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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh gently caress yes The mention of sky admiral Bachmann reminds me of ANDERSON ANDERSON ANDERSON ANDERSON from the same debate, I couldn't say which one was better  .
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Why would anyone want president Biden? He's perfect as VP because he's funny and doesn't actually do anything, his actual policies are pretty awful.
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Jan 21, 2015 20:13
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:What's Hilary got over him? Genuinely asking here. I view them as basically equals on policy except Biden is especially awful on criminal justice and the drug war. Hillary polls better and would probably do considerably better with women, for me it's basically a lesser of two evils scenario so I want the most likely winner.
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Jan 21, 2015 20:24
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Really I don't see this one being easy for the right. If Obama winning so hard two elections in a row that the right couldn't even spin it is any indication America is sick of the right's bullshit. Hell look at the numbers of the mid term. If memory serves Democrats got more popular votes by a long shot but the right got more seats. Can't hide poo poo like that forever. Especially since all the GOP ran on in 2012 was "the economy sucks" and how you needed Mr. Businessman Romney to come in and fix it. Unless something bad happens in the interim they will need a different thing to run on which probably won't be as effective.
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Jan 22, 2015 23:10
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V. Illych L. posted:re: sheriff thing holy hell i guess nobody's votes really counted in that situation Part of the reason old people always vote is because of that fetishization though, they have it pounded into their brains that it's a civic duty to vote while young people generally don't give a gently caress, so the result is we're governed on the whims of reactionary old people which is obviously not a desirable situation. EDIT: Like even though the popular liberal millenial "my vote doesn't matter" attitude is more accurate than the "radical homomarxist black muslims are gonna take are country if you don't get to the polls  " attitude, the latter attitude is productive for what they want to get done while the liberal one is self-defeating.
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Feb 7, 2015 23:15
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GreyPowerVan posted:Let's be honest --- I'm all for Sanders (a good president) or Biden (the best president) in 2016. Sure, Hillary is cool and all, but can you see anyone besides Biden or Sanders doing the poo poo Obama has been doing? All of the social media videos he did were great. He even ruined 'Thanks, Obama' so I don't have to hear that stupid poo poo all the time. I'm not going to tell you how to vote but perhaps there might be some better criteria out there for choosing a presidential candidate?
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Mar 6, 2015 21:22
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Joementum posted:The scampaign continues! You can now buy a subscription to Mike Huckabee's video podcast for $7.95 per month or $59.40 a year. Will it cure my diabetes?
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Apr 5, 2015 23:48
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Oh gently caress you Cruz I don't know where you got that from but it's incorrect, he didn't say war he literally used the word "jihad." Imagine for a second how up in arms the right would be if a Democratic senator used that sort of rhetoric when describing Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmoGgziNTS0
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Apr 10, 2015 20:35
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't know, judging from this thread we can also expect a whole lot of racism if Jindal runs. Making fun of someone for having a portrait done that looks nothing like them is racist?
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Apr 11, 2015 23:10
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AhhYes posted:I actually think that the no degree thing will be a bigger issue than people think. I know people want someone they could have a beer with, but I think most folks also want someone with more education than high school. I could be wrong, but I do think that deep down, even people on the far right want an educated person in the White House. I think most Republicans who value things like education would relate more with Walker who sounds like a businessman rather than Perry who sounds like a Southern Baptist preacher. Sure Perry has a degree but he sure doesn't sound like it, even Walker sounds more educated when speaking then Perry does.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:26
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Yeah, I have experience with outsourcing technical work and there are a lot of trade offs. Sometimes the quality is poo poo but you deal with it because it's cheap and you can just tell them to keep hammering away at it until it works well enough, despite being fundamentally a poor design. If you want the work done to more exacting standards then you have more wasted time on trying to micromanage a project remotely. Being able to bring those workers over here and pay them low wages removes most of these downsides.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:57
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What always pisses me off is how more people don't highlight the logical leap that these idiots make from saying that homosexuality isn't genetic to saying that it's a choice. Even if homosexuality were 100% caused by environmental factors and 0% by genetics (which is clearly not the case as shown by numerous studies) that would still in no way imply that sexuality were a "choice." I do wish liberals would stop using the phrase "born this way" because it makes it way too easy for conservatives to muddy the waters. "Born this way" is technically false but in practice indistinguishable from reality. It doesn't matter how much of sexuality is determined by genetics and how much is determined by environmental factors because the only thing that matters is that it's completely out of our control and basically set in place at a young age, focusing endlessly on the genetic vs environmental thing is exactly what conservatives want to do because it distracts from the fact that the "choice" argument is a red herring.
