Mendrian posted:

Promethean is a game you can win, yes, but (IMHO) it had poorly implemented group mechanics out of the box and was best played as some kind of solo adventure game. Also it told you roughly what a milestone was but not fantastic advice on how to achieve them (as a player) or how to conceive them (as an ST).

tatankatonk posted:

Promethean's commercial viability is extremely suspect but it's still a good, well-designed game that's distinct thematically and mechanically from the other lines. If you're looking for the real aimless game comparison, there's always Geist.

Crion posted:

Yeah, they're not bad, they're just kinda redundant. It's not impossible to imagine a world where TF:V, Barrett Commission, VASCU and Division Six all exist, but it is tough to imagine them all being distinct, independent of, and presumably secret from each other. Retreading ground like that crowds out the potential for good new ideas. But then, when given that opportunity we got the Buffy compact and the Bioshock conspiracy, so.

spectralent posted:

So Beast's pretty poo poo. The thing I find most worrying is how strongly a lot of people seem to have identified with the Ghost of Christmas Child Abuse.

Obligatum VII posted:

*snip*

paradoxGentleman posted:

...uh.
What exactly does "buying White Wolf" entails, if most of WW's stuff is in OP's hands now?

JohnnyCanuck posted:

Mage, Promethean, or Hunter, you could build a whole campaign around this MacGuffin: Red Mercury

Kurieg posted:

Skemp did away with as much of that as he was allowed once revised kicked in.

Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:

the Catholic Church of Rome acknowledges and gives worship time to other gods

Ironslave posted:

Beast's original idea was the cycle of abuse. You can see shades of it in the game as it is now and the original preview doc. Beasts are abusive monsters whose actions produce heroes who are themselves unstable people who seek to repay that misery. In the original doc, where you were always a Beast, it's suggested this state likely provoked a lot of negativity and harshness for a Beast growing up. The way Heroes were supposed to be low-Integrity is another sign, implying their own natures as a result of things.

PantsOptional posted:

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The Baal-Hadad — sometimes just called bullmen, other times allowing the vulgar minotaur to be used if sparingly — place themselves as the gods of various towns and villages that sit at the margins of any map. The world is a bad place, a dangerous cesspool with inequity at every turn. God, if such a character ever existed, has long left this world to its own devices, and that is simply unacceptable. The Baal-Hadad have chosen to take God’s place over the people, giving the herd fences from which they may not stray, and providing protection from the injustices of a rotten world. They watch over these small towns and hamlets, accepting sacrifices and worship from the people. They don’t bother with cities or suburbs that lie connected to the rest of society — such places are already lost to the sweeping cancer, and deserve nothing more than excision.

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The townsfolk are expected to sacrifice to the bull-gods. Regular sacrifices, which happen monthly, are lesser: a burning pyre of wheat, a sack of recently beheaded chickens, a poem written in their honor. Those that happen yearly — or once every 10 years — are more extreme. Some farmers offer virginal daughters, others offer pints of their own blood or bottles of their tears. Every town member is expected to commit his own sacrifice at the proper times (usually on holidays such as harvests, solstices, equinoxes — and always under the noon-day sun). Even children are asked to give something to the minotaurs (though never large or dangerous sacrifices — those come later). Failing to sacrifice, or failing to appease with one’s sacrifice, is tantamount to a crime.