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So I just got this game today. I didn't really know about the whole grants and such part of how you make money, so I was broke. I somehow strung together a hellish 3rd world type prison where I had roughly 12 prisoners in cells and about 10 to 20 in holding cells. It was overcrowded and covered in filth. There were daily riots, and many killings. There were no janitors and no doctors and only 4 guards on staff to keep the peace. Riot cops were pretty much permanently assigned to my prison along with EMTs. Usually there were unconscious inmates and staff all over the place while the EMTs tried to catch up. For some reason it would calm down just enough to get the prisoners mostly to be only to start up as a fight as soon as the cell doors opened in the morning again. Once I figured out the whole grants thing, I tried to catch back up to being a real prison, but it was already gone too far. It actually got worse in a sick way, with weird situations like doctors healing both an inmate and a riot cop who were locked in a perpetual fight to control the main holding cell. I can't imagine being a guard or an inmate in this hell prison. This game rules. e: are there any limits on riot cops time wise? It seemed like a hell of a bargain to just keep one or two teams of em around constantly beating inmates' heads in. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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amuayse posted:Heh, I saw a thread on another forum where someone made a hellish gulag with one toilet, bed, and shower for the hundreds of prisoners and subsided solely on a diet of boiled cabbage. Somehow though, it was still profitable. This game can certainly be very interesting if you don't play in some kind of optimal way, and it feels a lot like dwarf fortress when played like that. My prisons where I don't use grants and use just the default starting money always have hilarious cascades of failure. I have one prison where I tried the "one big holding cell" tactic with forced prisoner intake, left it for a while, and came back to a mostly burned down prison with most of the guards and prisoners dead/wounded after what I assume was a pretty nasty riot. The prison did have a LOT of money at that point though. Also, instead of artifacts, you have superior beds to make. Though sadly nobody is carving that bed with depictions of legendary prisoners killing hordes of guards and fellow inmates during a fire. e: If Dwarf Fortess had a UI like Prison Architect, I would loving die of malnourishment while playing it. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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Oct 6, 2014 17:39
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edit^ beaten Prison Architect is currently on sale on steam. Since the main objection I hear from people is that it is a little pricey for what it is, 10.19 might be a good point for some people to jump in.
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Oct 6, 2014 20:55
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Croccers posted:Are CCTV's bugged out at the moment? I'm getting messages that cameras aren't hooked up to Monitors and no-one is watching them when they are. Did you just load a save? I have a problem where all my CCTV monitors are being watched, but after I load a save they won't work until I reassign a guard to them.
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Oct 7, 2014 22:15
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:Assign a guard to CCTVs? more just click them to do something else and someone fills in. But you can tell a guard to man them iirc
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Oct 7, 2014 22:40
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It's also an early access game. I don't know much of what they have planned for future updates, but there may be better implemented high security measures later. For what it's worth, this game would be less fun with real safe procedures instead of crazy rear end in a top hat legendary prisoners fist fighting whole crowds of guards and guys tunneling out of the prison with a spoon via their toilet. Stuff like in cell meals, escorts, multiple bunking individual cells, etc are all things I hope they might add later.
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Oct 8, 2014 22:18
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Escape plan based on horded spoons and a toilet.
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Oct 8, 2014 22:24
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Trabisnikof posted:Nope but prisoners don't climb regular fences (but they dig under) so you can pretend they are lethal. This would be interesting. Let prisoners have a chance of taking off and trying to climb the fence based on a variety of factors like guard presence, personal traits, etc.
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Oct 8, 2014 22:53
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The only prison I ever had catch fire was my attempt at a worst case prison. Never stopped the flow of prisoners. Max only. 1 holding cell. 1 canteen with 1 table 2 benches a just enough of a kitchen and serving tables. A tiny little shower for everyone. No common area or yard. Only upgrades were security stuff like armed guards. Eventually caught fire during a riot.
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Oct 15, 2014 17:52
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So I started letting "Max" prisoners in and made a special regime and cell block for them. They are loving impossible to deal with. There are two legendary ones in the max solitary that I cannot get out of there because as soon as they get off they fight the guard(s) letting them out and they get put right back in. I want to find a way to silently murder them.
