans and a t shirt starts screaming at her to open her door. She's like 5'5 and 90lbs and it's 1230, so she speeds the gently caress away. The guy chases her home and as I see he pull in from the window, two police cars follow. I run out, and they are tossing the car and pushing her against the ground. I take two steps out and both cops immediatly pull their guns on me yelling to get down. Of course I drop. Apparently her car matched the decription of one used to rob some drug dealer. The guy who approched her was a plainclothes police officer. He was livid and told my wife that running like that could have gotten her killed. We both filed complaints (no one would give numbers, and it took hours before they uncuffed us) and moved out of the city (and the state!) within 6 months. Sorry, this story just brought all of that back.
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Aug 27, 2014 21:25
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Radish posted:If they were smart they would have just mailed drugs to her house then shot her after she took the package inside. This already happened right (I think they just killed the mayors dogs).
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Nov 7, 2014 19:45
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Cichlid the Loach posted:How would their supervisor not realize for years that half of their unit was literally not producing any reports whatsoever? Because they are doing the same thing?
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Nov 14, 2014 22:22
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:A four hour search that turned up nothing, and no recourse for the victim. (Not me, kid of a friend.) Is that true? I know a couple of cases, and it was covered by insurance who then went after the police and I was led to believe the police's insurance then paid out.
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Dec 3, 2014 19:41
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quote:Right after rookie cop Peter Liang Why do they always need a dozen words to say shot?
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Dec 5, 2014 22:33
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Yeah, you don't want to be shooting at people who break into your house...they could be cops.
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Dec 9, 2014 21:53
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ActusRhesus, have you ever happened to prosecute a police officer for something they did in the line of duty? I'm just curious to see if you have any perspective on that.
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Dec 10, 2014 16:48
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Solkanar512 posted:Wait, aren't gains from illegal operations taxable as well? Or is that some dumb thing you just hear on television? All gains are taxable. To skirt the 5th, there has to be a way to pay those taxes without admitting guilt, so that is what you usually hear about.
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Dec 10, 2014 17:01
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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article1957716.html This was posted on the previous page, but it's a perfect view of what needs to be reformed. A police officer can illegally arrest you on camera, lie about it, get caught lying about it, and then nothing happens except to target you for bringing it up.
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Dec 10, 2014 21:09
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ActusRhesus posted:the bill itself isn't a problem...the steeper penalties for taping law enforcement is the problem. I thought the Supreme Court already ruled on this?
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Dec 11, 2014 12:41
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And the line between police officer and abusive father blurs evermore.
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Jan 8, 2015 16:38
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DARPA posted:Lots of talk about the douches trolling the thread. If there is a lawsuit, won't they be compelled to release the video anyway, or will it be lost by then?
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Jan 13, 2015 16:58
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The whole "Thug attacks metro worker" becoming "Police officer involved in alleged altercation with a metro worker" within an hour on the same mainstream news site broke my mind.
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Jan 23, 2015 19:56
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ImAMinister posted:Hey, there was a really interesting article about a public defender being arrested for defending her client. Can we talk about that instead? Please try to keep this in focus because the police officers who did that need to have their lives ruined to set an example of what not to do.
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Jan 29, 2015 15:54
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GreyPowerVan posted:sedanchair, if you're the victim of a crime and someone is chasing you, do you call your random friend who may not even be in the same city as you right now, or do you call the police? No he hides until the cop stops chasing him.
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Jan 29, 2015 15:59
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ActusRhesus posted:And yes, arresting a PD is generally a completely asinine thing to do. If that happened here, there would be some serious fallout. They're an officer of the court and they are entitled to respect in that role. Would arresting a PD for not allowing his client to answer questions destory whatever case the police were trying to build against the client, or would judges just basically go, world sucks, deal with it.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:01
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Those drat radicals, always doing radical things like showing up at a city hall hearings to discuss oversight. Also, "I am being recorded, but I'm just going to say poo poo that is completly contradicted by the video that is currently recording me! I don't know how video cameras work!"
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Jan 29, 2015 21:45
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Why not have a manual saftey? Something you have to deliberetly click "on" before firing?
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Feb 11, 2015 16:20
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LOL, he was swatted. Make sure you tell your visiting relatives from another country that the US is a police state and that you should avoid leaving your house without an escort or something bad may happen.quote:Madison police issued a statement on Monday saying they received a call early Friday about a man looking in garages among the brick homes just south of the city's new high school. Police are a loaded gun you can point at someone. LorneReams fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Feb 11, 2015 |
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Feb 11, 2015 16:43
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zzyzx posted:With pay would be pretty standard, while the department reviews the audio/video/witness statements and figures out what happened. Remember they can always claw it back.
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Feb 11, 2015 16:49
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Vahakyla posted:Personally I feel that we should evaluate the pressing question at hand: No need. Like taking a toy away from a kid who mistreats it, removing guns from police until they learn how to use them properly seems like a fair compromise.
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Yeah, and the holder of the replica gun will be charged with the shooting.
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