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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Optimus_Rhyme posted:

I work in an office where someone complained that someone elses perfume was bothering her. I can't even imagine what vitriol dogs would bring (from cat people).

dogs in the office are hugely disruptive and just loving terrible

lots of people are frightened by dogs, allergic to dogs, or just plain don't want to deal with dog odors, dog barking, and dog piddle in the breakroom.

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the only thing worse than people bringing dogs to the office is having actual permanent dogs who live in the office

bringing your dog to the office is cruel to your coworkers

having a dog live in your office is cruel to the dog

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the great thing about cats is that they're intensely territorial

no one is tempted to bring a cat out to a bar to hang

no one has ever tried to bring a cat into my office

your cat stays home and shits in a box and i never, ever have to see it or smell it or interact with it unless i am stupid enough to visit your terrible house

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

PuTTY riot posted:

we have a guy who sometimes trains diabetic alert dogs for an organization that sells them to ppl who need them. his dogs are rly well behaved and really stay the gently caress out of the way to the point that you dont notice them beyond 'ugh i wish i could pet u, ur a good dog'

what the gently caress is a diabetic alert dog for

it's 2014

how can it possibly be cheaper or better to train a dog than wear a loving insulin pump

edit: i just realized the answer is "san francisco landlords." you get a $20,000 diabetic alert dog in order to smuggle it into your terrible house despite the lease you voluntarily signed

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

infernal machines posted:

it's great, by any reasonable definition uber is a criminal enterprise. an international criminal enterprise. their entire business model is illegal pretty much top-to-bottom in almost every market they operate in. they run counter-intelligence and smear campaigns against their "enemies" in business, the press, and possibly even in government.

the thing about criminal enterprises is that RICO is surprisingly specific. it's a law pretty much custom-tailored to prosecute the mob and nobody else

to fill out rico predicates you can't just break the law for money. you gotta break federal laws for money, and they have to be federal laws about things the mob ran back in the day: extortion, drugs, prostitution, pornography, mail/wire fraud

just being an openly and unabashedly criminal enterprise isn't enough. we apparently need new laws to prohibit businesses that freely state they will have employees break the law for money, if the law broken isn't about mob stuff

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Awia posted:

asda in the uk is in trouble atm because they were found to be paying their female warehouse employees less than the male ones and now they have to pay back pay for 10 years lol

this is not illegal in the u.s.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Endless Mike posted:

i briefly dated a girl who commuted two hours each way. she was a teacher, so it's not like more local jobs would be difficult to find.

seniority doesn't transfer very well

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Jonny 290 posted:

She is assumed to be a thief until proven otherwise. All employees are

at the wages wal-mart pays, this is a reasonable assumption

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Fabricated posted:

sucks that none of us will likely live to see eitehr the popular revolution where capital gets beheaded in the streets or get to live in a proper dystopian cyberpunk future ruled by corporations

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
they fired people over a 17% discount code on a service that virtually none of their contractors could afford to use

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Sagebrush posted:

they're right though. it was about states' rights.

the big one under discussion was that some of the states wanted the right to treat people as property

however i've found that the best response to this is just to quote texas' declaration of secession


like
i don't really know how any other ways to read that one

all four of the declarations of secession are like this

(the other traitors skipped directly to ordinances of succession and didn't publish flowery documents about why they wanted out)

South Carolina posted:

For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution.
[....]
We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

Georgia posted:

For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property
[...]
These efforts have in one instance led to the actual invasion of one of the slave-holding States, and those of the murderers and incendiaries who escaped public justice by flight have found fraternal protection among our Northern confederates.

These are the same men who say the Union shall be preserved.

this one is special because they drop the slavery bomb right in the fuckin preamble

Mississippi posted:

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization.

Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Dec 13, 2014

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Condiv posted:

tl;dr, bubble's bursting in 2015, gtfo asap

this article suggests the bubble will pop when interest rates go up and non-joke investments become available to the lords of capital. interest rates can only be raised and investment opportunities can only occur if we see strong economic growth.

tl;dr: a functioning, growing economy in the u.s. will be what pops the idiot tech bubble

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the upside is that when all of the idiot startup manchildren are dumped unceremoniously onto the job market, economic growth might make a lot of opportunities available in real firms that produce and sell products/services for profit

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Beast of Bourbon posted:

i had to roll over my mom's checking accounts and combined all of them and got wells fargo to give me the super premiere checking account and it has an awesome .11% interest rate!!

the government's inflation estimate is at 1.7%.

