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Fast Luck posted:Garth, you just got called out by name. Is the accusation accurate? If not, what's the truth? If so, any idea how Narc could know about it? Absolutely. Clearly I placed my trust in the wrong person. Hope your idol's real!
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Chic Trombone posted:I'd like to add that, despite being part of an alliance with Garth, I was deliberately left out of the scheme due to my friendship with MMM and from what I've heard they planned to spring it on me last minute and hope i go along with it Sorry. I was trying to leave you in the dark until the last minute. Figuring you would go along with the plan no matter what.
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May 26, 2015 01:31
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Before things get too sour, I wanted to say that I actually really enjoy playing with everybody here. I'm having a good time and I really like everybody in this tribe. This isn't a bad thing Me too. I just thought I had an opportunity to eliminate a threat. No hard feelings.
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May 26, 2015 01:32
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I Chic Trombone posted:did you just think you couldn't trust me? Serious question. Do you not trust me? Have I done something to make you not trust me? Because I think I've been pretty solid all game w/r/t trustability and I am honestly kind of hurt right now I thought I could trust you so much you would go along with my plan without any other information. I didn't want to propose it to you until I was pretty sure we had it solid. I needed to talk to the people I wasn't sure of.
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May 26, 2015 01:37
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Fast Luck posted:Anyone want to fill me in on what the heck has been going on tonight? I just got home from a Memorial Day vacation, honestly just dropped my grandmother off at her place 2 hours ago. I can answer some of this. It was my plan to target MMM and I left my allies in the dark about it. Unfortunately, it blew up in my face before I told them my plan.
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May 26, 2015 01:40
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:It really sucks when you trust someone and it turns out they are doing stuff behind your back. Sorry, I was convinced you were in an opposing alliance. I feel bad that I broke actual trust.
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May 26, 2015 01:44
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Are you sure this is directed at me? We were never allied and I've never trusted you. Oh good. I just thought I was the only one when nefarious plan this time.
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May 26, 2015 01:50
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Garth you're saying dogg pickle never knew about this? She certainly wasn't a ringleader in it. I don't remember if I had told her before it blew up or not.
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May 26, 2015 01:52
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Chic Trombone posted:If you really didn't know about Garth's plan either then I'm sorry for accusing you or whatever? All i know is right now I'm really frustrated and just want this tribal over Sorry chic. 
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May 26, 2015 01:52
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Fast Luck posted:
I think we have moved on to the threat stage of the game. I want to make moves that most help my alliance. I think there is still a little flux between the sides. I made a mistake in not telling some people things last time, so now I have to rebuild those trust bonds and I don't know if I had enough time yet. I don't regret burning an idol. I might have ended up going home without it.
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May 28, 2015 01:36
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Fast Luck posted:Question for Original Swole Not really, considering I was gunning for MMM last time and I think he's gunning for me. There's at least that fracture. Plus I abused the trust of Chic and Dogg, and I don't know if they have forgiven me.
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May 28, 2015 01:44
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Fast Luck posted:Okay, everyone can vote except Jato and Strong Mouse, looking for a response from them. No
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May 28, 2015 01:58
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Bye Strong Mouse! Sorry it had to be you.
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May 28, 2015 02:26
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:A friendly reminder for everybody to check their PMs I don't have a new PM.
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Jun 2, 2015 01:31
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Fast Luck posted:
I think it may very well be.
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Jun 2, 2015 01:39
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:I had went on record in one forum or another comparing our situation to the Three Kingdoms of Wei, Wu, and Shu by the virtue of numbers. I had initially believed that the swole group with Rurea, Chic, garth, and Dogg Pickle were going to be Wei and be able to wait out the other groups as they discerned who would be Wu and who would be Shu. Things got blurry as plan went off the rails and the Sexy remnants established themselves as Shu after Rurea's ousting while the Swole groups were fighting to determine who was Wei. As the days grew onward I realized how out of place the analogy of the Three Kingdoms was and had to see the lay of things in a new way. At this point we are either in the Warring States of China, or Japan, as lines have been built and fortune and misfortune had met people, and now all can see the chaos that has come to exist. It is however still tempting to see someone or something solid and established as the strongest in this game, but I do not know if someone will have the strength to take the game as it is now laid out before their eyes. You're my favorite.
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Jun 2, 2015 01:50
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:A question that should be asked is who thinks they're Hideyoshi, and who thinks they're Tokugawa. I don't think I could answer that question. All my knowledge of Chinese and Japanese history comes from Warriors games and I'm much more comfortable with Three Kingdoms.
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Jun 2, 2015 01:54
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Bye Jato! I hope you liked the pony.
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Jun 2, 2015 02:16
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Yeah, I think I'm down to one I don't know.
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Jun 3, 2015 02:58
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Congratulations MMM!
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Jun 3, 2015 03:25
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Jun 4, 2015 01:37
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Fast Luck posted:Chic, Dogg, Garth I'm absolutely worried that it could devolve into a 3-3 tie. I would hope that people feel that the rock draw has a lower probability of success than a crucial immunity win or changing someone's mind.
