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bagual posted:When you lose in politics in South America, sometimes it means the death squads are coming for you and your friends, don't give me that wishywashy poo poo. Murderous right-wing dictators go live in Europe and get eulogised by world leaders as a really nice guy and all round gentleman.
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I get the impression that Americans underestimate how politicised the judiciary can be in Latin America, though I don't know if any are as bad as Brazil. Even the less politicised tend to bend rather than stand against the direction of the wind. However thanks to Trump, they're going to get a taste of it.
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qnqnx posted:Did you miss the memo about the political incarcerations of any opposition candidate with a real shot at winning, or does that not fit your narrative?
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Sephyr posted:And recently, with the reactionary wave, it's been shelved. Hell, maconheiro (pot smoker) has effectively joined the chud's lexicon along with 'communist' as a group that should be shot on sight by all cops and well-meaning citizens.
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How "massive" were the protests against Evo anyway? Most news sites only show low angle stuff or small mobs burning poo poo, I haven't seen anything like the massive streets full of people like in Chile or Ecuador. Edit: even then, it's hard to compare the concentrated urban anti-Evo protestors with the more scattered country supporters. hoiyes fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Demiurge4 posted:I’m 100% on the this is a coup train but I’m still very leery of the way Morales got his term extensions because it’s classic South American strongman poo poo. Like with Venezuela it’s important not to give carte Blanche support to lovely regimes and while I don’t think Morales is lovely I do think his moves on democracy have been counter productive to a long term socialist movement. Centering power on the figurehead is a red flag and he should have allowed a smooth succession on the left because that’s an important part of democracy. Like, are you also leery of the way term limits were initially included in 2009 constitution under threat of continuing violence from the right, a measure that was included to specifically target Morales rather than any principle of fairness? Because it's classic South American coup groundwork poo poo. How many constitutional handwringers are going to appear when the new government inevitably rolls roughshod over the Indigenous protections and barriers to privatisation also included in the 2009 constitution. This will also probably be "Morales' fault" for breaking the sanctity of the constitution or some other chud logic. Look at the soft coup in Brazil, Lula respected the term limits made a "smooth succession", stepped aside when he was the most popular elected leader in SA, and when his turn came around again and he was leading the polls, he was illegally jailed to prevent his candidacy.
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Nov 11, 2019 11:48
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There is also the counter-argument that the residents of any particular country are more likely to be victims of targeted, long-running misinformation campaigns, and get their information from narrow sources or hearsay, vs a neutral observer who has taken an interest. The local political stuff I hear repeated from my in-laws, hand on heart, is often staggeringly far from the truth.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LivPosting/status/1194058864964120576 Also that loving WaPo article, included a tweet from noted compulsive liar, fascist and military dictatorship apologist Bolsonaro in it's Was this a coup? explainer.
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Nov 12, 2019 23:36
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IIRC general strikes in Bolívia are pretty effective, because exports rely on road infrastructure and shutting down only a few main roads essentially brings the country to a standstill. If the Evo supporters don't back down, it will be bloody.
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Nov 13, 2019 02:18
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Tollymain posted:why dont the coup plotters back down Fair point, I should have said "unless". It was more a comment on the likelihood of bloodshed, not where the blame/onus lies. Because the fascists are simply not going to just stop halfway through their coup, not when it has US approval, we don't live in that world. It looks like the ultras are going to try and get away with as much violence as they can in their "chaotic period" window, before they will have to settle down and pretend to be respectable for the international audience.
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Prince Myshkin posted:I don't have it handy but someone found old tweets or FB posts where she called indigenous people Satan worshipers.
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Nov 13, 2019 06:22
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Also, thread title should be "Vai tomar no coup"
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Nov 13, 2019 06:33
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jmkarg/status/1195448438906859520 Lots of orderly transition to democracy going down in Cochabamba. Edit: oh poo poo that other link 
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Argentina refused asylum? Just more evidence that Camacho isn't a Nazi imo.
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Redczar posted:While it doesn’t sound as pervasive as you’re making it sound there, it definitely seems to be happening here in Chile too. There has been a selection evidence, and constant accusations of police participating in violent actions, including uniformed police participating in looting, and even one incident where uniformed officers accidentally beat the poo poo out of a plainclothesed officer who infiltrated the protests.
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Negrostrike posted:Meanwhile in Uruguay, the right-wing candidate is winning the presidential elections.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:38
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megalodong posted:it's when you have a ranked choice system (so you give a preference number to some or all of the candidates), and the voter simply assigns their numbers based off the order the candidates appear on the voting form. Yeah, I used the wrong term, I guess I meant spoiled or blank ballots.
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Nov 26, 2019 00:33
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MikeStmria posted:There are other jobs, like medical internship that recive no payment.
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ThanosWasRight posted:Can we cover that paying people to go to school and study isn't even a loving leftist thing. It's the year of our Lord 2019, if it doesn't functionally transfer wealth to the top 10%, it's leftist. (I wish I was being facetious)
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V. Illych L. posted:funny thing about capitalism: owning capital has, for the last 100 years, been more profitable than working, i.e. the system encourages ownership over work. so yes, in a sense social status doesn't matter much: however, if you've inherited anything, that matters quite a lot
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OAS claims the sketchiness happens after the 84% interruption, yet if you drew a trend line using just the data up to 84% it looks like it would pass the 50% threshold anyway. Some really big brain thinking needed to get "widespread undeniable election fraud" from that limp OAS summary.
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Squalid posted:Oh also its funny how many Morales allies in the labor movement immediately accepted these findings, I wonder how they felt about it?
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Spice World War II posted:They' alReADy AgrEeD To EleCTionS! Merely 9 months after their "mandate" ran out! Oh, and they will be cancelled anyway! Hope the MAS comes back with "given poor leadership seems to be the biggest indicator of poor outcomes and the two worst performing countries are right-wing, racist, fascist populists, seems like voting you out is the greatest public health initiative possible".
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That's an exit poll?
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RPZip posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1325868311482163202 To be fair, it's not like people in the US have a contemporary example of what a failed attempt to keep power would look like? Lmao This is straight up projection.
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proletariando posted:Bolivia needs a port for its navy
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Dec 22, 2021 02:25
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Is that not the monthly salary?
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i say swears online posted:this doesn't matter and is illusory; a good salary in norway is one million kroner a year. their currency by base number is weaker but they have higher living standards in their country than the us For white collar, university educated professionals it seems fine, especially seeing as it's an average and thus hugely distorted by massive C-suite salaries.
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fnox posted:Yeah, Lula's pretty much poised to win, but that's looking like they're going to have Bolsonaro's far right just constantly getting in the way of everything.
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At what point does "happens every election“ stop being "very unusual"? Edit: maybe it's unusual because it's not the candidate on the right
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