it works out that you are paying wells fargo 1.56% of your assets every year just to not lose your money. for perspective, a hedge fund typically charges 2% for the active management of the sharpest financial minds on earth.

retail banks now charge 3/4ths as much as hedge funds

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Pinterest Mom posted:

i guess if you define "sharp minds" as "managed to convince people they should be charged 2% to get returns that are worse than the index", that's a defensible statement to make

ok, "the most expensive minds"

a savings account at a retail bank now rivals the most expensive investment products known to man. ordinary people are paying wells fargo as much as capitalists and old money pay their fund managers

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

FrozenVent posted:

uh the money in a hedge fund is also subject to inflation also the bank isn't charging you inflation
these are fair points too, so let me amend my complaint even further:

the effective costs of a savings account are now comparable to the historical costs of very expensive active managers

and that is bullshit

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
0% interest and 1.7% inflation is a really lovely, messed up spread

i'm sorry i mentioned hedge funds at all

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

FrozenVent posted:

you lose that money no mater where you put it. mattress, bank account, hedge fund, blueberry futures

the mattress thing is really important

if interest rates were 5%, but inflation was 6.7%, the spread on a savings account would be (about) the same, but you would be crazy to keep your money in a mattress.

when interest rates are 0%, but inflation is 1.7%, you might as well use a mattress or a safe in the wall who the gently caress cares what are money market accounts even good for

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Necc0 posted:

banks have crazy access to liquidity right now so in all likelihood they aren't doing jack poo poo with your money or are making a negligible amount

yes: they're buying hundreds of billions in treasuries. 1.99 trillion as of october

yields are pretty poo poo on those assets. so they have to pay out even lower interest on time deposits than they receive from treasuries or tips

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

super nailgun posted:

Anyone else lust after Japanese market only Toshiba Librettos back when they were basically the only netbook size option (before netbooks were a thing and when that form factor was the subnotebook or whatever)?

same, but sony

sadly none of the .jp-market stuff ever ran linux or freebsd worth a drat

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Main Paineframe posted:

hope you're young enough to lose your entire 401k in the event that the bubble pops earlier than you suspect. that's the thing about bubbles - a lot of people realize they're bubbles but still go all-in maximum-risk anyway because they think they'll have some way of knowing when to pull out before it pops

this should probably be your cue to pull out

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Bloody posted:

fwiw the some of densest (big) cities in the world already have crazy height restrictions, such as paris (6 stories unless you a church) and somerville (3 family dumpsters as far as the eye can see)

the densest metro in america is LA. there are very few tall buildings in LA or the surrounding communities. what they do have is miles and miles and miles of ugly 3- and 4-family houses ("dingbats") separated by strips of apartment blocks.

the problem in san francisco isn't that they haven't built high enough in the densest urban core (i think one transamerica pyramid is quite enough thank you). it's that they won't knock over the garbage detached homes in the presidio or the painted ladies or all the idiot 1950s garbage in palo alto

SF and the bay could stand to look a lot more like LA if they ever want to see middle class families living comfortably again

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
in summary, here is my three point plan for fixing san francisco:
  1. forcibly demolish all the beautiful detached homes. (ugly ones can stay, market forces will take care of them)
  2. build more apartment buildings
  3. eat the rich

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

LA: a worthy goal for urban planning

compared to san francisco, it's half the cost of living with about the same wages

i don't know that it would be a model for anywhere else, but a lot of things look good compared to the clusterfuck that is the bay area

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Elder Postsman posted:

there's talk of an 80 story building going up here in minneapolis. it'l be 100 ft/23 floors taller than the current tallest. p cool imo.

right now there are four separate residential towers all over 1,000 ft under construction in manhattan

i can't wait for the tech bubble to pop and interest rates to go up so this madness can stop. there is no reason to build 100 story residential towers anywhere on earth, that is not a thing the world needs

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

BONGHITZ posted:

heh the bay area is the best place to live on the loving planet

if you bought your house for $50,000 forty years ago and you pay ten dollars a year in property tax, sure

let all the young people pay for govt services, i'll just sit here and drink my imported whiskey and stare at the german luxury cars i bought with a HELOC

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

gently caress you i want arcologies and i want them now

yeah the thing is the units in these buildings cost $20 million or more. they're super tall and super skinny, so you have maximum window frontage and minimum usable sq footage

it's not like these are megatowers for ordinary human beings to live in. nobody needs more glass-walled monuments to the phallic might of the capitalist class

