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CompeAnansi posted:Can someone who has been following the game more closely than me help me understand this stat line? I don't think I've ever seen a WN8 that high with that many battles played... A combination of WN8 being
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 17:27 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 00:07 |
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I'm just going to leave this here, and mention how much I like this new map http://wotreplays.com/site/1867587#overlord-steelion-is-7 carry mode ENGAGE
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# ¿ May 11, 2015 03:02 |
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For those in my platoon at the time, I finally figured out the Mystery of the Magic KV--3 HE Shell! Turns out there's a tiny sliver of armor directly underneath the observation ports on the front of the JT-88 that's only 30mm thick. The loving KV-3 managed to sneak an HE shell into it, and full penned.
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# ¿ May 11, 2015 21:35 |
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BadLlama posted:You own TOGs so when you complete missions for free togs you get free gold instead. WayAbvPar posted:I will take any free premium. I am not proud.
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 23:51 |
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e: Didn't realize till afterwards that it auto-logged me into West! No loving wonder. Steelion fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 15, 2015 |
# ¿ May 15, 2015 21:21 |
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Sure but it's pretty unimpressive. http://wotreplays.com/site/1880333#self I basically sit on a rock, murder the poo poo out of everything I see, and sob quietly to myself as the other side of the map literally does't give even token resistance to their tanks.
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 21:37 |
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Saying the caern is a better armored cent is kind of misleading. It's still paper thin everywhere, but the upper front plate might bounce something once in a blue moon. The turret/mantlet on both is pretty solid though.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 06:37 |
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Soviet arty is weird, in that you get a massive 203mm howitzer at tier 7, with all the associated pros (hilarious damage at tier) and cons (godawful accuracy), but then you use basically the same gun until tier 10 where you end up with a relatively small gun compared to the other arty (batchat notwithstanding). I hear the 261 is fantastic with AP, thanks to the relatively high accuracy for an arty.
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# ¿ May 24, 2015 04:12 |
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KurdtLives posted:
64% over 100 games here, I actually kinda enjoy it my secret is that I only used the 5.5 inch gun for like 10 of those battles, plus a lot of platooning.
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# ¿ May 24, 2015 09:23 |
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HEAT doesn't normalize, and gets royally hosed over by spaced armor and tracks. All else being equal APCR is vastly better, and even APCR with less pen can be more reliably useful than high-pen HEAT. e: Does HEAT get any benefit from overmatching? Steelion fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 26, 2015 |
# ¿ May 26, 2015 03:30 |
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The Challenger is more or less literally a tier 7 Firefly/Achilles, with just enough mobility to get yourself into trouble, a slower turret, and literally zero redeeming qualities.
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# ¿ May 26, 2015 19:00 |
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Rorac posted:I'm using aslains modpack, is anybody else getting this issue where the game never loads past the loading screen? Like, icons pop up and the battle happens and the icons even move around as people drive, but you can't do anything and never actually get into the game proper. Thanks for mentioning this, I was having the same problem and I resorted to just dumping all my mods so I could play a few games today :V.
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 07:13 |
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Atomizer posted:You're using the 76 mm S-54 on the T-34, but the 57 mm ZiS-4 is by far the better gun. The former has slightly better AP pen and more alpha, but that's it; the latter has better handling, DPM, and APCR pen, all by a long ways. Compare the accuracy & aim time between the guns, and there's no contest between the two. The 76 has a little higher alpha at the cost of 20% DPM, which is huge (it's about 1500 vs. 1200.) The 57's slightly lower AP pen is still workable, and the APCR is a massive improvement (almost 70% increase in penetration.) It does indeed suck to have such a peashooter, but even the damage is workable at tier 5; it especially helps that it's accurate enough to hit weakspots. Often in cases where a tank has two comparable guns of different caliber, a consideration is the actual caliber itself due to overpenetration opportunities, but in this case the 57 is just so much better in almost every respect that the smaller shell size doesn't matter. You're still going to be able to overpenetrate some lower-tier stuff, and the 76's handling is poor enough to make hitting thin roof or deck armor unlikely. This is why I always enjoy running into pubs with the 76. Also, I'm pretty sure you're massively understating the DPM advantage that the 57mm has. Admittedly mine has vents and a rammer, but I poo poo out one 85 damage shell every 1.94 seconds. I have like 2600 DPM, which is just obscene for tier 5. The top turret brings the base RoF up to ~26. The A-43/44 actually get competitive reloads on the 76mm, so it becomes an option then, but the 57 is a goddamn beast at tier 5 on the T-34.