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Oct 18, 2014 04:13
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So this weekend I played for the first time since mid October. Wow, the last couple updates have really been a big improvement. The scheduler is difficult to get at first, but once you learn it, it makes guard management really work well. Being able to make sure a group of guards constantly follow my Max and Super Max prisoners around is really nice. Before I had to have a bunch of extra guards so I could constantly have their lunch room, yard, etc constantly covered. It also cuts down the need for cameras as I can ensure that there a guards to cover blind spots as needed. You can really get by with a lot fewer guards now in my opinion. I do have two new issues I am encountering though. First is that certain guard tasks are just getting forgotten, specifically stuff like "escort prisoner to solitary" and "escort prisoner to cell". I have about 5 or 6 free guards at a given time, so I can't imagine it's them being too busy. One guy remained at the drop off point for a couple days before I finally managed to get a guard to pick him up. The other is that guard tazer certification classes aren't doing anything. Every night a bunch of guards go to the class, but even after several nights of this, none of them have their tazers.
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Dec 22, 2014 17:31
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Senso posted:I've been toying with the new patrol schedule thing and for the life of me, I cannot get it to work. I'm moving the sliders around, but the guards end up staying in the specified rooms forever. What are the colored numbers' meaning anyway? I don't know if the deployment scheduler covers patrols and I'd been assuming it does not. The colored numbers are your specific deployments. For instance you might want to have one deployment set for meal times where extra guards are in the canteen, so you set your meal times to deployment 1 and set deployment 1 to have 4 guards in the canteen. They have a sort of walkthrough in the release video for the newest version. I'd suggest giving it a watch if you haven't. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Dec 22, 2014 19:05
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I had my first real nasty incident in Max-Sec today. So far I usually just play with the normal/minimum security guys, but my current prison is my first attempt at having all 3 levels including Super-Max and protective custody wings. In one of the 20 cell max-sec cell blocks, I missed a snitch/Ex-law enforcement combo so of course almost as soon as he is in the unit, loving hell breaks loose. During lunch, what seemed like the entire block started attacking him and the 3 guards in the canteen. Unfortunately, the armed guard that is supposed to be patrolling there 24/7 was nowhere to be found. The target and 2 of the 3 guards were killed before an armed guard came in and went all rambo on the room, killing a few. Besides the fun of armed guards shooting things, the mini-riot gave me an excuse to start filling up my Super-max wing with a couple of the poo poo starters. I did confirm that patrols can be assigned on a schedule. I am now having a different problem with all my schedule blocks getting reverted after I do any construction that alters deployment zones.
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Dec 24, 2014 06:27
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:Yeah if you mess with your zones it will alter the deployment of stationed guards, but not patrol IIRC. The patrols will stay there even if you build a foundation under the patrol line, they'll just have a hard time getting around and it might cut the patrol line in places. Yea, I haven't tested it to be sure, but the patrols did seem to stay properly as I wasn't having to reassign them over and over like the stationed guards. I think the bigger bug was that the zone reset seemed to be pretty absurd. I was having to reassign all my canteen guards after building cell blocks on other sides of the map. On a related note, I assume PA has a bug reporting form somewhere, can someone give me a link so I can share these with them rather than simply blab about them on here?
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Dec 24, 2014 16:19
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Arclyte posted:http://support.introversion.co.uk/customer/portal/articles/951789-reporting-bugs It's not a true "bug", but it's probably worth reporting. Doesn't sound like it's really intended to work that way and would be a bit of an oversight.
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Dec 24, 2014 17:00
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Sindai posted:I distinctly remember it because my version of the game was the post-recall-and-reprint edition with a fixed uninstaller and a prominent "VERSION 1.1" on the CD. Man, releases and updates must have been an nightmare before the internet existed. Hell, it was definitely weird back when AutoUpdate was a rare feature since most users didn't have good enough internet to support downloading patches on demand.