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Elder Postsman posted:

the 95 million dollar penthouse is already sold :eyepop:

sold sight unseen

that particular property, they demand that you put down the full purchase price without seeing a drat thing. not even a tour of the construction sight. nothing

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
ugh i wrote a post but deleted it post because even talking about it makes me ill

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the great thing about condo buildings, as opposed to all the other insane bubble investments: a building remains a capital asset as long as it's habitable.

when uber and klout and yo all go the great pets.com in the sky, nothing of consequence remains. nothing was built. society accrues no value from their past existence.

when a developer throws up a building and it stays 80% vacant for a few years, eventually poo poo gets sold for pennies on the dollar and yuppie condos become middle class apartments. bubbles come and go, buildings have a tendency to stick around

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Maluco Marinero posted:

I duck out of the tech bubble thread due to forgetting to update my bookmarks to the new thread, and we're still talking about houses?

the tech bubble and the bizarre things happening in property are tightly linked

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

infernal machines posted:

well except for the part where the condos are 450 to maaaaybe 900 sq. ft. the only middle class gonna buy/rent those is DINKs.

when they were expensive, they were inhabited by DINKs

when they fall into the middle class, all of a sudden you have regular families living in them. yes, families with children. and often only one parent. you know, regular americans.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

infernal machines posted:

i can only imagine two kid+ families living in the 1 bedroom + "den"* condos we've been building here for the last five years

* den is actually a not especially large walk in closet.

you do not want to imagine it, but that's life for regular people

(or did you think property values could double and double again while wages stagnated for forty years and no one would notice?)

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Sagebrush posted:

when i was a kid we had some family friends in nyc who lived in a 1br. they had a living room, a kitchen, the bedroom, and a bathroom. the dad and the son slept on separate beds in the bedroom, which was basically just the kid's room except at night, and the mom slept on a pull out couch in the living room.

to answer the immediate question, i have no idea

that's quite luxurious.

new york legal code about housing poo poo posted:

(1) Every person occupying an apartment in a Class A or Class B multiple dwelling or in a tenant-occupied apartment in a one- or two-family dwelling shall have a liveable area of not less than 80 square feet. The maximum number of persons who may occupy any such apartment shall be determined by dividing the total liveable floor area of the apartment by 80 square feet. For every two persons who may lawfully occupy an apartment, one child under four may also reside therein, except that a child under four is permitted in an apartment lawfully occupied by one person. No residual floor area of less than 80 square feet shall be counted in determining the maximum permitted occupancy for such apartment. The floor area of a kitchen or kitchenette shall be included in measuring the total liveable floor area of an apartment but the floor area for private halls foyers, bathrooms or[ water closets shall be excluded.

emphasis mine

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Citizen Tayne posted:

Ha, my community is nearly twice as dense as LA, suck my dick Californifailures

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dormont,_Pennsylvania)

the central business district of your lovely small town is denser. the metro area is not.

LA achieves its high average density by having an unusually sparse downtown and an usually dense set of suburbs.

by contrast, new york and chicago are hyper-dense at the core and very diffuse at the edges. the average density is lower than LA even though the peak density is incomparably higher

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Citizen Tayne posted:

I grew up in a family with eight kids and two adults in a 1280 square foot 3br 1ba rented duplex.

tori cmos is a Real American

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

FMguru posted:

the greatest living american (jimmy carter) has almost singlehandedly eliminated hookworm's cousin (guinea worm) in africa

in 30 years it went from infecting 3.5 million people a year to 138

good work jimmy

:unsmith:

hookworm has re-appeared in the american south

reminder: hookworm is a disease you get from walking barefoot through human feces

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

EVGA Longoria posted:

it's pretty ridiculous to say that instead of saying sexual harassment you should lie about why you left

basically, tell the truth. if they think it's a problem they were a poo poo company in the first place

yeah you should be completely honest with everyone all the time

by all means, when the interviewer asks you about how your day is going, tell her about your hemorrhoids

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

suffix posted:

never bad-mouth your previous company in a interview imo
frame it in terms of what you're looking for in the new job

if your previous boss smoked crack at work and held klan meetings in the lunch room, maybe you're looking for a professional work atmosphere with good management to help you grow as a professional, and you feel your interpersonal skills are better applied at a more diverse workplace

if there was a huge public scandal you can add meaningful pauses for the interviewer to nod sympathetically in

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

rotor posted:

300k is pretty deep into the "gently caress you" zone but not so deep as to be completely out of the question if they want you bad enough

"I'm thinking a number that starts with '3'"

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