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Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Trip report: KAF still sucks.

SumYungGui posted:

You are punished for competence.

THIS. Yeah, let's run this guy into the loving ground because he's dependable. This happens all too frequently to junior officers.

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Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Nimmy posted:

Enjoy all the formations marching around?

There's actually none of this and we don't have to wear PT belts. Hell the buddy system is barely enforced too. Once the mission changed to Resolute Support all the gayness pretty much stopped, we don't even send half the reports we used to when we first got here.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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And that's why I don't ever want to fly a 47

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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brains posted:

don't branch aviation if you want to be a pilot. just go warrant. seriously.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Yup it's all over the place, Fort Rucker is home of the USAACE - US Army Aviation Center of Excellence.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Now that I think of it, I don't think we were ever issued rifles in AVBOLC ... our 'FTX' was a week of convoys where we got to go home every day. The rest of the course was just as worthless and they made sure we knew how to write a letter of introduction and use FM 25-50, never mind how to fill out a shortage annex or how the gently caress change of command inventories should work.

Triggs fucked around with this message at 22:07 on May 14, 2015

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Everyone knows airborne is the heart of the Army's darkness. When I found out that Bragg has the highest concentration of West Point graduates everything made sense.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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psydude posted:

I think the whole warrior thing is kind of loving stupid because it makes POGs feel pressured to be super hooah killers even though they army doesn't need them to kill bodies, it needs them to be good at doing whatever their job is. But instead they have "WARRIOR CULINARY SPECIALISTS" and "WARRIOR JOINT NODE NETWORK OPERATOR" shoved down their throats despite the fact that "warrior" is literally the least important part of that title.

If the Army made its non-combat personnel focus more on emulating their civilian counterparts it would be an overall much better organization.

McChrystal was just interviewed and echoed something similar, pretty interesting read and some good suggestions:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-leadership/wp/2015/05/15/gen-stanley-mcchrystal-on-shaking-up-the-military/

And if you're feeling really depressed about the current state of things, The Tragedy of the American Military is a great read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/12/the-tragedy-of-the-american-military/383516/

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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How'd you get your foot in the door for that? I'm at a point in my career that I'm thinking of getting out and falling back on my IT degree. I don't have any certifications right now and that's really the only thing holding me back.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Aranan posted:

But guys, you get free Healthcare while you're in!!

Not that you're allowed to use it, but I hear it's great...

US taxpayers covered my $100,000+ medical bills last year, and that was for a small bowel obstruction. I can't even imagine the healthcare costs for amputees and worse cases.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Everybody still in is too busy getting drunk

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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psydude posted:

Depends. Are you trying to make a career out of the military, or are you actually interested in doing a good job?

This is the most depressing thing I've read all day

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Has anybody been to JRTC recently? I got tagged to be an OC/T and I'm fully expecting it to suck.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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That's all BOLC is and it doesn't get better when you're a new LT.

gently caress who am I kidding it doesn't get much better even as a captain.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Just found out I'm not going to JRTC anymore :woop:

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Because if your chain of command hates you enough they can kick you out for it if they really want.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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BaconAndBullets posted:

The 82nd did the sketchiest poo poo for a while where you had to take APFTs for schools at battalion and brigade level and if it was drill, recruiter, or AIT platoon sergeant it was division. Well you had to constantly move up the chain which usually meant people doing APFTs every week for a month. You can only do one record APFT for a 30 day period so what did they do, you pass it was a diagnostic until the last one which was for record and would be used for the school packet, but if you failed at any level it was automatically for record. Oh and after a while they made it that people going to those three schools had to take the division level APFT every month from when they got their orders to their report date.

It's still like this

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Shooting a round from an Abrams was one of the better experiences I had as a cadet. Is the Stryker MGS still a thing or are those pretty rare to see rolling around nowadays? I saw one at Knox years ago and haven't seen one since.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Just abandon all hope entirely.

The motto of every HHC ever

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Anyone with half a brain knows you just throw that poo poo out the window on your way back from the range ... oh wait

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Mustang posted:

What the hell do you have to do to not get picked up for 1LT?

GOMORs and subsequent Article 15s for alcohol incidents and drug offenses, really. Even then, if they get picked up they'll be first on the chopping block for O-3. I have a peer who had UCMJ against him for some shenanigans involving his wife and he had to delay pinning O-3 for at least 6 months.

Mustang posted:

Since the Army Marksmanship Unit is here at Benning there's been a push for LT's to go through some extra training thing they put on but I haven't had a chance to go yet. The guys that have been say it's great training, I just hope I can get to do it before I PCS.

Apparently dudes that were shooting marksman were shooting expert by the time they were done, plus they do a bunch of extra stuff that I can't remember off the top of my head. Supposed to be a really laid back course too.

