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Weird question, maybe somebody knows the answer to it: are there any quests in Velen you can do that will make other quests unavailable? I'd like to just wander around finding them, but I'm a weirdo completist. It was very easy to do in White Orchard because the only two are basically "Do that quest with the herbalist before you finish the Griffin one" and "One of the Treasure Hunts leads into another one," but there are a million quests in Valen, and I don't want to spoil myself if I can avoid it besides checking on Gwent stuff (which I already did).
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Arcsquad12 posted:You can miss quests, though. I know there are a couple in Novigrad that don't appear again if you avoid them the first time. Whenever you see an exclamation point, take it immediately. I ended up letting a guy near the docks die because I wasn't fast enough to offer him an armed escort. I can't resist running toward a nice, shiny exclamation point, but there are two you can miss in White Orchard - one is by killing the griffin before you find the herbalist, in which case, you can never get her quest. Another is that the Temerian Valuables treasure hunt erases one of the other treasure hunts (because it gives you the same rewards, so the second one becomes unnecessary). I actually don't mind any situation where the latter happens, but the former makes me frown. I guess I'm just going to try not to worry about it too much. I already found one guy by the side of the road being attacked by drowners and untied him, but it didn't seem to be attached to a quest, so that was weird.
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I'm going to stay in Velen until I've found like all the question marks and done all of the quests I can do, unless it seems like I'm getting murderized too hard. I sort of like focusing on one area at a time. I'm sure there will be quests that have to send me back to Velen later, but by then, I hope I know it really intimately and am the do-gooder major of war-ravaged wild dog land. I've been doing the main quest a bit mainly because it's been walking me right through the towns I wanted to walk through anyway to hit a few notice boards. I've also been trying to practice a bit with the crossbow, because I'm finding my usual strategy of "Roll behind people and hit them, parry and riposte if someone is using a shield" is making me soak up some damage when there are a lot of bandits. Plus the only sign I use frequently is Quen and I need some more stuff to put my skill points into 
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Drifter posted:Don't roll, just do the sidestep dodge to get around or avoid people. Rolling is to get away from giant swipey monsters. Thanks, I should sidestep more (although I find the roll helps a little bit if the bandits stand three in a row and you've already taken out their archer).
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Loose Ifer posted:Picked this up on sale over the weekend for PC. Is the map kinda like skyrim where i can just wander around doing whatever for whoever i want and run into a bunch of fun little stories? Sort of. A lot of the basic peasants are just going to say "Hm?" or treat you like a freak. The best thing to do is find a notice board and pick up literally every notice. That will put a bunch of question marks on your map. Then you can explore them to find quests. If you find an exclamation point, that's also a quest, so be sure to head for it. My experience so far is that there isn't a ton off the beaten trail. Because every point of interest is a question mark and you can find most of them through notice boards or conversations with people in the main quest/people you find via notice board, you don't so much walk through town talking to random passers-by looking for work. If you're used to Skyrim, it takes a second to get used to, but once you do, the way the map and quests work is really straightforward and cool. It eliminates the scavenger hunt aspect of things and just lets you travel to hubs of interest.
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Fuzz posted:Velen and Novigrad are one huge continuous area Oh, poo poo, I didn't know this. I'll have to watch where I tread, it's my goal to stay in Velen as much as possible for now.
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I had a weird glitch in the Ciri dream sequence where it showed me the "success" option first and then, immediately afterward, the "failed" option, so that was a thing. I also failed the papers quest because apparently the guy died to the ghouls. Thought I'd saved them all, but I guess not. I'm eating those two failures, though. I also got wrecked continuously by a noonwraith near where you exit with Keira after the lamp quest, so I guess I'll come back to that (I'm only level 7 and the area is definitely way over my head - I only just survived the onslaught of wraiths cum water hag). I'm hoping doing the Keira favor quests and a bit more of the "find the witch" main quest (plus a few of the level 5-10 side quests) will get me to the point where I can comfortably roam around Velen tagging all question marks, doing treasure hunts and side quests, and basically clean everything out before I head north to the cities. Will I know when I'm in Hearts of Stone territory? Going to mostly avoid DLC until I've done as much of the other stuff as I can.
