World of Tanks: Fun in world of tanks? Better nerf it.

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KurdtLives: Dec 22, 2004; Ladies and She-Hulks can't resist Murdock's Big Hallway Energy

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I honestly wouldn't recommend buying it. Full price for a T8 premium without preferential MM...no thanks. If you need a German medium crew trainer, buy a T-25 or spring for a Warcrime while they're on sale. Sure, the T-25 sees T7s like a normal T5, but it's more easily handled than seeing T9s and 10s, kind of like playing a T-34 with the 76mm.

I also kind of have to agree with ~he who must not be named~ that the Panther 88 seems kind of like a 'trap tank' since only the supertesters got to try it out before it was put in the shop, and those who didn't get the 907 (or just Wehraboos with a fetish for being penetrated by large Slavic, French, and American loads) might be tempted to buy 'the new premium' just to feel special, without doing their homework first.

4775g for both the Warcrime and T-25, but honestly 750g for just the T-25 is the better deal, since you *really* have to pack a ton of gold in the Warcrime to be viable against other T7s and 8s. Don't even bother asking about the PzIV Schmallturm. =/

Been playing since March, just occurred to look for thread here. Got the heads up on the E25 leaving the shop and bought one, thanks goons.

What tank is a Warcrime?

# ¿ Dec 25, 2014 04:37

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:41

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

The PzV M10. It's a Panther that's been altered cosmetically to loosely resemble an M10 tank destroyer. The Nazis did it during the Ardennes Offensive because Hitler thought it'd be effective to run a bunch of working Panthers (an oxymoron if I've ever heard one) around behind enemy lines to stir ~confusion~ amongst the Allies by staging harassment attacks when they would've been more effective just serving normal duty on the front. That's against the ~rules of war~ that no one ever follows (since they all think they're going to win), hence why it's called a Warcrime Panther.

Thanks everyone, I knew the background of the Panther/M10 just didn't connect the clever and amusing nickname.

Is the Churchill GC worth bothering with? I am trying to eventually do all [or maybe almost all] the tank lines as a long term goal but that one is a lot of xp for a pointless diversion that seems to be a disliked tank.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2014 05:04

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Hellsau posted:

It would be a pretty decent tier 5, though one with a lot of glaring weaknesses.

e: the Valentine AT is fine with the derp, the Alecto is extremely good with the derp, and the AT-2 is extremely good without the derp (please do not use the derp on the AT-2).

Here's how the AT-8 compares with the ChurchillGC: when the line was released, there was an event. The top 100 players who got the most base XP in a single battle would receive gold, with the top 3 getting fancy tanks. The highest, the absolutely highest xp game EVER for the Churchill GC during that event, would not have been enough to receive gold in the AT-8.

Thanks, I am up to the AT-8, I enjoyed the line so far except I never clicked with the Alecto.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2014 19:35

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rossmum posted:

Optics are compulsory, and consider swapping the vents with something more useful. I think I have a GLD in mine since its vert stab got taken away.

I thought vents were supposed to be really good too.

Is the Chaffee still a money pit? I loved it but I seemed to rarely make a profit for some reason. This was a few patches ago though.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2014 12:13

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New kill record, maybe I am not terrible. Or I still am.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2015 05:07

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Darkrenown posted:

Just playing more helps, both fighting them and going up new lines to play them - you end up with a pool of tanks data sloshing behind your eyes at all times. Although admittedly just a few days days ago I raced into a close encounter with a WZ-121 in a T9 med because I was thinking "Oh, a T-21, that's a easy kill"

Soooo many VK's, WZ's, Obj's, and FV's, but I am fine with the rest at least.

Descar posted:

This is why going up to T10 ASAP is a bad idea

Some lower tier tanks are also, you know, fun to play. I had a 7 kill T40 game last week. The Tier 3 Brit cruisers are great. Also, MS-1 4 lyfe.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2015 14:38

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Magres posted:

Any advice for the M103? I loving hate this thing so, so much. I get nonstop IS7/E100 lineups in Tier 10 games and have feel like I have almost no ability to hurt them unless they flash me their rear end.

