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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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My one disappointment with Killing Floor retail was losing the UT2k4 playback system, which just let you make playlists using whatever music you had on your computer. I always wondered why that feature didn't come in, given it was the same engine and all.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Adding to that, I recall mention somewhere (might have been here?) about the game staying in early access for roughly ~6 months, but maybe that was one of the devs comparing it to the development cycle of Red Orchestra.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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khy posted:

So it's always hold out against enemies for 10 waves?

Are there other types of maps? Like, "Go capture this point" or "Go retrieve this data from a PC while the hordes advance" or poo poo like that?

KF1 had an Objective mode where you had to do stuff around the map to advance to the next phase. People have datamined the beta to find other modes and the server interface clearly has room for others, but in the initial release for Early Access we'll only have "Survival mode" as far as we know.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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DeusExMachinima posted:

UNLOCKS IN FIVE HOURS

GET HYPE

I found an old schedule from 2008 while purging old papers from a drawer. I had joted down "Play Killing Floor" three times in it.

It is a sign. I am hype, I am as hype as a man can be.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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year199X posted:

I kind of want to buy a 6 pack, but I also want to get the deluxe edition, and I think steam is wonky in that if I buy the deluxe edition it won't let me buy the 6 pack, even if I choose to buy it as a gift. Is there a way around this?

I've never seen a <number>-pack on Steam allowed as a gift, since the way they work is that you get a copy and then <number-1> copies pop up in your inventory. Sort of blows to be honest.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Accordion Man posted:

Man is just me or are the medic weapons garbage? Like I really don't remember running out of ammo so quickly in 1 and medic was my class.

The Medic guns are all excellent, the SMG is pretty much laser accurate and is perfect to pop heads and both the shotgun and assault rifle have great damage. Most weapons in the game have a lower ammo stock compared to KF1, so short-controlled bursts and all that.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Reason posted:

Are you meant to be disconnected from server any time you lose?

No, you auto-rejoin, but if your load times are slow other people will join before you do, which is a problem in these days of too many players for too few servers.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Epsilon Plus posted:

Fleshpounds feel less threatening but it seems like they take way longer to kill than I remember.

It is the lack of sharpshooters.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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SaffronKit posted:

Figured I'd post here before I went to sleep to see if anyone else had a similar problem: Got the game installed as soon as it dropped, hopped onto a server to play and everything was going fantastic! Had tons of fun, we wiped on the boss every time cause we're a bunch of dumbo level 0 perks still getting used to the game.

The problem started after about the second or third map. Suddenly mid round, I started getting massive audio feedback that would only occur during the round when zeds were still spawning. It kind of sounded like a couple different sirens screaming all just slightly out of time, with various other noises mixed in to create a screeching hellmix of sounds that literally had me taking off my headset. People talking on voice chat in game came through fine, and as soon as the round ended the horrible noise stopped, but it would always come back as soon as the round started unless it was the boss wave.

I had all my video settings set to low, maybe something in there caused it, I'll need to try again tomorrow to see if it crops up once more with the same settings and then mess around to see if different quality settings fix it or not. Can't really understand why video settings would cause that to happen though, very weird.

Yeah, I've been having the same problem, for me it started after one of the beta patches (I want to say 1003, but I can't be sure, as I didn't play much in the later beta period), but was clear before. It is rather grating, I've tried reducing graphical options without success.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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I had a dream where the Matriarch boss was literally Margareth Thatcher in a Mechsuit.

After beating her first phase she ejected and the suit self-destructed in a huge rear end explosion, then the HMS Invincible crashed into the map and she parachuted in. We had to fight SAS to reach her inside, as it turned out the specimens were actually released by her to rid Britain of its immigrants and underclass.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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One major upside for Commando, that people often ignore, is that they get % bonus damage to all weapons, not only to their perk ones, which makes them surprisingly flexible when it comes down to choosing their arsenal or leveling up side perks.

That said, I am still mainly a Medic because it is the best.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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I used to play a Medic all the time, then I decided to play Support for a bit and god, does it feel great to do damage with every weapon.

It is beautiful.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Shine posted:

How does class grinding make Killing Floor a better experience for the players?

Yeah, I perfectly agree as well, but there is a large amount of people who get really invested in watching numbers grow. It is a proven way of holding an user base, as prestige systems in several shooters and MMOs in general have shown, so I am quite confident it will never go away. At least it is a better system than the one in KF1 or Red Orchestra 2, as you can level up rather quickly in comparison to Tripwire's previous games.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Colosmicon posted:

If TWI really wants to flash numbers in the bottom left-hand corner of my screen, they should implement a kill-combo system instead. Combo-based powerups would jive really well with the game's charming, meathead aesthetic, and could reward players for skilled play in a way that the experience point system can't. Granting powerups from kill combos could potentially solve existing gameplay flaws, like the current incentive for players to kite scrakes around the map until all of the trash is done spawning. You're much more likely to take on that scrake if you have a limited time window of increased headshot damage or weapon stability. Adding a combo system also creates more possibilities for perks, and, depending on implementation, it could theoretically replace the experience system altogether, maybe by tying certain class bonuses to "high scores".

I dunno, it's just the start of an idea right now, but there's probably some fun to be had there.

Kill your dick.