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SirSamVimes posted:If the noonwraith you keep getting owned by is Jenny o' the Woods, don't worry. She murders most people. She might be. I have that quest, so I'll check on it and see if its in the area I was getting Noonwraithed. Either way, coming from the Elder Scrolls, I sort of like that the game is sometimes like "Haha, yeah, okay: gently caress you pal!" for trying to just wander into the war-torn wilderness. I actually like both ways (with enemies that scale and with enemies that don't), but have never really experienced the latter with an open world game, so it's cool. It particularly fits with the Polish "It's cold, all the peasants are miserable, weeping racists who'd just assume literally spit on you as give you the time of day, and your desire to stay out of political affairs sometimes makes you the monster, anyway, have fun" vibe.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:If I'm remembering right there's some elven ruins around that area with a shitload of wraiths and a noonwraith. It probably just wandered over. Yeah, it was this (it didn't wander over, though, I walked toward the shiny question mark). I fought Jenny later, who definitely put up a fight, but not the kind of fight that took me down in two blows. I'm finally at the point where the Witch and Baron quests converge, so probably hitting the end of the Velen chapter. I'm still going to do contracts and secondary quests, and a little bit of exploring until I feel like I'm too low level for stuff, and then I'll head off for Novigrad.
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Was there a patch recently? Maybe that will explain while the audio selectively cut out during the Horrortree mission and didn't get turned on again until I reset the software.
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I'm still really enjoying this. I'm probably about halfway through Novigrad's Chapter 1 story and have done most of the sidequests. I'm almost level 20, at which point I'll probably do some hunts in Velen. Currently garbed up in the basic cat gear. Gwent is really fun and I enjoy dropping spies and decoying the enemy spies left and right. I wish they had spent literally every second they spent making the weird uncanny valley sex scenes on more Gwent. I still have a fuckton of question marks to look after in Velen/Novigrad, which I'll probably try to attempt before jogging off to Skellige and cleaning up there. Will there be a time when the game sends me to Khaer Morhen naturally? Right now I feel like I want to wait until the end of Chapter 1, once I've explored all of Skellige.
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One thing I will happy about when leaving Novigrad is not having to figure out where the staircase is to go up or down toward a quest marker, because it is the thing I am definitely the most laughably incompetent at in this entire game.
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Grem posted:Yea I actually have a controller so the alt stepping isn't very helpful, guess I should have said that! You want the dodge button (circle on PS4, I think), then make sure your signs are on Quen using the L1 trigger and the right stick. Activate Quen using the R2 trigger, then hit your enemy a few times with quick attacks (square). When it looks like they're going to swing, dodge backward. Hit Quen again, run back, and once you have the timing better, mix in some strong attacks with the quick attacks. Quen gives you a pillow to absorb about one hit, usually, so while you're learning the timing of when they attack, it helps. Also: don't worry about running out of oil. The game does tell you, but I missed it: your alchemy ingredients regenerate whenever you meditate. So for some extra bang, just slap on the oil that's good against whatever you're fighting (for drowners, it's necrophage oil, but you look it up in the glossary). Whenever the game requires you to fight people with your fists, do the following: wait for your enemy to get into his swing, then hit hit the L2 trigger to parry and riposte. As your opponent is staggering, hit him two or three times, then dodge backward until you have some distance. Wait for him to move toward you, and repeat. It makes every boxing match so easy, you can beat opponents who are well above your level this way.
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Also, now that I am on Witcher Ireland, AKA Skellige, and have done a few quests, it's definitely the best of the three areas. I'm glad I saved it for last. My least favorite things to fight are Sirens, because they combine the games worst mechanics: swimming, things that fly, and using the crossbow. My favorite things to fight are those tree spirit things that turn into a flock of crows and summon wolves, because it engages with the better, complicated aspects of combat. I also like blowing over their creepy totems. I have also enjoyed using the Jedi mind trick ability at every available opportunity. That it just hands you 40 experience regardless of if it works and has funny consequences when it doesn't is fantastic. I want to be friends with all the trolls, even the ones that I had to beat in a riddle contest.
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Fuzz posted:Trolls are the one thing I didn't mind them reusing so often in this. Godlings and Katakans, on the other hand... I really like godlings 
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Edmond Dantes posted:Huh. Did I miss something? I just finished the Family Matters quest; I freed the spirit at the Whispering Hillock because it promised to help the children (which I never knew were in danger? the conversation just popped up when talking to it after the crones sent me to kill it), it went and made everyone in the village murder each other. Alright, fine. I went to the Bog with the Baron, fought a Fiend, picked the correct doll, lifted the curse on Anna (who died) and went back to Crow's Perch to find the Baron had hung himself. And then I got a small cutscene saying the kids were safe? When the hell did that happen? Does it just happen offscreen and it's never mentioned again, or did I somehow skip a part of the quest? You didn't skip a part of the quest. You can find the children later, although you may not run into them. I forget which quest, but I believe it's somewhere in Novigrad. Apparently if you choose not to release the tree horror, it's heavily implied that the crones eat the children, although the Baron's family fares better.