I just got mine, have the 2nd gun and upgraded turret. I like it, but with that 1st gun it is terrible [T29 legacy gun in tier 9 lol], x5 and a little free xp got me past it quick. It is mobile with a good gun and good gun depression. Turret armor seems a step back from the T29 and T32 [especially with that huge cupola/optics thing sticking up so high]. I try to be more support-ish with it.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2015 12:50

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Animal posted:

This is how you take hill in Prokhorovka. Almost single handledly. 6,357 damage done, 4,546 spotting damage. 1,792 base xp.. 16,360 WN8

M46 Patton = Best Tier IX

It isn't even a thrilling replay. Stars aligned and pubbies just let me farm damage

I like my m46 a ton too. Is the m48 a step back? That's what I have heard.

Also, I feel like they shouldn't let you buy a tier 8 premium until you have earned a tank in that tier or at least somewhere close, so you don't have retarded super rookie Lowe's or T34's blowing matches.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2015 05:33

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Ensign Expendable posted:

The design dates all the way back to the Flak 18. There weren't too many tanks running around back then. Until the Matilda II hit the battlefield, there was no need for such a big AT gun, and small mobile 37 mm guns were enough to knock out anything.

My understanding from the MilHist thread is that literally the only good idea Hitler had in WWII was to point 88's at tanks.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2015 01:44

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McGavin posted:

My first battle in the Pz. II D with a 50% crew.

Ace Tanker, 10k WN8.

Lol so much gold spamming, those poor clubbed baby seals.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 01:12

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McGavin posted:

What else are you supposed to do when you see a T18 in a Pz II D?

Oh, sorry, I just saw the money spent on ammo and assumed you shot 100% gold in a tier 2.

My favorite troll is "Hey red team, OBAMA, amirite?"

# ¿ Jan 11, 2015 05:06

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Valle posted:

I know relative tier matters, but we're talking tier 10 tanks here so it's not like they can shoot higher tier tanks for bonus exp, and shooting down seems to have less of an effect. I mean, adding up damage and spotting damage the BatChat literally did more than 4 times the damage the E4 did. Then of course there's the whole shooting stuff you're not spotting yourself, but they both got spotting damage so...yeah. I dunno.

You know, I had a Cromwell win with a good amount of xp but I only penned like two shots and did a moderate amount of spotting, but what I DID do was use my agility to bait the higher tier tanks in missing me about a dozen times while my team took them out. Doe WoT reward you for red missing your tank somehow?

# ¿ Jan 12, 2015 21:29

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Zanziabar posted:

But...but..my marder 38t is amazing. I burned through like 7 TD missions today (after the sun, moon and several previously undiscovered constellations aligned) with it.

T40 4 lyfe

# ¿ Jan 17, 2015 14:09

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Cippalippus posted:

2 games with the STA-1 and already ace. I think we're going to get along just fine

I take it you free xp'd past the stock gun.

Stevefin posted:

They maybe still trying to juggle these sub classes of ships around. It will be interesting to see what they do with Germany, Since after the early years of WWII, its navy just seemed to be swimming with U boats...which wont be in the game, and that they never had an aircraft carrier presence

The Gerry's has a partially built carrier.

So, that money I spent on the 1 WZ111 token expecting it to turn into 2500 gold... Am I out 10$?

# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 01:30

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Zettace posted:

What is with shots going through ships but not doing any damage?

I haven't played botes yet but I know in actual battles if an AP round is fired at a soft target it can pass through both sides of the hull without detonating. At the Battle of Samar, Japanese Battleships and Cruisers thoughy they were fighting American Cruisers and Fleet Carriers so they fired AP early in the battle; but since the Americans were actually in Destroyers and Escort Carriers the rounds would just pokes small holes in the ships [although I think one US ship took one in the engine which was dense enough to set off the shell].

Also, everyone should read about the Battle of Samar.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2015 07:38

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Foxtrot_13 posted:

Is it the same as when you say Rommel was a war criminal?