Most likely its just common sense shooting in the sense that they show everyone that the Army's methods of shooting aren't necessarily correct (i.e. putting your nose on the charging handle every time to acquire a consistent sight picture). It's a technique and an Army 'standard' but by no means does it work for everyone.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Most pilots give crewchiefs a lot of respect because they couldn't fly without them. Crewchiefs do all of the maintenance on the aircraft in addition to keeping the aircraft clear of obstacles in situations where the pilots can't clear the aircraft themselves (which is a lot of the time). Crew coordination is really stressed in aviation because there's no loving around when you're doing dust landings in zero illum, etc.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Glide path is originally an aviation term

My immediate boss quotes directly from ADRP 3-0 and loves the term 'shared understanding', its the most infuriating thing ever

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Please explain how you lose a m203

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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psydude posted:

Looks like I've had a bulged disk in my lower back for almost 2 years now. Orthopedist said absolutely no Army situps and put me on a no-situp profile. Unit's gonna be so pissed that I can't take a PT test this month, but lol if I'm letting the Army gently caress up my back even more.

I really hope this doesn't result in some sort of med board, because I'm trying to transfer to the IRR.

If you really want to stay in the doc will work with you, just hope they don't throw you into a transition battalion if that's even an option for you

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Airborne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-YsSL65quM

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Booblord Zagats posted:

Anyone remember Ranger Pudding Man?

:nws: Serious it's bad :nms:

That doesn't surprise me

Story?

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Countdown until my boss transfers to a BCT and can't say "shared understanding" anymore

My new boss seems like he grew up at an SEC college so I feel better

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Mustang posted:

So, what's life like as a staff officer? Pretty sure I'll be in one of the S shops once I finish in processing at my unit with a good 3 or 4 months before I get a platoon.

- Fridge bitch
- OPORD/taskings bitch
- BN CDR's special events/projects bitch

That's about it. You're too new to the BN to really know how to run anything so they'll probably stick you with writing OPORDs. Don't get your hopes up that you'll go straight to a platoon, its not unusual for guys to sit on staff for a year (at least in aviation).

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Mustang posted:

Fortunately traffics been pretty good to me both on the way and leaving JBLM, 30 minutes tops to get to north Tacoma during rush hour.


In my squadron I think it's about 6 months or so. My sponsor got his platoon about a month before he got 1LT, I should be getting O2 around December this year. However at least one of the battalions in my brigade must be short for LT's because I had an infantry company commander try to steal me.

The PL pipeline in infantry is probably quicker than in aviation because aviation hinges on RL progression so you're probably safe. Even then, all roads lead to S3.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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I'm still in as well, hating life as the A/S3. I'm convinced that everything bad about the army stems from field grade officers.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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I saw that at Bragg's soldier processing center as I was scheduling my PCS move today- just tons of people looking pissed off and announcements every 5 minutes that DEERS was being slow.

Of course I had my own frustrations just dealing with the piece of poo poo systems that DPS and move.mil are. Don't remember your username? Of course the transportation office doesn't have CAC enabled computers and doesn't allow Enterprise access so I had to go to the USO of all places, log in there, and then go back again.

Oh and if you didn't bring your firearms' serial numbers you just submit the paperwork sans firearms and have to come back with another piece of paper. That poo poo is finalized between me and the carrier anyway so what does it matter?

On the plus side my BN is on block leave and my boss knows he can't touch me since I'm outprocessing.

TL;DR Dumb Army things happened to me too

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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That's why you get there at least twenty minutes before opening for any office in there. Good luck finding parking too.

As a side note, I've been at Bragg for 4 years and just realized there's a USO in the soldier center. Its great if you want to grab some coffee or snacks before dealing with the bullshit.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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I realized this week that my SAPI plates aren't even on my clothing record.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Does anybody else's company orderly room do dumb poo poo like ask for a copy of your license, registration, and insurance?

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Can confirm, PRK is the poo poo. Do it. I fly helicopters now because I got it.

And take pain meds before you go to sleep because you WILL wake up in the middle of the night feeling like your eyes are on fire otherwise.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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He's not in S3 yet, it'll come.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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Because back then they didn't have the means of tracking every tasking down to each minute detail, and commanders were actually allowed to command without BDE and higher digging into petty statistics in DTMS.

I remember hearing from a former BDE commander that a company commander has to access over 19 different systems nowdays to do his job- its insane.

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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There's a new article making rounds on Facebook on how the Army is broken right now:

http://warontherocks.com/2016/09/si...arly+Bird+Brief

Old news but well written.

TLDR: Risk aversion, micromanagement, bureaucracy, listen to juniors, send people to school, strengthen ethics.

I don't know how it is for the other branches but in aviation we've become so risk averse that its seriously affecting new generations of junior officer's flying careers.

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Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

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J.A.B.C. posted:

You'll get over it once you get a dog and peep a butt.

At this rate I'm going to be the last active guy in the thread. Seven more years!
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4 more here :(

I'll probably stay Reserves for the benefits, though.

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