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Apr 23, 2015 19:08
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Alter Ego posted:As stupid as the idea sounds, the fact that Jeb Bush is dieting so rigidly could actually hurt him in the primaries. Part of bonding with voters is eating whatever horrible local food they put in front of you (see: Fred Thompson eating moose chili). Hey now, in no way can moose chili be described as "horrible."
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Apr 24, 2015 19:09
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A Bag of Milk posted:Oatmeal has lots of insoluble fiber, which is quite healthy and helps with metabolism and could contribute to weight loss. It also helps with the feeling of being full and discourages snacking. The instant oatmeal packets are terrible of course, but a bowl of steel cut oats is in a different league altogether than loving pancakes. And they're way more flavorful than regular rolled oats too, so you can get away with using just a tiny amount of brown sugar or whatever you use to sweeten it.
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Apr 24, 2015 21:27
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How are u posted:Unsurprising. Just y'all watch, as soon as sexual orientation becomes a protected civil right we are going to see thousands of rich, white gay men show their true colors and fully embrace conservative politics. They're just as willing stomp on the face of the poor as a rich, white straight guy. I'm sure there are some but all of the self-described conservative gays (none of whom actually voted GOP) I have met have been strong social liberals would wouldn't vote for the party that calls their trans friends freaks and wants to jail pot smokers. The GOP would have to more fully embrace social liberalism to really get these people on board. Granted these are the millenial urban type of rich gays, I'm sure older or more rural ones would be more willing to go GOP.
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Apr 27, 2015 20:03
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SirKibbles posted:Yeah but I'm referring to them being actively courted by politicians before that they were always a pain in the rear end but not to this level. Nope, the religious right formed in the 70s, became a big organized power in the 80s, peaked in the early-mid 90s and is now in slow decline. People complain about how much power they have now but yes it used to be worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E9sZqunJ_M EDIT: I don't think they could have picked better background music for this video. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Apr 28, 2015 04:16
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Nessus posted:That's real!? I thought I was clever inventing it! e: as an expression/bad joke, obviously. That was my initial thought as well but I guess it's actually a real term that used to be popular with those charming folks over at National Review, I too am surprised that the term fell by the wayside. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homintern
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Apr 28, 2015 05:57
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Dead Gay Romans posted:I don't know why everyone is so convinced Hillary will get the nomination. In the 08 primaries her victory was touted as just as inevitable and well, she got blown out of the water by a relative nobody. Who are the alternatives? The only two people that really have any support from the base are Elizabeth Warren is clearly not running and Bernie Sanders who isn't even a Democrat.
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He could pressure her on the TPA, she hasn't taken a side on it because the base hates it and her Wall Street buddies love it.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:30
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OneTwentySix posted:As much as I love Bernie, wouldn't he end up being an absolutely terrible president? He wouldn't be able to get anything done with Congress, and when things start to fall apart, the Republicans would just blame him rather than their horribleness. I feel like he'd be an amazing dictator, but not such a good president under current conditions. He has sponsored some major bipartisan legislation before such as this VA reform bill, it's not like he's a liberal version of Ron Paul. http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-passes-veterans-health-care-bill
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Apr 30, 2015 21:41
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Vlex posted:Bernie benches a hell of a lot more than he deadlifts. Haha 90lb one arm curls, dude must have biceps the size of watermelons
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May 1, 2015 00:10
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Nessus posted:People keep saying over and over 'she voted for the Iraq war, I can't support someone who ever did that, end of line.' If Bernie basically also did that, well then Sanders voted against the original Iraq AUMF while Hillary voted for it.
