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Also calling it now paradol ex style: my prediction is that Huckabee manages to rally the Republican right behind him and win the primaries against Jeb "Mexican" Bush and then lose to clinton
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I wonder how many Republicans they can fit onto the stage of a debate, cus it seems we've reached a breaking point and every Republican in the nation is going for it. I mean lol:  and that's without Romney and Graham.
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From a PPP Iowa poll:quote:On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton has one of her weaker recent polling performances, getting 45% to 23% for Elizabeth Warren, 12% for Bernie Sanders, 7% for Joe Biden, 3% for Martin O'Malley, and 1% each for Lincoln Chafee and Jim Webb. If Warren doesn't run and most of those votes go to Sanders, he could put up a real challenge in Iowa.
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May 1, 2015 01:39
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Useless Shotgun circa 2007 posted:I love Obama and I plan on supporting him the primaries but anybody who thinks that America would elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama as the democratic candidate, much less President, is out of their mind.
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May 1, 2015 07:35
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PerpetualSelf posted:It was different he wasn't a a out and out socialist. Dunno if this has ever been polled, but I'd bet the majority of Americans would describe Obama as a socialist.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/01/politics/bernie-sanders-fundraising/quote:Washington (CNN) - Bernie Sanders' nascent presidential campaign announced Friday that it raised more than $1.5 million in its first 24 hours, a number that far outpaces what Republican presidential hopefuls posted in their first day. efb
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Hillary Clinton is not charismatic at all. The good news is outside of maybe Huckabee's preacher charisma, neither are any of the Republican candidates.
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May 3, 2015 00:27
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Cliff Racer posted:Also, a communist acquaintance of mine has weighed in on Bernie I think this is a good article to help the more hardcore commies be less dumb about Sanders https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/05/bernie-sanders-president-vermont-socialist/
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Accelerationism is pretty dumb but I'm never going to vote for Hillary. If Sanders doesn't pull off a miracle I'll just vote for Jill Stein.
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May 4, 2015 00:45
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Cliff Racer posted:This is a very smart thing to do and I encourage all very left-wing people in this thread to do the same! Vote your heart! I know I did in 2008 when I was Hill all the way to election day when I voted McCain instead. Spite those fuckers! I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I can guess it's pretty dumb.
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May 4, 2015 01:46
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nrook posted:If only the United States could elect a socialist president like Bernie, rather than a center-left pol like Clinton. Then, we might undergo economic growth like that of those socialist countries of Western Europe. The US could have a median income of $33k, like France, rather than the $44k we suffer under now. We'd be much better off then. Yeah, because there are no other fundamental differences between the US and French economies besides their "socialism."
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May 5, 2015 04:15
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Sanders has 175,000 registered volunteers already. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/sanders-boasts-175-000-pledged-volunteers-439573571604
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May 5, 2015 08:38
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the huckabeast is going to win the republican primary
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May 5, 2015 15:49
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PupsOfWar posted:if you want to Protest Vote, you can easily find some minor socialist party with social-justice/economic equality positioning that's as good or better than the Greens', but without all the weird paraphenalia inserted into the Green platform to placate elderly hippies. In 2012 in Texas only Green, Libertarian, and D/R were on the ballot.
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Joementum posted:Yes, but Texas does count write-ins. drat, I could have been the 163rd Texas vote for Stewart Alexander...
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lmao the comments Jeb is going to be ripped apart by the other candidates for treating hispanic people like people.
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quote:Sanders, an independent from Vermont, drew support from 13% of likely Democratic primary voters, according to the poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center before Sanders' announced his candidacy for president last month. The senator's support doubled from a February poll by the same group that found 6% of Democratic primary voters supported the independent. http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/06/politics/bernie-sanders-poll-new-hampshire-2016-elections/ When are they going to start doing these polls without Warren? Isn't it pretty certain at this point she isn't running?
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Venom Snake posted:Nobody is going to single issue vote on Bernie, I don't give a crap about guns, and the dumb smug superiority exuded by Bernie fanboys is annoying. Well he is primarily running on income inequality and corporate influence in government, but that's a bit too broad for single issue really.
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May 8, 2015 14:27
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Venom Snake posted:What do you think Hillary is running on. The same thing, but ironically 
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May 8, 2015 15:16
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Venom Snake posted:you have spent several pages of this thread asserting everyone who's not Ronpauling for Bernie is evil. and you've spent several pages of this thread being smugly superior
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May 8, 2015 16:19
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wow talking about the Democratic primary in the primary thread, these Bernie Ron Paulites are insane!!