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I have a bunch of hugely specific and probably annoying Skellige questions: 1) How do I get to the two points of interest between Rogne and the Ancient Crypt? I can't seem to figure out how the hell to get around the mountains from anywhere to get to them. 2) What the heck is up with the Ancient Crypt anyway? It doesn't seem to open. 3) Is the Ruined Inn glitched? I can't seem to clear the Abandoned Site there. 4) There's a little trail of islands in the Southeast corner of Ard Skellige - one of the first ones there has a Hidden Treasure that I simply cannot find, no matter how hard I look. Where is the drat thing?
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Dr Cheeto posted:You explore that crypt as part of the main story quest The Sunstone. Both points of interest are within the crypt. Even if you miss them during the story quest the area remains open. Thanks. I found the answer to my last question, too - it was just very obscured by some bushes.
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Well, 55 points of interest left to find in Skellige and I'm finding every last one, even if they're almost certainly mostly Smuggler's Caches and siren fights. Then I just have a few contracts and treasure hunts I've been saving because of my level, and then it's off to start Act II properly.
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Well, I did it. I found every loving point of interest that was on my map, save for one in Velen that seems unreachable as yet, the northern group in Novigrad that I think are a part of the DLC, two I couldn't get to in Skellige, and the one with the level forty-something Archgriffin who OHKOs me and takes too long to whittle down to deal with an OHKO situation (I'll be back for you, Griffin). I make a checklist of all the quests before I go to a place and I've cleared White Orchard, Velen, Novigrad and Skellige, but for a couple I googled and are apparently plot dependent later, some that I missed due to choices I don't regret, and a few contracts and treasure hunts that are level 33 or above). Gerald probably has breath that smells like Killer Whale and hears Sirens screaming at crossbow death when it's quiet, but I've got 60,000 crowns, a full (pre-DLC) Gwent deck, some nice lookin' Griffin gear, and a whole book by Dandelion about all the poo poo I've pulled. Time for Ugly Baby and pretty much mainlining the main story from here until I get to a level that I feel like I want a Hearts of Stone detour. I still can't clear Abandoned Inn on Skellige, though. I think it's just glitched. Also, sometimes Monster Dens show as cleared and sometimes they don't. Not sure what that's about. Some of the higher level stuff on Skellige is really, really good. I love that Skellige's Most Wanted references so many earlier quests. I can't put this down and I probably won't until I've one the DLC. Game of the loving year. I hope in Witcher 4: the Gwentening, it's revealed that the last words Gerald heard were from a smuggler saying "Just a ploughin' moment! Are ye telling me that yer the one who took all o' those saddles of my caches? That's enough to send me into a a berserker rage!"
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Honestly, I sort of feel like I could beat him for the exact reason you're saying. He's slow and Quen gives you a nice buffer. But instead of spending a week of rolling around him, I think I'm going to wait. My over-leveled badass fight was a leshen somewhere in Velen. I was holding my own and then he summoned a set of wolves that were ALSO way above my level. I think I actually stood and cheered when I just barely survived.
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Pellisworth posted:do whatever, but you're pretty close to the end of the main quest, maybe another ~5 hours. HOWEVER, finishing the main quest won't lock you out of anything so go ahead and finish it if you want. Ciri is following me at the moment, though. If I manage to find a sign post without falling off a cliff, is it going to let me use it? I suppose I can just check tomorrow morning, I've just been gritting my teeth saying "But both the Cat and the Wolf School sets are available for upgrades, and I can do a quick treasure hunt so that the Bear School is too!" (I'm a little sad I leveled straight past the point where the Nekker Shoes were useful before I could find a stash) The suspense as to which outfit Geralt will be wearing is killing me!