Now I want a Bulletstorm 2 with KF2's gore system and I know I ain't getting it.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Honestly, I think the Commando is fine, apart from night vision being friggin' useless in the current maps. It is just that the class' main advantage is flexibility, given how their damage bonus applies to all weapons and a lot of their perk talents affect more than their weapon types, it is just that we don't have that many choices for them to go off-perk with as the case may be./

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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I remember the old days of West London (UT2004 era even) when the go-to plan was to use a bug with the chainlink gate in the back of the police station that pushed you up when it was closing and then just stay up there on the walls slaughtering zeds. There were no husks back then, at most a Siren might scream some health away. Then the mod team changed the gate to instagib any player on its path. Good times.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Section Z posted:


Also, hey Questioner.

This is still on the Steam Store page's EA blurb. You might get a lot less people still asking "Are they wiping stats or not?" despite the E3 announcements if that got removed.

Wait, there was an announcement stating that stats won't be wiped out before and for release? I sort of stopped playing after the first week because of the expectation of getting level-wiped and wishing not to climb the curve multiple times.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Broose posted:

Yes. During E3, Tripwire came on stage, teased us with poo poo that probably won't see the light of day for months and said there would be no wipes.

Holy poo poo, that's huge, should be the top thing on their dev blog and community page, I'd have no idea if I wasn't bored and clicked the thread.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Here is to dreaming that the update after this one is faster, given how SWAT/Gunslinger/Sharpshooter probably don't need too many new mechanics added to make them work in comparison to Firebug and Demo. Ninja will depend on how satisfied TW is with the melee balance in the upcoming patch.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Achievements for the next two maps are up, I guess.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Honestly, that's a nice compromise on the whole "buy DLC weapons" thingie that will inevitably come down the line.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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They will crossover with E.Y.E. and add the motherfucking Bear-Killer Pistol as the Tier 4 gunslinger weapon. If you dual-wield it you fly backwards.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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I believe this is relevant to the present discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxh4Dfgpts

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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So I opened the beta and... Well, I remember it was stated in the update that you'd keep your perk progress through the beta, but it seems my settings have been reset and all my perks are down to 0.

I am hosed, ain't i?

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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RoadCrewWorker posted:

Mine didn't reset as far as i know so i assume you might have a different problem causing that.

edit: they actually had vanished when i started up the game a few times (like it couldn't load my local profile file or something) but they came back after a restart

Yeah, restarting Steam fixed it, must have been some trip up with the cloud connection or whatever.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Shumagorath posted:



If you're going to cheat at least play on HoE?

Someone who cheated levels probably can't cut it in Hell on Earth.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Volt Catfish posted:

Are they still wiping perks? It's the only thing preventing me from buying this probably amazing game.

There will be no more resets, so get to killing.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Honestly, the Grenade Pistol feels way too unreliable in the beta. M72 is cool, RPG is pretty ace, but its weight and specialized use make it more of a choice for fighting Hans. C4's purpose means it is pointless to get it before Fleshpounds show up, so Demo has to either get dual 9mms or an off perk weapon (Medic SMG is cool) to be useful before he can afford to jump to tier 3.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Literally Zeno's Nuclear Detonation.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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closeted republican posted:

Things like Antlion Guard chase in HL2: Episode 2 being changed because of loving retarded testers not understanding the most basic of basics makes a lot more sense when you see free weekenders in games like Killing Floor. It's a miracle they can take a piss and hit the water in a toilet.

My experience with public restrooms tells me they can't do the latter.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Alkydere posted:

Things KF2 needs:
-KF1 Trader as playable character
-Solaire's Armor skin for the LARPer

Commando Chicken.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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I have literally never joined a match in which no one was sharing the Chivalry weapon, so it isn't a real issue unless you are playing solo.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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The Microwave Gun and the Boomstick are both weapons that make me laugh in maniac glee when I start using them, which makes them the best weapons in the game.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Alkydere posted:

At least it's a million times easier to level up in KF2 than KF1. Just "shoot zeds", no having to grind out welding doors, trying to nail stalkers before your team mates saw their shimmer and removed them, or having to get the killing blow on the Patriarch 100x times while you stand on your hands and wield your gun with your feet.

Yes, please kill 3600 stalkers with commando weapons.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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A Zerk that can parry consistently is like a Commando who can put down headshots all the time, the class isn't overpowered, it is just the player who is competent.

I think Demo could use a +reload speed base perk improvement like Firebug has, even though Firebug is the class that has the least use for it when using weapons other than the Trenchgun.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Zomborgon posted:

Speaking of, is there any talk of the Sharpshooter coming back, or is it now just going to be "play a more conservative Commando" now?

Yeah, Sharpshooter has been confirmed as one the planned perks, along with Gunslinger, Martial Artist (the Katana perk) and SWAT.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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KF1 had an objective mode where you had to go around the map doing stuff, escorting VIPs and stuff like that. The KF2 interface does have a game type space for it, with Survival the only option, which suggests others are planned.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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President Ark posted:

RPG missiles just punch holes through things and keep going if they haven't armed yet, so that we can just shoot RPG missiles through clots to hit the FP behind them

This would go a long way towards making the class more viable in tight maps.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Yeah, Gunslinger and Sharpshooter don't exactly add new mechanics compared to the Firebug/Demolitionist needs, they shoot bullets that kill guys, though I imagine it will be a challenge to balance them so they each have an useful role without making other perks useless.

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ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

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Psion posted:

This is definitely true. Game needs more of that. Bonus challenges for players under 25 that provide XP rewards? Get 200 kills with weapon x to unlock fancy cosmetic option y to keep people even at 25 going? I dunno. Something. Maybe after they add another couple perks.

People mining the game data found voice responses to players with prestige (as in resetting their levels for some minor bonus/bragging rights), so the latter is at least on the works.

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