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How could Michigan somehow drop like 1.5 times the next highest college coaches salary? The whole leak seems like a really transparent way to drive up Harbaugh's price to NFL teams.
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Yeah, I'd eat my hat if he doesn't stay in the NFL. American Football revolves around the Super Bowl, and he still hasn't won it.
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Dec 20, 2014 06:32
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One other thing to keep in mind is that Harbaugh is certainly on pace to be a hall of famer. Whether he can maintain that pace is one thing, but he took a team that was perennially poo poo to the playoffs, made a QB in Alex Smith who had absolutely never had a good season into a solid starter, and pushed for the super bowl every year in the postseason. If he could do it someplace else and get a ring or two and have several great years where the team contended, he'd definitely be in consideration. If he signs an 8 year college contract or something and finishes it, he's throwing away his chance at a gold jacket. I doubt that's something anyone takes lightly.
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Dec 20, 2014 17:36
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Neodoomium posted:Oakland is a bad job because Mark Davis is the owner. It was bad when his father was the owner and he used to be very competent at coaching! Owner isn't really an important position these days. A lot of the recent buyers have been rich dudes that don't know dick about football who just wanted a new toy. A lot of the older ones are hand-me-downs from coach/players who owned the team when football was nothing, and the people who inherited also don't know poo poo. Davis isn't a football mind, but he loves the Raiders, and I'd take him and a good GM over Jerry Jones any day. MourningView posted:Oakland burns through coaches at a crazy rate, no one knows where the gently caress they're going to play next year, and their roster is a mess. It's a pretty bad job. Not since Mark took over. Dennis Allen got more than a fair chance, and had it not been some downright embarrassing losses this season, he'd probably still be the coach. The rest are valid points, but it depends on what he's looking for. If he wants a blank slate to build as his own, there isn't a much better candidate than the Raiders. They've got an OROY candidate QB, and a DROY candidate OLB to build around. Outside of that, almost everyone is on a one year deal, and they will have tons of cap space every off season for the foreseeable future. But if he wants to jump right in with a Super Bowl contender, obviously the Raiders aren't on his radar. Sash! posted:Yes, those poor horrible Niners with the fifth best record overall since the merger, tied for fourth most winning seasons, and the only team to win five Super Bowls with no Super Bowl losses. The 5-8 years prior to Harbaugh being hired are the only ones that are relevant here. The niners sucked rear end for all of that and I enjoyed every minute of it.
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Dec 20, 2014 20:20
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His contract isn't even up until 2017, and there's no way in gently caress the Saints fire him. Michigan might as well try to sign Drew Brees as their QB for all the progress they'll make on the Payton front.
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Dec 21, 2014 19:54
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Deteriorata posted:Occam's razor is a bitch. I'm pretty sure Occam's razor in this case is the successful major league coach staying in the major leagues like literally every other successful NFL coach.
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Dec 21, 2014 20:59
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pugnax posted:Except that he's actually spent more time coaching at the college level, and is a total lunatic that is getting forced out of a gig because he treats his players like kids. Almost every NFL coach has spent more time coaching in college. You have to have work experience to get promoted. I think the issue is more York and Balke disliking Harbaugh as a person than anything related to his coaching.
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Dec 21, 2014 23:04
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Adun posted:He didn't bomb out. Made the two playoffs twice with the Pats, won the AFC East his first year, and then got fired after missing the playoffs in year 3. Jim Harbaugh is the 5th winningest coach in NFL history, most winningest active, and the only coach to go to the conference championship game every year in his first three seasons. Carroll went 33-31 before he got fired, and made the playoffs once in 4 years, losing in the wild card round. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Dec 22, 2014 |
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Adun posted:Actually he was 27-21 with the Pats and made the playoffs twice in three years. But whatever. He was 6-10 when he coached the Jets for a year and got fired. The playoffs thing is right, I misread. But, he took over a team that went to the Super Bowl the year before, and they did progressively worse every season he was there. The 49ers went from 6-10 before Harbaugh to 13-3 and the NFC championship his first season. They aren't even close to comparable. If Harbaugh goes to Michigan, he will probably stay, because he'd be passing up NFL jobs to do it. And if he's passing up NFL jobs to coach college now, I don't see why he'd feel any differently in a year or two. But that's why I don't think he'll pass up an NFL job, and his camp is just using Michigan to drive up the price.