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Dec 24, 2014 18:25
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"This drill from Workshop1 is a really good value!"StarMinstrel posted:Is it possible to build more modern, communal cell blocks in this game? Say a block where you have a central lounge, bathroom and then separate rooms? All I see is individual 2x3 jail cells. I kinda do this with my "minimum security" in some prisons. I put normal security+ in cells and my minimums get a couple full featured holding cells.
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Met posted:Had an issue across multiple games where my dog patrols would drop yellow flags on the exact same spot consistently (6+ flags at a time) and yet my shakedowns and manual searches revealed nothing. I knew there was supposed to be false positives but that does make it odd multiple patrols were putting the flag on the same spot. I had this happen in one prison. The spot they kept signalling was well away from any cell block and not near any pipes or on any route that would make sense for prisoners to be tunneling. I tried searching every cell block each time they signaled, and nothing. I was curious if it might be a disconnected piece of tunnel that somehow exists through a glitch.
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I am noticing two distinct problems with prisoner behavior. One is that I had guards letting prisoners outside the prison walls, causing escapes. This was because I had a perimeter area with an entrance outside the prison, but not into the prison. I assume they are going to pick up contraband in that area, but when they notice they are outside, they flee. I was really confused the first couple times the guard in the "airlock" opened both loving doors to let a prisoner basically just run away. Second is that prisoners seem to break all rules if they are doing something involving library books. I tried to hold and execution and when I locked down, all the prisoners went to their cells, except the ones holding library books. The book holders just stopped in their tracks and did nothing. I had to manually assign them all to solitary to continue. In a similar manner, I've seen prisoners completely out of bounds and out of regime while they randomly do things like return library books or read. Also, my death row is hilarious. Every cell is it's own little thunderdome every couple hours when the legendary prisoner inside decides it's time to fight the cadre of armed guards protecting the Death Row block.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Are you referring to the execution chamber, or what? Solitary cells with on set of doors inside the prison and a set of doors leading outside the prison. Put an armed guard on patrol right outside the doors leading out. Enable free fire, open the external doors. Problem solved. If you have multiple cells and open them all at once, it's like a little race.
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In my current hell prison. You have a better chance of being murdered by a prisoner or shot by a guard than you have of being released. Currently 15% of all prisoners will end up killed. I like this new hell prison. Fast edit: In the time I took to write this post, 2 more prisoners were killed.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Do you have game overs disabled or do you have it carefully balanced so that the number of daily fatalities is under the limit for getting a warning? Because the latter might make an interesting challenge. Sure you'll let them kill each other, but not TOO much. Game over disabled. 13 dead in the last 24. I have 22 armed guards patrolling. It sounds like a warzone with all the random shooting. Fast edit: I only have holding cells, which makes it more interesting.
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Apr 7, 2015 22:27
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widespread posted:Call me hosed, but for every "successful" prison I look at, I want to make a Gulag. Like, I tried it before but everyone didn't get fed in time, lotsa death, et cetera. Might try again with Fail conditions to see if I could get away with it again. I made one of these. Several large holding cells. It worked out okay until I decided to stop controlling the flow of incoming inmates. It slowly devolved into near constant shooting by the armed guards. There was minimum 1 death every day in the shower, canteen, and yard. Eventually there was a really bad riot that left a LOT of guards and prisoners dead. It only got cleared up by me holding off my armed guards for a little bit so I could concentrate them en masse against the mob. It sounded like a warzone with all the shooting, even before the riot.
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PantsFreeZone posted:Unpopular opinion here, but I would prefer if these guys worked on the AI and the sim and gently caress Escape Mode. My thoughts exactly. Escape mode just seems like a silly fun thing to do from time to time. Improving it would be great of course, but not at expense of the sim elements.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:21
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FadedReality posted:Escape Mode is awesome. After 10 minutes I had three guys who could punch their cell doors off with a single hit and cause everyone around them to kick off as well. See, this is why I can't wait to get home from work and play escape mode. gently caress escaping, I just want to make all my prisoners go apeshit.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:46
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KillHour posted:Isn't that just the normal game at that point? Yes, except now when the visitors show up I can hit them with a broken broom stick.