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# ¿ May 31, 2015 16:12 |
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As far as I know I'm the only one who'll say that For real though, I'd rather drop a smaller shell on the roof armor of tanks every <10 seconds than hit them in the side or front armor for about the same damage every ~25. Plus the better gun arc means I can drop shells on things behind cover easier. The shorter range is annoying, but the SP is mobile enough (don't even need to turn around!) to bug out if the enemy starts pushing through. Basically the 4.5 inch is more fun for me to use, after having used both. E: but get the 203mm holy poo poo why is this up for debate. Steelion fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 1, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 19:23 |
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Hellsau posted:My clan let's people bring lovely tanks for strongholds since if we lose whatever next game (but only one or two poo poo tanks at a time). Some dude ground through the FV207 in strongholds - the amount of times he'd hit a tier eight directly for piddling damage was disgusting. Dude direct hit a loving IS-3 for 53 damage. How is that acceptable for a tier eight artillery with a thirty second reload? Christ even when I'm shooting my little 4.5 inch peashooter I can do more than that to an IS-3. And I can do it 3x as fast!
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 20:29 |
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R. Mute posted:I just had to proximity spot a Jagdtiger who then shot me straight in the face. I was driving my Obj 268 and mutually proxy-spotted an ISU-152 a couple days ago on Prokhorovka. I was just driving down the west side of the map cleaning up the last few tanks on their team, sixth sense went off, and there he was, 50m away.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 21:35 |
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Hey McGavin, what mod is it that gives the live penetration indicator? Can't find anything like it on the mods forum.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 07:59 |
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From the icon it's probably more related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingu
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 00:41 |
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Hmm, it's been like half a year and several patches, plus an HD model, since I played my IS-3 in something other than strongholds. I wonder if it's still as good as I remember in pub battles? http://wotreplays.com/site/1952078#sacred_valley-steelion-is-3 Yeah, still good. e: It's no 10k damage 8 kill turbocarry, but it's a pretty solid example of what the IS-3 does well, specifically putting 122mm holes in things from short range, and bouncing poo poo off the turret.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2015 07:21 |
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Gonna play the poo poo outta them when they get released.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 17:47 |
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It always seemed weird to me that mediums had only one real weakness, poor armor, and that the fact that they all had really high pen guns sort of made that a moot point, since when you're shooting 260 pen silver shells everything has poor armor
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2015 19:39 |
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The bishop's only flaw is that it's slow. The FV 304 fixes that, and while the gun isn't as hilariously OP at tier 6 as it is at 5, it's still really goddamn good. Roof armor doesn't really change much as you go up tiers! I'll probably get flak for this but I've had success using the same drat gun at tier 7 in the Crusader SP. Hitting roof armor every 9 seconds tends to do more damage than hitting side and front armor or tracks every 25, even with the smaller caliber shells.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 08:39 |
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You can't make me! Real talk though I've used the bigger gun a bit more lately and while I still think the small gun is more fun to use, the 5.5 inch isn't bad. You just have to aim for softer targets since the shell just doesn't have the flight angle or pen to deal with heavier armor. E: that reminds me, does fire damage not count for missions? I nailed a black prince twice and briefly set him on fire for ~1100 damage, but didn't get the "do 1000 damage to a heavy tank" mission. Steelion fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jun 30, 2015 |
# ¿ Jun 30, 2015 08:52 |
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http://www.wotstats.org/stats/na/steelion/ Hmm. Apparently I am Good At Heavy Tanks? I honestly don't know how I have almost 3400 WN8 in the IS-3. It's a fantastic tank! Am I really doing that much compared to the average player? I also really like my SPG stats. All medicore or bad except the 304 and Crusader, and then there's the M41, where I have 2800 WN8 over 250 battles. Preeeeeetty sure that was before any of the big arty nerfs happened, and the thing got a much larger gun, so my 1500 average damage in a tier 5 arty is artificially inflating that score a ton e:solid 3400 in the caernarvon At least there I can understand it a bit, since the Caern is a kind of weird tank. Steelion fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jul 13, 2015 |