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Fuzz posted:I'm missing one random card in Velen and it's driving me crazy. Nilfgard actually has the best deck, in my opinion, because it's got spies that are 4, 7, and 9 (not counting the hero card who's zero that's universal), but all of them are in the first slot, so you can hit them with a blizzard to neutralize them, plus Nilfgard has the best leader ability that I don't think the others have: to draw from your opponent's discard pile, meaning you can draw one of the spies back next round (or the same round with a scorch). Plus, it's filled with medics, so you can drop the 10 power people in the second and third slots during the round you're beating your own spies, and then just pull them back in the second round (or you can pull back spies your opponent dropped on you if you couldn't decoy them back). You can basically play your entire deck, then play all your non hero cards again. Although, from what I hear the Skellige deck has graveyard hate, so all that might go out the window in the DLC. Bicyclops fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 17, 2017 |
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Xander77 posted:Meditate for a day on the site or far away from it. Monster dens that have an actual name will be cleared once you've looted everything within. Went back and tried this - Abandoned Inn is still glitched, which is fine, but there's a more serious glitch in my file. For some reason, it seems to think the cave full of gentle trolls in Velen is a "Monster" Den  Anyway, apparently I'm a sociopath, because Even after all Vernon Roche did for me, I let Djikstra kill him. He's just right - their deal was bad and virtually ensures a Nilfgardian victory. I still haven't gotten around to Hearts of Stone yet, because I've been too busy building all of my mastercrafted Witcher deal.
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Basically, Vernon Roche seems like a real nice guy and he helped me when the Wild Hunt were wrecking poo poo, and he's also a really good soldier, but he seems to be pretty terrible at politics. Djikstra is an incorrigible rear end in a top hat, but in a way that reminds me of every local, city politician I worked with when I used to help on campaigns. I didn't play the first two games so I don't know poo poo about Thaler.
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Basically I guess I just really hate the King of Nilfgard and want to do everything I possibly can to be the biggest thorn in his side. I've been avoiding taking Geralt to the barber, but I think before I start Hearts of Stone, it's time to give him a new look.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Wait why do you hate Charles Dance? That's who that is! Time to head to IMDB and answer this for everyone else.
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Fuzz posted:Well poo poo, maybe that's it. I only got the card from the quest guy in Skellige. The merchants are always listed as "People of no particular skill" or whatever, I think. Also, they're in a pool together and there are more merchants than you need, so at some point, they'll just stop giving you cards (it may be after the miraculous guide says you're done with them, because you can win a few dupes). If yours has stopped saying "People of no particular skill," and you're sure you got all the quest related ones, you probably forgot to buy Gwent cards from somebody. It's traders and innkeeps that sell them, mostly, so just go to the region you're missing them and backtrack to traders and innkeeps to see if they have them in stock.
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Basically the great thing about Gwent is that you can't miss just one merchant in terms of challenging them for cards, because more of them play than you need cards. You do have to buy from everyone that sells 'em, though. I don't think the game drags too much in Novigrad. It's got this Venice-like feel to it and it's fun doing favors for everybody in the criminal underworld. My only complaint about the Novigrad and Skellige parts of the game is that both force you to interact with height a lot and the game isn't great at it. Sometimes Geralt just clips on things when you're climbing mountains or swimming because the hit boxes for environments are a bit wonky, the quest marker often gets confused, that kind of thing. Nothing is worse than climbing a mountain and suddenly getting dragged into combat with a bunch of harpies.
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redbackground posted:I just finished up the quest with Triss and the outdoor costume ball at that mansion to the east of Novigrad. There is absolutely no way I am not picking Triss at the end of all this, however it plays out. Should Geralt kiss her after scooping her up from falling into the fountain while fireworks go off? HMM LET ME THINK. Triss is made of cardboard and Yen is actually cool, though.
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Dr Cheeto posted:I know, it's called Velen This is what the jesters say on stage at the Chameleon, because whenever there's an actual Velenite in the audience, they can't throw rotten fruit, because that would be a feast for them.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Geralt's nearly 100, according to Vesemir when they first arrive at the inn in White Orchard. Oh, I must have forgotten about that. Do witchers live really long because of the mutagens and sorceresses because of magic or is this one of those typical high fantasy things where everybody lives like 300 years?