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Dec 22, 2014 01:21
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I just saw a Harbaugh at a gas station in Denver. John Fox to Michigan?
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Dec 22, 2014 17:43
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it's about ethics in sports wordpress blogs
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Chris James 2 posted:This thread's finally getting good :popcorn: I will graciously accept the egg on my face, but the fat lady has not yet sung.
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Deteriorata posted:Well, given reports like this from last March: Reports like that are a dime a dozen for all coaches. There was no reason to see anything in them until the 49ers started losing this season.
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Dec 27, 2014 04:04
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The 49ers have given the Raiders permission to interview Harbaugh.  The season isn't even over yet.
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R.D. Mangles posted:I'm invested in Oakland hiring Harbaugh only because that would make this the funniest thread in TFF. Same. Being a Raiders fan would just make it all the more 
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Deteriorata posted:According to this, that can't be true because they aren't allowed to do it. Rapaport said that Oakland officials are meeting with the 49ers this weekend, and somebody on Sirius Radio said the 49ers had given them permission. A Raiders beat writer said the talks were being done with i's dotted and the t's crossed to avoid tampering issues.
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Dec 27, 2014 17:34
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So the Raiders will get in trouble for tampering, and Harbaugh will go to Miami.
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Dec 27, 2014 17:35
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Adun posted:Jim Harbaugh is the most Raiders coach around. I really hope it goes through welp. it's not happening. 
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CharlestheHammer posted:will u be my insider source? i would love to. follow me at @raiderblation and my blog at raiderblation.wordpress.com
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If he does go to college, I don't see him coming back any time soon, if at all. I don't see any other motivation for him to go to Michigan other than preferring to coach college football over the NFL. There's decent job offers that will be available this offseason, and if this happens as quick as some people say it might, he wouldn't even have entertained any of them. It seems strange because he seems psychotically competitive, which you would think would demand he coach at the highest level, but he's kind of a strange dude in general.
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Dec 28, 2014 05:44
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Nick Saban wasn't much longer for the NFL either way.
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Lasagna Pilot posted:So it looks like the Vegas odds were on to something. it was inflated by det betting his 401k
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Komet posted:According to 247, Michigan sits at an abysmal #90 in the rankings, with only 6 recruits (!). Can Harbaugh salvage some sort of respectable class in 30 days? Jesus Christ.  I don't follow much college football. I knew Michigan was bad lately, but I thought it was by Michigan standards, not that they actually sucked poo poo.
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Harbaugh is going to dominate college football, sorry if this offends anyone.
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Grittybeard posted:It's not like he hasn't been there? At poo poo rear end Stanford. He's going to be able to recruit everyone at Michigan. Nobody's NFL resume is even close to his, which is going to matter to kids who are looking towards the pros. Add that with how popular of a school Michigan is in college football, and I'd expect them to be a top 5 team pretty soon.
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Yeah, but Stanford doesn't have the pedigree Michigan has. A lot of guys are going to want to be a part of the band getting back together in Michigan, just because of how iconic that team is. It'll be much easier there. And I definitely expect them to be among the top contenders for a National Championship on a regular basis after everyone gets established.
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Alouicious posted:everyone kid wants to be part of the team that gets regularly shithoused by an SEC or PAC-12 team in the playoffs every year, you're right Come on. Michigan is probably one of the 5 most recognizable teams in college football. Turning that around is something people are going to remember.
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Brian Kelly isn't the spark that Harbaugh is going to be.
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Regnevelc posted:Harbaugh's yearly salary is 5M + incentives. Per Bacon from Hackett. Told you he'd take a pay cut compared to what he could make in the NFL. Hope he's happy and it works out well for him in Michigan. I do see where he's coming from if the reports about him realizing his style was best suited for the college game are true.
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AsInHowe posted:Ann Arbor Torch & Pitchfork is now out of business. 2007-2014. The Raiders now have a monopoly on  quote:FOX Sports Live Verified account
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