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Oct 6, 2015 20:02
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well, I successfully did it for the first time. Murdered all the guards in a prison and basically walked out. Granted, it was my terrible first prison where you could pretty much just grab a drill, screwdriver, or hacksaw anywhere because I had "closets" all around. Second successful escape went hilariously well. Did a little grind to get 2 guys to near max reputations. Started a fight with the guards. Murdered like 20 before the armed guards showed up. Once they showed up, I killed them too. Once I killed them, it was a blood bath and I annhilated the whole prison. I blew up the power generator early on, so it was like the police department scene in Terminator 1. Ended up with 1362 points 
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Oct 7, 2015 01:23
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CapnAndy posted:Yeah, I had way more victims than that. The greatest oversight is no scrollbar on the victims section.
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Oct 7, 2015 16:12
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 The drill might be a little overpowered.
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I need to try to escape via a method that isn't "Murder my way to the door". I didn't even remember digging was an option. Is there any way to sleep in your bed or anything to get through the "sleep" portion of the regime?
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Oct 7, 2015 22:16
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DeepQantas posted:There should be a "Sleep" button just above the reputation button when all your guys are in their cells. Thank you. I feel dumb for not noticing that.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:44
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Baloogan posted:I had a concept Supermax + PC wing. Didn't really work the way I wanted. I had one like this in my previous prison. It worked just fine, but it's such a hassle getting the prisoner regime and guard schedule right if it's anything beyond "Supermax eats at W, Y and PC eats at X, Z. Luckdown the rest".
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Oct 12, 2015 14:35
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My favorite part of this image is that you combined your utility room and classroom. Class next to the generator!
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FreudianSlippers posted:Turns out that putting two armed guards with him in the solitary cell and then locking the door until he threw a hissy fit over not being able to sleep or poop did the job. That seems like a risk considering he had a non-zero chance of getting a gun in that situation.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:In the absence of anything more fun to do, is anyone interested in doing rotating shifts on building/managing a prison with some tricky, failure-is-inevitable settings? I am interested. I always thought PA would be a good game for a boatmurdered type playthrough.
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Just popping in to confirm I am doing this. I might do it tonight, but more likely tomorrow and I'll try to post screenshots and a write up right afterwards. Probably no streaming, just because I don't have anything set to do that. If I do, I'll post in here ahead of time to give some warning.
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sstrickl posted:Alternate title suggestion: Orange is the new Dwarf: Let's Play Prison Architect! This is the best title.
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I've finished my turn! Things got interesting and there was riot! Write up in a couple hours.
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Here is the prison as I received it. Immediately I notice a few things that grind my gears. First, no remote doors. Second, no laundry. Third, no security room. Finally, no surveillance cameras. I shall aim to fix these things. I start by starting research on remote access. I'll want to star installing remote doors asap. I love remote doors. Here is my new dorm and laundry room in progress! I also upped the intake to 10 per day. At least temporarily to fill the new space! This surely won't backfire.  I had 2 guys get into a fight in the cafeteria in the evening.  Kori was still unconcious hours later, so I had to call the paramedics. 4 guys seemed a little much, but whatever.  Wiring for the new door and camera system as well as the new security office!    Violence is continuing to be a problem.  Yep a big problem. We have a  RIOT    The cause? They really wanted to kill a snitch named Duncan Nash. Guess he shouldn't have ratted his partners out on... Criminal Damaging?  Another fight later in the afternoon!   I decided to stagger the eat and shower times to reduce traffic and crowding. I've also added a phone tap to hopefully ID snitches and other security threats as well as adding more guards.  Things are getting worse! But it's not my problem now! Good luck to our next Warden: Dareon  Download Linkhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3oVOHecs6g8SHNlcTNQdkg1ak0/view?usp=sharing wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Wait, did you arm the groundskeepers during that riot? (at least it looks like they're carrying policy truncheons) You can down that now? Not that I know of? I don't see and tuncheons on the groundskeepers or the janitors. Maybe you're seeing the rakes/mops?
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