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CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Zwabu posted:

You didn't mention a fourth important possibility which is to run for Governor of Texas. Hell if Abbott can win that so can Cruz, if he plays his cards right and doesn't damage his brand too badly during this race. There he can posture as the rootingest tootingest gun slinging cowboy right winger without any conflict with his job description and have a fair platform to run from. I suspect this is the smartest and most high probability path for him to become President.

I don't know if he'll have the opportunity any time soon. Abbott is 58 and seems popular enough to hang on for three or four terms. Cruz is probably going to have to wait until his late 50s/early 60s to have a chance and at that point he'll probably have to make a choice between TX-GOV and another White House run unless he tries to primary Abbott or decides that he can wait until he's Trump's age to try again.

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A fifth possibility is to seek a Veep spot on the ticket but the way he's played the game so far makes that very unlikely in my view. (Unless he and Rubio came to an agreement literally in the next few days in order to consolidate the race, but I doubt either can agree who gets top bunk.) He doesn't help deliver any state that isn't already blood red. If you play the role of the conniving Machiavellian dirty trick puppet master you have to win the top spot, no one will want you as their Veep scheming away and having to have their food tasted, and having their Veep doing their own publicity grabs and undermining the Administration message all the time. He's also just not a likeable guy anyone would want to have around, either on the campaign trail or in their administration.

The Senate is a dead end for Cruz. It's pretty clear that he only viewed getting elected to it as a step to get a national profile where he could build his brand of being the Uncompromising Right Winger and then run for Prez during his first term. He obviously assumed he would actually make it all the way to the White House on his first go (in this way Obama's election is the father of Ted's and Marco's candidacies). There doesn't seem to be an obvious contingency plan or sensible way to continue towards the presidency via the Senate the way Ted has run his political career to date. Completely changing his brand to a humble reasonable Senator who can play with others is something I doubt is in him. If he did so he could build a Senate resume that could be the basis of a future Presidential run as a senior statesman of the party, but he'd have to abandon his old brand that he's cultivated to date as a real Senate career by definition would totally undermine what he currently stands for (he's kind of the Anti-Senator).

I suspect that, assuming he doesn't get the nom here that he will then look for the earliest possible time to run for TX governor and continue the game from there if successful. If he failed both in holding his Senate seat and in becoming Governor I think his political career would well and truly be over unless he decided to try for a spot on the Supreme Court the next time a non Trump Republican gets in.

100% agreed, and I can't imagine any candidate who would want Cruz hanging around as the next in line. One other possibility I forgot would be Cruz being named Attorney General, but that runs into the same dead end of Senate confirmation.

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CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Schnorkles posted:

Please let it be recorded for posterity that Donald Trump just strode into a primary site where Glenn Beck was midspeech stumping for Ted Cruz in the background and stole all the attention.

God Bless.

Tomorrow's Beck radio show will be glorious, will he spend 2 hours or all 3 whining about this slight on the Divine Word

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/623848295832666112

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Ahh Yes posted:

lmao


e: up! up! uppppppppppppppppppppppppp!

Those tweets will be in our grandchildrens history texts to explain why they were the first to take President Trump's famous helicopter rides

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Okay seriously what Super Tuesday states is Trump trailing in besides Texas, and is he behind Rubio in any of them?

There is an ancient poll showing Trump behind Rubio in Minnesota(mid-January,) a post-Iowa poll(2/4) has Cruz up in Arkansas, and Wyoming has no polling. Otherwise everything is Trump.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Montasque posted:

Taken from the Nevada thread:


Also the bullshit I am hearing from GOPe types is that Super Tuesday doesn't matter, what matters is Super Tuesday II.

what matters is super tuesday 2020, march 3rd 2020 is the day trumps presidency is over

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/702395929605890048

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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https://twitter.com/NolteNC/status/702468077603184641

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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The RNC wanted the early states to not matter as much in the grand scheme - even now Trump only has 1 qualifying state under Rule 40. The rule was changed from 5 states to 8 to let a candidate limp through the proportional states but win the WTA/WTM states later that allow them to get big delegate chunks and also qualify under Rule 40.