I thought he was one of the least warcrimey German generals. And he didn't rat out the conspiracy to assassinate dur fuhrer. Or is this just to troll wehraboos? That would be okay.

Nordick posted:

World of Warships: Where the wehraboos are actually just weeaboos. The circle is closed.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2015 06:56

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Hellsau posted:

I've had a lot of people pine in open chat for the Bismark and some other german boat that started with a V or a Y or something like that.

I feel like most of the German capital ships spent the war hiding in Norwegian fjords.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2015 06:58

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NTRabbit posted:

It is, you're right. Could roleplay Blucher, sunk in a fjord by a torpedo and an officer both made for service in WW1

Is this the only time in WWII where a shore battery did anything of note? [I assume because most ships stayed away from them]

# ¿ Jan 26, 2015 21:44

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Hellsau posted:

A Boss Mode on old El Halluf, with the valley flooded and people on both spawns needing to kill some giant warship in the middle would be fun.

Or everyone vs. the Ratte.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

# ¿ Jan 28, 2015 09:32

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So I am in Karelia south spawn in my 110, and EVERYONE, EVERY SINGLE TANK goes southwest. I spawned closest and am the furthest from the other flank. I ping the COMPLETELY empty flank for like 6 seconds so this IS 6 yells at me to go there myself even though I am the furthest tank from that side and also a heavy who will both take forever to get there and belongs right where I am. I point this out and the IS 6 just bitches and moans at me for not going myself as if I didn't explain why. They take a total of 2 shots for no damage and I wind up with 2nd most XP. FFS

# ¿ Feb 7, 2015 04:34

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Uranium 235 posted:

I'm grinding the M44 and I might just give up. The Soviet line all the way through the Obj 261 was so much more fun. Then again, I played through the Soviets before the arty nerfs that came out a while back... version 7.x or something? I don't remember, but I remember shell travel speed was slowed down significantly.

I can't hit poo poo with the M44 and even when I do, the damage isn't that great. Maybe 250 average on a heavy. The leFH is waaaaay better.

FWIW I am on the M40/43 and I would say that the M44 was the worst American arty so far for me.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2015 09:53

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McGavin posted:

One round I took my T95 valley on Lakeville, but only after telling the rest of my team to get their asses to the city and then making sure they actually listened. I killed 5 of 7 enemy tanks in the valley and then got flanked because 14 of my teammates couldn't kill 8 of theirs. I guess the moral of this story is this: gently caress pubs forever.

I like the t95. Once pubbies saved me when I had a medium or a heavy of the same tier driving circles around me after I murdered his buddies on that flank. I was able to back up and pin him against a rock or a building while attentive teammates came to help while he bounced rounds off my slanty roof.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2015 09:53

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Atomizer posted:

The Birch Gun is similar to the SU-26 in that they both have turrets but are tragically made useless by undersized guns.

I enjoy the rapid fire of the Birch tho.

RanKizama posted:

The M3 Lee is a solid Tier IV tank but suffers from a high learning curve that newer players have trouble adjusting to early on in the game. Hence its terrible reputation. New low-tier players see "Medium Tank" and expect to have a Tier IV Sherman. The M3 Lee is very unforgiving for improper deployment but rewarding when played conservatively. Most experienced players tend to look at the Lee with a higher regard once they've learned the mechanics of the game and come back to it to grind the M4 Sherman or T1 Heavy.

Also my favorite historical tank.

I didn't keep mine but it made think of the cool little old war movie "Sahara' with Humphrey Bogart. Not exactly a tank movie per se, but Bogart's Lee picks up some stragglers during a retreat from a German North African attack and they get cut off from everyone. They dash for a oasis and try to tie up a German company with their parked Lee and a handful of infantry.

Content: the S35 is cool and I think I like it.

# ¿ May 1, 2015 06:13

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NTRabbit posted:

The AT-2 and AT-7 are great, the AT-8 and AT-15 are bad, and the Tortoise would be good in a world where gold rounds for credits wasn't a thing, and they hadn't designed tier 10 TDs to be able to two shot anything.