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-=Hearts and Stone: a Bicyclops Story=- So, I was going to just dive into the main quest of the DLC, but one of the secondary quests looked like it unlocked a new kind of merchant, so I did that. On the way to him, right next time him, was a yellow exclamation point, and of course, I never pass that up. So I talked to him, beat him in a horse race, then traveled the earth hitting up bandit camps looking for his stuff, hitting any POIs along the way I hadn't traveled. This led to a layered discovery of Treasure Hunts and side quests such that I have now found all of the Hearts of Stone points of interest, completed all but one of the treasure hunts and all but three of the sidequests, and accidentally stumbled upon the main quest on my way to the last point of interest, finally saying "Oh yeah, that was what I'd set off to do." Now I'm level 35, but it doesn't feel a ton different from 30. At both, the things in the DLC definitely pose a threat and you have to pay attention, but as long as you are, in the long run, you're going to prevail. There was one Golem when I was about 31 and he was 37 or so that took loving forever to beat (I think I re-applied oil five times), but other than that, combat (at your level) feels like it's about knowing your enemy's patterns and taking advantage of them, which is both fun to engage with and thematically relevant to the actual game. That it feels like knowing what monster you're fighting and having studied and experienced that monster is the important part is what makes Geralt a seasoned veteran within the story. Anyway, time to actually do the Hearts of Stone main quest (which will, I hope unlock the Treasure Hunt and Secondary Quests I still have to do), then finish the base game main quest. Once I hit level 40, how hard would it be for me to tag into Toussant just to grab my Grandmaster Armor diagrams and then tag out? I'm super bummed that my Cat School gear isn't giving me my sneak attack bonuses on those bandits I'm leaping behind.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Easy to get the diagrams, but they're extremely expensive to get. Talking 20-30k per set easily so the biggest barrier to grandmaster armour is money. Ah, maybe I'll build up my funds a bit then. I'm already half bankrupt from funding the wacky spell man, buying way too much Witcher gear, and also buying the pair of spectacles, which, as far as I can tell so far, do nothing except for add style, and were worth every penny. Dr Cheeto posted:I feel like it could be an interesting game with a human opponent, I'd love to look a man in the eyes and goad him into overcommitting to a round. As Gwent exists in Witcher 3, Northern Realms is kind of broken in my opinion. It's got the strongest card draw of any faction which turns out is really good in a game where you need to make ten cards last across three rounds. I pretty effortlessly made a Northern Realms deck that beat the everliving snot out of any deck that wasn't a siege-focused Northern Realms deck. I could have probably retooled it a bit to mop that one up, but instead I just threw together a siegebreaker Nilfgaard deck. Everyone keeps saying Northern Realms is the best deck when Nilfgard has a leader ability that lets you play a card out of your opponent's discard pile and has just as much card draw through the spies. The extra card at the end of a round is only one card and it doesn't give Northern Realms an enormous card advantage. The Nilfgard deck is better. You can pull your own spy back from your opponents' discard pile after using it and if some Northern Realms fellow actually manages to play a spy that you can't decoy, the deck is absolutely loaded with enough recursion that you can replay their own spies on them from your own discard pile. I pretty much always empty my deck down to about 6-8 cards and win without ever going to round 3. Monsters and Scoia Tael actually are just bad, though. I see their thinking - it has card draw in the form of instantly playing cards from its deck, but they're mostly cards that just get trashed by a good weather card and a scorch, and it isn't enough card draw. Plus playing from their own discard pile blows because they're mostly weaksauce 4-5 things that can't replay their ability to summon their friends. They're just bad decks.
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Goddamn, the ending to Heart of Stone is amazing. I almost wish I hadn't done it before the base game, because it's going to be hard for that ending to live up to Heart of Stone's. I do hope the game starts dumping money once I start Blood and Wine. I spent down from about 60k to 30k making armor and whatnot and have never really recovered from it selling what I loot on quests. I suppose there will be a mountain of Hidden Treasures and Treasure Hunts in Toussant.
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Yeah, like I didn't know anything about Triss using Geralt after having his memories erased, except that she said that she used him one time, but she seems really boring. Her voice actor sounds bored and I don't really know that much about her besides that she wants to save the mages from Radovid. Yennifer's at least a character, even if a lot of her dialogue is weird entendre for no reason. I hope that they do make a Witcher 4, but I'm a little torn on whether I'd want one that is in a totally different place or time in the Witcher universe, or if they focus on one of the Wolf School bros and let you load a save. Lambert just doesn't feel like a full game protagonist and Eskel feels too much like Geralt, but I'd love to play as a different character and encounter Geralt for one of the sidequests, or learn that I hosed myself out of a quest in the new game by making Cerys Queen. On the other hand, playing as a witcher from some previously unheard of school in a distant kingdom would free them up to stretch away from the established lore a bit.
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