If you believe sites like CTH the whole framework was put in place to have tons of vote splitters in the race so Jeb could end up winning the nomination with ~20-25% support. The plan was set up in 2013-14 and didn't expect someone like Trump flipping the script and using the plan against them.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Alter Ego posted:

Doesn't the GOP go to winner-take-all at one point too?

WTA primaries/caucuses include

Marianas Islands (9)
Wisconsin (42)
Delaware (16)
Maryland (38)
Indiana (57)
California (172)
Florida (99)
Ohio (66)
Arizona (58)
Nebraska (36)
Montana (27)
New Jersey (51)
South Dakota (29)

Other states like IL PA and CT have either the district delegates or the at-large delegates as WTA, and most proportional states have a 50-85% WTA threshold.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/02/24/trump-wins-nevada.-rubio-cruz-settle-nothing./

quote:

And so we hurtle on towards the oblivion of Trump because the partisans of the various candidates who recognize Trump for the unfunny joke that he is refuse to let go of their delusions – delusions so massive that they are only eclipsed by the delusions of the candidates themselves.

Every drat election conservatives do this, letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, squabbling over allegiances to candidates who have no shot but who we want to see do well because we believe in helping to elevate their profile – meanwhile, a more moderate candidate gets rammed down our neck while we’re all backbiting and infighting.

Stupid party.

Only this time, the stakes are not conservative vs. moderate, they are conservative versus catastrophically incompetent fake Republican buffoon and possible Hillary Clinton stalking horse who will likely end the party as we know it and send the country into decades of Democrat rule.

We’ve got one shot at preventing total meltdown, and that’s an agreement to select a single candidate as soon as possible after Super Tuesday, and to ride that horse, even if it’s not our favorite horse, against Donald Trump. The candidates have one more week to make their case and then it’s time to start acting like adults, before the children take over for good.

:coolspot:

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Right Wing True Conservatives posted:

Trump is! A big baby poo poo man! He is bad and bad and I hate him! Do not vote the poopy man because I do not vote the angry mad wig man!

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Logikv9 posted:

God, people are so sensitive right now. Trump's just cyber-bullying everyone to death.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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rear end cobra posted:

CNN lady asking Bullet Necklace about racy Melania photoshoots. Is some idiot rival campaign whispering in the media's ear about that now? If so Trump's gonna lose his poo poo.

Breaking news: Donald Trump has pretty wife with a body people will pay to see naked

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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I wonder if the UK sites will take bets on whether or not Trump triggers Hillary into a seizure or stroke at their debates

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Oil of Paris posted:

Hitler was a very good thing for Israel

Before Hitler that land was known as Mandatory Palestine

Makes you think

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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yessssssssssssssssssss

http://theresurgent.com/rick-perry-for-president/

quote:

In Texas, the final criminal charges against Rick Perry have been dropped. The original indictment was drawn up by partisan Democrats intent on stopping Perry from being a viable Presidential candidate. It worked.

Rosemary Lehmberg, the District Attorney in Austin, TX, ran a public corruption unit. Ms. Lehmberg, an alcoholic, was arrested and became abusive to the police, trying to use her authority to get out of trouble. When Rick Perry threatened to veto legislation if it did not defund her public corruption unit, she had him indicted. Even national Democrats were outraged by her actions.

But those indictments have now been thrown out by the Texas judicial system.

As the Republican Party looks headed toward a protectionist, pro-abortion liberal and the Democrats look headed toward Hillary Clinton, Rick Perry may be needed back on the field for the good of his country.

I’d gladly support a Rick Perry third party run. I know a great many who would do so. Given both Hillary Clinton’s and Donald Trump’s lack of integrity, Perry would make a compelling and reassuring grown up alternative.