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May 8, 2015 19:13
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Concerned Citizen posted:That doesn't ignore anything. Your statistic has zero relevance to the fact at hand: if Nader was not on the Florida ballot, Al Gore would have won enough votes from Nader voters to win the election. What you're talking about only reflects the South's realignment away from Republican politics at the federal level during that time.
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May 8, 2015 19:20
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Concerned Citizen posted:Maybe if you're a college student or a middle class salary worker, you might not feel it regardless of who wins - but the poor and very poor are the ones who are most vulnerable to the sociopathic GOP policies that cut food stamps, disability payments, etc. But enough about Bill Clinton
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May 8, 2015 19:29
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Venom Snake posted:good thing Bill Clinton has come out against the stuff he did vis a vis welfare during his term. lol yeah a really good thing
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May 8, 2015 19:36
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Zelder posted:Literally everyone is doing this, gently caress. Everyone is just talking past each other or saying dumb things like "Hillary Clinton is almost as bad as the eventual republican candidate." Hillary Clinton is indeed the lesser evil. The difference with Bernie is that he's not an evil at all.
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May 8, 2015 19:47
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The Democratic Party will not take the left seriously until it wins a primary or it faces a serious third party challenge from the left. The Democrats only picked up progressivism and the labor movement after challenges from the Populists and Socialists. Crying about spoilers and demanding leftists fall in line will simply maintain the party as is.
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Concerned Citizen posted:I think primary challenges are great, unless it's in a competitive seat and the primary is some hopeless challenge that will only imperil the general and accomplish nothing of value. (A good example - the pointless Wisconsin primary before the recall that allowed Walker to exploit a loophole in the law that gave him unlimited fundraising while dividing Democrats 30 days from the general recall election) A general election left wing challenge in a competitive state will have the opposite effect - a lot of leftist votes will essentially be excluded from the electorate and the Democrats will be forced to compete for the center-right to win (and that will probably fail). I mean, the bottom line is that the left is a minority part of one of the two major parties. Most of the time, the left will not be satisfied with any Democrat running that can win a general election. So what's the point? If the left is going to throw their votes away, then why bother running for left-wing votes and abandon the majority of voters who might otherwise be inclined to back them? The point is that it forces the Democratic Party to shift to the left in the future to address the challengers concerns, as has been shown repeatedly in American history. Without the Populists there would have been no progressivism, without the Socialists there would have been no Democratic embracement of labor, without Huey Long's Share The Wealth threat the New Deal would have been significantly neutered.
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Concerned Citizen posted:And in 1948, Strom Thurmond ran for President. In 1968, Wallace ran for President. Neither of their campaigns managed to bring segregation politics in the Democratic mainstream - if anything, they further marginalized their positions. The modern primary and electoral system have essentially made third party politics a drain. A good example would be the Montana 2012 Senate election, in which a Democratic-funded SuperPAC ran ads for the libertarian candidate accusing the GOPer of wanting to place cameras in forests and spy on hunters. The Dixiecrats were co-opted by the Republicans with the Southern Strategy, not the Democrats. Regardless their concerns were adopted by a major party. I'd say the only large third party that didn't have their plank co-opted by a major party would be Ross Perot.
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comes along bort posted:He's catching on, I'm telling ya! hey like a month ago that was 3-5% lol. at this rate sanders will be president by july
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May 8, 2015 21:50
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RZA Encryption posted:To the moon! that reminds me, has gingrich given up on his presidential aspirations
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May 8, 2015 21:56
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wasn't yougov the group that bungled their own 'exit' poll pretty hard last night in the UK election? that was every pollster in the united kingdom
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May 8, 2015 22:45
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Just playing all four quotes in a row is is going to make a good attack ad
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May 14, 2015 19:06
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Nintendo Kid posted:There has never been any evidence the coup was actually real as opposed to the sayings of a deranged man. lmao calling Smedley Butler a deranged man
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May 23, 2015 03:28
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Running as a Democrat gives him a platform to reach a much larger part of the American population with his Kinda Actually Almost Leftist Opinions, whereas if he ran as an independent he would be ignored much more so. He has a much greater opportunity to increase class consciousness using the Democratic party primaries as a microphone than if he went it alone, never got on TV and maybe pulled 1.5% of the vote in the general and then get blamed by crybaby dems for losing them the election. That said, personally I'd prefer if he lost the primary to continue in the general as an independent, but don't dare mention that in d&d with all the Young Democrats in here.
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Ogmius815 posted:Some of the founding fathers kind of sucked (looking at you Jefferson) but George Washington was basically the man. jefferson was actually one of the better founding fathers if youre going to ignore slavery, its just that his ideology doesn't fit at all in a world after industrialization
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