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Jun 4, 2015 01:44
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Jun 4, 2015 01:56
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Fast Luck posted:For everyone, especially imgay: Those are certainly the possibilities. I hope I have built a strong enough relationship with Imgay so he will decide to vote with us.
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Jun 4, 2015 01:57
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:I'm sorry for failing you, and I wish you had told me that all the drama had been fake afterwards. I felt horrid with what spilled out. I apologize for not trusting you enough to clue you in. You have been a better ally to me than I have to you. 😔
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Jun 4, 2015 02:00
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Well done you guys! Good luck!
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Jun 4, 2015 02:15
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Congratulations you guys! Good luck to you all! Doggpickle Do you feel that your promise to me was made in good faith? If so, why did you break it? If not, why does it matter that you stuck to the wording of the promise? MMM Whatchya Say What is your proudest moment in the game? AnAnonymousIdiot In the spirit of your previous tribal councils, what figure would you compare each of the final 3 to?
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Jun 19, 2015 02:33
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Congrats MMM!
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Jun 19, 2015 03:40
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Eight Dollars posted:Congrats MMM! I wanted to get him out as quick as possible, but my first plan was ratted out and then he won immunity until I was voted out. I was sure he had the jury in the bag.
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Jun 19, 2015 03:47
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I'll explain my vote to you Dogg. My primary reason for not voting for you was that you orchestrated a final 3 in which you could not win. I'm almost positive MMM beats anyone from final 6 at Final 3. At the very least he has Jato, Narc, and Strongmouse. That means he needs 1 more vote or splitting the other votes to win. (Narc votes for him over you because you wrote her name down.) Either he played you in convincing you to bring him or you misplayed in bringing him yourself. Second, I know you disagree, but I felt you broke your promise to me. My understanding of the promise is we were allies. You voted to get me out. That breaks the promise to me. I know that explicitly the agreement was about writing names, but I have no clue who would respect that kind of semantic bullshit. If you had gotten rid of MMM, I would have voted for you (even while holding my nose), but I voted for the stronger player.
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Jun 19, 2015 05:40
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DoggPickle posted:That actually makes me disappointed in the other players. If people just assumed things that I never said, how am I responsible for that? We still cool? Yeah, I'm not mad at you anymore. The only reason I would have been holding my nose is I would have respected you betraying me if you went full force and not tried to have it both ways.
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Jun 19, 2015 06:34
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DoggPickle posted:To reiterate, they weren't allies. The part you don't seem to be realizing is that Chic and I thought you were an ally. You can talk all you want about how you never promised that, but you certainly let us make that assumption. Also, you can claim all you want about the power of your game, but you and possibly AnonIdiot were the only people who didn't realize that MMM wins if he makes it to the jury. Survivor is a social game. Survivor is more than just voting people out. It's voting them out in such a way that they will still vote for you. There's a reason Russell Hantz didn't win either season he made it to the finals.
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AnAnonymousIdiot posted:How does one elevate themselves from being a goat in this game? I've been wondering if I could've done more in the game; going through the trip I did it seemed like peoples' minds were made up through the entire game. Get rid of the bigger threats in a way that makes it look like you were the driving force. Talk about the moves you are making at every tribal council that you can. If you had got rid of MMM it's possible a strong FTC performance would have elevated you. Especially if Imgay tried to get his supporters to vote your way, since he seemed to prefer you winning to him winning.
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I played assuming you continuing with us was in your best interests. I never considered that asking you for a formal alliance would cause you to play against your best interests, so I never thought you wanted or needed it. I figured everyone knew MMM would win in a jury vote. I can't say getting rid of me was a wrong play for you, I just think you're argument would have been stronger if you voted against me than trying to keep your word. If you thought people would value game over emotions why does it matter that you kept your word? Ultimately, your argument appeals to no one. Emotional players still feel like you betrayed them regardless of the fact that you technically kept your word, game-respecting players respect the move regardless of a broken promise so the semantics argument comes off as weak.
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You keep saying you felt you were on the bottom of the 3 (not true because I was more scared of Chic than you in FTC), but how does that really matter when there is a Final 3? Just afraid of the final four outsider winning immunity?
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DoggPickle posted:Hey you're right. I forgot I said that. I never said I should have won lol hahahaha. I'm cool with what happened now. That's bullshit. Narc's name was on the table that vote. I was talking to Idiot and Imgay about who they would rather see voted off between Narc and MMM from before that alliance offer. Narc's name came up because the MMM plan was exposed. It was crystal clear that they were a pair.
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if you'd just asked me first, I would have been like no, no, no, no, don't do that! I know you were well liked, afterwards, and Mmm explained to me later why he wanted to take you to the end, but I just didn't get it within the short time I met you. Sorry you felt so betrayed about that.
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Yeah, I didn't realize that Imgay was playing for AnonIdiot at that point. If I had I would have proposed taking out Imgay.
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JakeP posted:I really want to know, who wins between imgay anonidiot and doggpickle final 3 That's really tough to say. If Imgay plays for himself in FTC, it comes down to Dogg and Imgay. If Imgay tries to rally support for AnonIdiot I think Idiot takes it.
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