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May 2, 2015 22:31
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Nintendo Kid posted:I too believe things on no basis whatsoever. Did you hear it also creates vampires? Well it would kind of help if we could actually loving read it, maybe fewer people would believe baseless things about it then.
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May 5, 2015 05:28
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed far less enthusiasm for Rand Paul than for his father four years ago. Thank Christ. He's sold out on every major issue and the Paultards have mostly jumped ship, it's a shame.
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May 5, 2015 19:47
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computer parts posted:It would be really easy to do, just have a Bernie Sanders character that is focused around GMOs instead of wealth inequality. Food Babe for president.
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May 5, 2015 22:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:Fiorina is absolutely that vain. Yeah, I've heard some interviews with her and she doesn't use any self depreciating humor or other tactics politicians typically use to humanize herself, she just sits there and brags about how awesome she is the whole time and how everyone else sucks.
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May 6, 2015 20:16
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Man Evangelicals have completely trashed their brand, couldn't have happened to a more deserving group. I just feel bad for the ones who aren't bigots and don't want to cut ties with the church completely.
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May 6, 2015 20:38
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My Imaginary GF posted:Name a centrist democrat who's raised minimum wage, and in who's state riots have not occured within the past 2 years. My favorite part is where he stonewalled the white house LGBT liason until after DADT was put in place and then told him that it was "more than you people deserve."
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May 7, 2015 20:16
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Here we go, this is a back and forth between rahm and the white house LGBT liason. There's more but unfortunately it was cut off, I need to read this book. When he says "you've already had too much" he's referring to DADT .
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May 7, 2015 20:38
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I need...way more context on all that. Rahm called David Mixner asking for fundraising money for some gay rights related event. Mixner gets mad because Rahm has been purposely stonewalling him and keeping him in the dark on the DADT debate. Then Rahm goes into Rahm mode. Unfortunately I could only get that page of the book but here is the background info without any of the juicy details. http://www.bilerico.com/2010/07/david_mixner_an_oral_history_of_dadt.php
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May 7, 2015 20:55
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Fulchrum posted:You started this whole thing by saying that he can win the General and Hillary can't, by going on about how we were just days away, no really, totally for true this time, of Republicans uncovering the scandal that is actually real and Americans actually care about that causes her to be dissgraced and would lead to the Republicans gaining an easy win, therefore its better to support Sanders becayuse he would do better against the GOP candidate du jour. Do you really think he would lose "hugely" just because he calls himself a socialist? None of his political positions are significantly to the left of a typical progressive Democrat. You guys are acting like he's calling for the state to start seizing private businesses or something. What actual policies does he have that are so toxic?
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May 7, 2015 22:47
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Fulchrum posted:And as we all know, politics is now and has always been completely about substance. Which is why Purple Heart recipient John Kerry absolutely crushed cheerleader George W. Bush when the nation decided to choose the Warrior as their leader. You're the one that stated he is "actively pissing off moderates," how? You'd have a good point if Hillary was an Obama-like campaigner that oozed charisma but on the style side she has no advantage over Bernie. I'm just saying you need more to back up your assertions that Bernie is hated by moderates and would be crushed in the general than the word "socialist."
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The way that they want to apply it in practice is really stupid too. They wanted to sue Bushmaster over Sandy Hook asserting "that the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it is a military weapon unsuited for civilian use." Because banning someone's AR-15 and making them buy another .223 semi-automatic rifle is going to make any loving difference  .