I didn't realize the AT-8 was considered weak, I have a 63% winrate in it somehow.

# ¿ May 2, 2015 08:52

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RanKizama posted:

It's nice to see these special vehicles in game, but where the hell is my special edition Lulubelle?

As much as I love that movie there is not much of a market for a premium Lee.

# ¿ May 8, 2015 11:08

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Uranium 235 posted:

Speaking of British heavies...

A long time ago I started grinding up the heavy line. I stopped after tier 5, because I heard how bad the Churchill VII is. Well, I had 7+ million credits, several free slots, and there's the heavy tank sale right now, so I finally bought it. It is a lot worse than I imagined.

I looked ahead and nothing about this line looks fun until the tier IX gets the L1A1.

The Church VII is a let down from the tier 5 but somehow I [a 51% coinflipper] managed 53% winrate. Tier 8 games are pure suffering though. Black Prince is fun, it's what I am on now.

# ¿ May 18, 2015 05:37

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Blindeye posted:

In other news, got the T67 and am grinding the last bits of upgrades for it. First impressions without the best gun: this thing is a great moneymaker. I'm keeping it probably.

On another note, the M4...which line is more rewarding, the M4A3E8 (I assume this is the Easy 8) or the M4A3E2? I'm probably getting the Easy 8 since I have a T1 (and am making steady, reliable progress towards my M6).

The t67 is glorious, I wonder what the Hellcat will feel like right after it for you since it has been nerfed... When I grinded it the Hellcat was nasty.
People seem to like both the Easy 8 and the Jumbo. I never really clicked with the Jumbo, but I loved the Easy 8.

Zephyrine posted:

Oh. Shows what I know

Besides the Wiki site for WoT, there is info ingame in the tech tree, a quick blurb under characteristics

Content: How can I hate playing the Crusader SP so much but have a decent 53% win rate?

# ¿ May 24, 2015 08:51

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Gapey Joe Stalin posted:

Good post. The cowardly french myth is ridiculous, and as much a red flag to ignorance as believing that black people are inherently lazy. There are any number of reasons for the French collapse, and while the general populace (perfectly understandably in 1939) didn't have much stomach for a repetition of what they endured to hold the line in WWI, the courage of the French soldiers isn't one of them.

It's difficult to comprehend for most people in the west now, especially Americans who have never been seriously threatened with invasion, let alone fought a war of national defence, but France went through some truly apocalyptic poo poo to survive let alone win WWI, and I don't particularly blame anyone who, having lived through it, wanted to surrender in preference to living it again.

Good stuff, I didn't realize/remember that the French infrantry had issues supporting their tanks. You all should read "To Lose a Battle", it is a very comprehensive book on the Battle of France and reading about the French government and generals is pure :smith:

# ¿ Jun 11, 2015 09:11

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Just got back into this game after a few years, trying not spend a bunch of money on gold with limited success. A few of my friends have started so we actually have a viable clan in the works, I'm sadly the second most experienced so I don't expect greatness.
Enjoying lowering my coinflipper solid win rate as I grope for the new metas. Speaking of which, is there a good currently updated tank guide/wiki? The Wargaming wiki seems out of date.

Sair posted:

The FV304 is hilarious to play when you're getting annoyed with the game. Go into the heavy line, park behind a rock, make someone hate you.

I am sad at how nerfed the range is, but maybe it was broken before

# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 21:30

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McGavin posted:

The 304 has always had a 500 m range.

I could of sworn it was little better but I guess it's rose colored glasses.

Also, lol I am glad I am not the only one who noticed Trump's gross neck slit.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2024 22:55

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:41

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Large Testicles posted:

i've been suffering through the american arty line recently and i really miss my old soviet laser cannons in comparison, i'll rebuy the t10 at some point (because I am an idiot)

e: or maybe the school bus, that was always fun

aka the Bang Bus

# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 23:23

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