# ¿ Jul 13, 2015 21:41 |
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Atomizer posted:To be fair, the E-50 is more like a heavy tank than all those other mediums. I mean, without the top engine it has like 11 specific power, and that only goes up to about 14 with it. The T-54 is 20 maxed out, 30p is 22, whereas the E-75 is about 10 and the 50 120 is over 16. The E-50 isn't too sluggish, but in terms of mobility & playstyle it's nowhere near the "classic" medium tanks like the T-54, 30p, LeoP, etc. Still fun though! The E-50 also has a 60 kph top speed, so if you can get a bit of a hill to cruise down you can absolutely pick up some insane speed, compared to how mobile it usually is on flat ground.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2015 22:10 |
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WayAbvPar posted:So apparently 9.9 came out today and broke all the mods. In true WG form, they don't even have a 9.9 patch notes thread up, so I have no idea what is even in it. http://worldoftanks.com/en/content/docs/99-updatenotes/
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 17:31 |
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Welp.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 05:39 |
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I don't care if they're garbage, I'm going to have so much fun in those things. I don't remember, are they supposed to have competitive armor, or are these going to be like upgunned TOGs?
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 17:30 |
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Bort Bortles posted:I have a feeling they are going to be hot poo poo with rice-paper armor and low velocity low pen guns. See that's what I'm afraid of, but the fact that they pulled the Mauschen for being poo poo when it at least had armor gives me some measure of hope that the line won't be *that* bad.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 18:02 |
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This makes me sad I've already finished my conq grind.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2015 01:15 |
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You know that feeling when the other team has a SIMP and a reroll platoon, and all you have is yours and a triple baddie platoon? That feeling is called Victory. Also sore shoulders. http://wotreplays.com/site/2027342#windstorm-steelion-t34
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2015 03:39 |
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5 seconds from shotgunning a tank and winning the game, when my connection to the server just flat out stops. Still can't log back in.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2015 01:40 |
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They need to stop teasing us and just release the tanks already Lookit all them rivets
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2015 21:23 |
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The Black Prince's Bullshittium armor is literally the whole point of the tank. The fact that it's physically too slow to overextend yourself in, it's comically nimble for it's speed and weight, and has British Gun Handling (tm) are just icing on the cake
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 04:59 |
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Pornographic Memory posted:and any tank is weak if you shoot it in the butt. Unless it's the Excelsior e: also arguably the KV-5
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2015 20:15 |
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Yeah the Matilda is hilarious when it's top tier, and even when it's bottom tier the gun has such great DPM and pen that it's still useful. e: I was really bad in the tank, but I think that's my own fault more than the tank's Steelion fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Aug 7, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:29 |
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I guess if it works, stick with it
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2015 23:43 |
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:
T71... Bouncy? It gets triple overmatched literally anywhere by 76mm shells.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 05:14 |
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It's hard to tell sometimes, considering the bad opinions this thread tends to cultivate. Speaking of stupid people, watch me not die when I get myself way in over my head! Whether I'm the stupid one of the other team is is left as an exercise to the viewer. http://wotreplays.com/site/2071094#serene_coast-steelion-type_64
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 06:08 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 00:07 |
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So, this was a productive evening. Props to Atomizer and Jal_Rudal for the games! Gonna post some of the highlight games for me. First: The IS-3 is a goddamn amazing tank, and there is no other tank in the game I'd rather brawl with. 3 and a half tanks enter, one tank leaves. http://wotreplays.com/site/2071164#prokhorovka-steelion-is-3 Second: The STA's gun is pretty nice, assuming it behaves itself and doesn't bounce off the sides of T34s. Solid 4.7k damage game, most of it shooting at tanks through a bush. http://wotreplays.com/site/2071186#prokhorovka-steelion-sta-1 Third: I was hoping to get LT-14, but I think this was a more productive game in the end. Somehow 2500 damage to tier 8s isn't enough for an ace, by the way. http://wotreplays.com/site/2071192#siegfried_line-steelion-type_64 Steelion fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Aug 9, 2015 |
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