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May 8, 2015 00:20
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Concerned Citizen posted:That's absurd. Walker, Jeb, or even Rubio have a strong chance of winning the White House. And that's against Hillary. Against Sanders, it would not be a tough win. What actual policy positions does Bernie have that would be so offputting as to make him lose in the general? Most of the stuff he talks about is generic economic populist stuff that polls pretty well among the electorate, the only real liability is the "socialist" label he uses. Also what the gently caress does Bernie Sanders have to do with Ron Paul? Being an old white guy who's popular on the internet is the only thing they have in common, their ideology and the way they present themselves is radically different.
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May 15, 2015 19:27
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ElrondHubbard posted:Since when have general elections been about actual policies and not optics? Vienna Circlejerk posted:
The person I was responding to said that he wasn't a viable candidate because his policies are too far left, so I was just responding to that. If you think there's something unrelated to his policies that would make him lose so badly feel free to point it out. Granted, Bernie is not going to be the nominee so this is just hypothetical, I just don't agree that he would necessarily be crushed in the general. ElrondHubbard posted:Like Ron Paul, Bernie has attracted the fanatical and often obnoxious loyalty of many first time voters / internet schmucks who have proceeded to annoy the hell out of everyone with their bizarre overconfidence, contemptuous / venomous attitude toward other candidates + their supporters, and general lack of understanding of how politics work in the US. There is of course a plethora of non-obnoxious, reasonable, and informed individuals who support Bernie, but they end up as collateral damage when the backlash hits against the former group, in this case being likened to Ron Paul fanatics. I think that anyone who seriously thinks he's going to be the nominee is a fool but I can't blame them for being excited. Benie is the only candidate on either side who is even remotely worthy of excitement, and this is coming from someone who is not a socialist or a leftist at all. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 20:14 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 20:07
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Series DD Funding posted:It's cool how you know people's "interests" better than they do. Yeah you're right how could we forget, some people just want someone who will stop the godless sodomites and abortionists.
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May 19, 2015 17:27
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Series DD Funding posted:What utility or interest, completely unfettered by emotion or belief, are you trying to improve? I want people of differing worldviews and belief systems to actually be able to live together instead of clamoring for legal discrimination or prison for those worldviews or belief systems with which I disagree. Many Republicans/Conservatives do not extend this courtesy to me, which is the fundamental issue with your false equivalence concern trolling bullshit. I'm arguing for policies that they don't like which at most will result in them paying a bit more in taxes, if that. They're arguing for legal discrimination at best or at worst imprisonment for me.
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May 19, 2015 18:34
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Series DD Funding posted:The paper said they were skeptical a minimum wage increase would significantly boost the economy. In that case, the increased spending demand of minwage workers must be balanced out somewhere else through higher prices. It's basic economics. If by basic you mean overly simplistic to the point where it's simple enough to be an example used in middle school economics class sure, unfortunately that's not very helpful in explaining actual real world phenomena.
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May 19, 2015 18:43
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Series DD Funding posted:Prices increase, and the workers making more than the new minwage are harmed (unless the increase reverberates and lets them get a raise as well). This would only happen if they didn't care about losing market share, which typically isn't the case. Again you are tackling this issue using middle school level economic models, this is not how things in the real world work. Where I work when pricing products the #1 concern is always gaining or retaining market share, profit margin is a secondary concern. In most cases if you tried to run a business concerned only about profit margin rather than your competition you aren't going to do very well.
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uncurable mlady posted:Obviously, the people that aren't doing that are the ones making at or near the median income because they don't have enough money to. It's reasonable to assume, however, that individuals who are currently making minimum wage and living paycheck to paycheck (or not) wouldn't simply start spending more money in order to continue living paycheck to paycheck; they might increase their debt service to free up more money later down the line, they might save more money so they have a cash cushion in case of emergencies, etc. etc. That's certainly theoretically possible but certainly you aren't suggesting that would be average behavior right? Most people I know have much more disposable income than a minimum wage earner but I still don't know a single person so frugal that in the event of a raise they would put it all into savings rather then spending more.
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