If Trump does get the Republican nomination, I would gladly support Rick Perry for President. A lot of others would too.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Jeb's store page no longer exists and redirects to his front page Thank You message

RIP guaca bowle, we would have snapped up tons of you on $10 clearance but you had to up and quit

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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MaxxBot posted:

There's nothing the likes of Erick Erickson deserve more than to be constantly under attack by the Trumpstaffel. Too bad he will probably never become self-aware enough to realize how much he contributed to this happening.

https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/702543234946486272

the only thing erickson needs to watch out for is adult onset diabetes and no security team is going to stop you from putting down the fork

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Trump will reach deep into his hair and retrieve another, smaller Trump and announce it as his VP

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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bernie wants a big national jobs program

trump has been way ahead of this from day 1, wall building gonna require a lot of hands and sweat equity

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Logikv9 posted:

I can't wait for Vice President Alex Jones to host his daily conspiracy show at the Naval Observatory.

Renamed Trump Tower Observatory Circle

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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It will probably be Jeff Sessions because why the gently caress does Trump have to pick someone to try and swing a state when your target is 500EV

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:

It's over after super tuesday.

why wait a week to say it, it's over now

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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its ok rubio just had a firmware upgrade pushed, he had to cancel this stuff to make sure any hotfixes are applied before the debate

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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maybe cruz and rubio should both drop out, thats why carson has been biding his time waiting for the perfect moment for an awakening

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Mystery Goomba posted:

Why is everyone so quick to write off Rubio all the time? Him not doing a town hall hosted by Hannity does not mean his campaign is collapsing. Relax.

his string of second, third, and fifth place victories are doing a good job of that for him

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Good Opinions

https://twitter.com/Right2Liberty/status/702594770057572352

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Firebert posted:

Does Rubio have a credible path to the nomination without doing really well on Super Tuesday? I know Florida will be a big delegate swing that he might be favoured to win, but his polling looks bad in other winner-take-all states like Arizona/NJ/Ohio.

- Survive Super Tuesday, maybe win Minnesota and beat Cruz in most of the other states
- Win FL, OH, IL, be competitive in the others on 3/15
- Convince the blue/purple WTA states after 3/15 that he has the momentum and is a better choice than Trump

I wouldn't really call that credible but it is a path

Also Cruz probably has to drop out somewhere in there and hope that the Cruz people left are anti-Trump more than they are anti-establishment

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Rubio was only in this race as a favor to Jeb to act as a splitter up until Florida, at which point he would drop out once Jeb secured Florida's 99 delegates with 22% of the vote and waited patiently for his position in Jeb's cabinet (or a golden parachute at a think tank/K street firm in the case of Clinton winning)

Then Trump showed up and the whole thing came crashing down, he never asked for this

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Texas poll from Houston Public Media is completely at odds with the Emerson poll showing Cruz only up 1:

Cruz 35
Trump 20
Rubio 8
Carson 7

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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https://twitter.com/DemsRRealRacist/status/702612952591892480

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Wait Carson hasn't dropped out yet? I entirely forgot about him.

If you were getting $40,000 worth of Secret Service protection daily you'd stay in until the bitter end too

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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HOTLANTA MAN posted:

If nobody cares enough about you to come after you what's the point

Nice to always have someone to talk to

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Zohar posted:

Mitt is a fool. mess.

Mitt is a fool. waste.

Mitt is a fool. big, fat mistake.

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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The GOPe is going to go all in on a stumping tomorrow and it will be just as transparent as the crowd packing at the SC debate

Trump wins every state by 30 and the offices of the National Review put in an order for hundreds of meters of good, stiff rope

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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THA TITTY THRILLER posted:

Someone said way earlier in the thread that Ted Cruz is the guy at your office who quotes lines from well known comedies in substitution for any real personality and I think that really hit the nail on the head

he couldnt even be the good kids in the hall/mike myers kind of canadian :(

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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http://ismarcowinningyet.com

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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Montasque posted:

This Megyn Kelly townhall is an ambush and Donald Trump was right to skip it. They buttered up Cruz and now have a person calling him out for being too hardcore and killing the gang of 8.

Donald Trump, man of good instincts

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CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

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https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/702675716429770753

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