Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Another tragic example of why anyone permitted to use lethal force should be wearing recording devices. Looting is a shameful behavior but opportunists wouldn't even have get an opening if oversight could improve people's trust in the police.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Republicans posted:

Are there any other witnesses to the shooting to back up Dorian Johnson's account of it? If it turns into a he said/he said between him and the cop then it's pretty much over.

Why didn't the officer have his camera on?

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Armed Drones can kill suspects, instead of cops

Rand Paul 2016

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The relevant gag starts at 6m09s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1umshC5U1s&t=369s

If St. Louis police refuse to use cameras this could be a the start of an important shift in policing. It is really a shame that another young man had to die for it to happen.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Going full Assad would be AA tanks with Darren Wilson's portrait shooting up buildings.

If Johnson is to be believed there are agitators coming from across the country now, but never mind the right wing media trend in previous weeks working people up about the 'War on Whites'

And of course the media has been happy to play up the riots and the convenience store CCTV footage while not bringing police dash/body cams into the conversation.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The best way to react to the CCTV video is to ask why there isn't a video of Wilson's encounter with Brown.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
If a cop has both a gun and a taser he could confuse the two.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Internet Webguy posted:

This was the excuse used when an officer shot and killed a dude on the subway in California.

I know, I was referencing the Oscar Grant case.

Beyond dash and body cams are gunsight cameras a possibility? It could be mounted on the side or underneath the muzzle and be set up to take a bunch of shots when the trigger is pulled. I would imagine vibration/heat/muzzle flash would cause some issues though.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Lawman 0 posted:

I mean I guess you could but why bother. :psyduck:

One cop argument is that 'a camera doesn't tell the whole story' but multiple cameras capturing an incident at multiple angles defeat that. A camera-equipped gun as standard issue would be even harder to tamper with than a dash or body cam. Covering up the lens would be obvious fuckery.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

PuTTY riot posted:

wouldn't that gently caress w/ the balance of the pistol and/or make it unweildy and harder to aim? Body cam or a google glass type deal seems a lot less obtrusive

It is just an idea I am toying with, as far as I know it doesn't exist. It would also be a little simpler than a dash or body cam because it would just be taking stills when the trigger is pulled, as opposed to constant video recording.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
At least one outlet is talking about police oversight

http://www.voanews.com/content/ferguson-shooting-sparks-interest-in-body-cameras/2423895.html

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

towelieban posted:

Tell that to Anthony Cumia

He went on the racial rant because a woman stood up to him for taking creepshots on the street in NYC. It was the combination of racism and invasive perversion that got him fired.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

GAPO posted:

Sincerely doubt he would have been fired for taking pictures. Even if they were creepy.

Nope, he brought it on himself by having a public race rant temper tantrum when someone stood up to him.

But please, keep canonizing a guy who entertained people by reading chimpout.com on the radio. Really makes you look good.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
I'm really not sure if he is serious or trolling, especially with poo poo like this:

Apthous posted:

Europe and North America are the only places in the world that have proven the ability to project peace and stability across the globe. Everyone else are literally mud people that are basically locked in endless cycles of civil war and unrest.

A real gem. Manufacturing and distributing the weapons is 'projecting peace and stability'

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

An Angry Bug posted:

Gee. Now that it's been shown he's trolling, if only there were a way to get him to leave. Someone in charge of moderating the discussion, so to speak.

Look at his rap sheet. He's incorrigible.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Trabisnikof posted:

If you think that's true, then how on earth can you keep pretending that you think Wilson committed a crime?

He's a pretty lame troll, don't bother.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The NSA hoovers up terabytes of internet traffic everyday. Video records can be managed if the political will is there. Also 90% of the videos can be wiped at the end of each week, the only reason to keep footage would be after an incident has occurred.

You prevent tampering with time/date stamps that get synced at the beginning and end of the shift.

Raerlynn posted:

Or the other argument is that these people are not comfortable interacting with someone on camera.

Who isn't comfortable? The cop or the person they are interacting with?

Mc Do Well fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Nov 20, 2014

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Raerlynn posted:

That implies that these are recent acquisitions, after the shooting. Hardly seems like they're willfully not using the cameras.

So where is the footage from Darren Wilson's dashcam that can help back his account? Seems like they were willfully not recording their activities before this.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

Regarding the uncomfortable with cameras thing, It's worth pointing out that some folks don't want to be recorded when they interact with police.

Who is that comfortable interacting with police to begin with?

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Apthous flew too close to the sun with his trolling. RIP in peace.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Are there apps that let you record video while saving to a secure cloud location?

It's probably overkill but it'd be really nice to have if you needed it.

Ustream

It eats up battery, though.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Dancing around the complete failure of PD to put themselves on video and have more evidence for future Grand Juries to mull over.

It is alot harder to get justice when you just have hear-say and expert testimonies.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
You can get :tinfoil: miles deep about Biggie and Tupac being targets of the FBI/CIA as well as LAPD and Suge Knight.

  • Locked thread