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Generic Monk posted:Yeah, if I had to compile a list of poo poo that no one asked for or particularly wanted out of a Bethasda game; 'voiced protagonist' would probably be at the top. You'd be surprised how many people actually wanted this for Skyrim... and the amount of people who would flay themselves if that happened.
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Jun 3, 2015 20:46
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Republican Vampire posted:Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost. How is that different from living in a utopian vault, which we need to leave to face the dark and evil real world? Harrow posted:Well, at least we can be pretty sure that this is what the actual game will look like and we're not being shown some doctored-up marketing graphics. These pictures don't look good enough to be "doctored-up"
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Jun 3, 2015 20:55
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If there's a real problem with the potential engine, it will be about loading screens.AlternateAccount posted:Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters. Just like in every other game, ever.
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Jun 3, 2015 21:03
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AlternateAccount posted:Also I wish Bethesda would acknowledge that their implementation of VATS in a 3rd person FPS is loving dumb and doesn't work and needs a pretty serious rethink. OH LOL I SHOT HIM IN THE DICK LOOOOLLLLL I think I know the problem, but it is not with the game...
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Jun 3, 2015 21:15
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AlternateAccount posted:Derp derp derp, I meant 1st/3rd. I don't know, I am sure someone out there does. Point is that VATS is shoehorned in and stupid. Not really, it is surprisingly well done and works pretty well even though the concept was stupid Phil Tenderpuss posted:Lol how can you defend this poo poo Have you looked at any video game ever?
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Jun 3, 2015 21:23
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Merry Magpie posted:It's older than that. Elements of the engine date back to Morrowind. And the unreal engine dates back to 98, nobody complains about that. Icept posted:The worst part is how long we have to wait until someone competent gets their hands on this franchise again. If they let it happen another time. So definitely not Obsidian
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Jun 3, 2015 21:35
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Phil Tenderpuss posted:Lmao. Really? Yes, I'd rather have an actual Post Apocalyptic wasteland rather than recent, extremely brown battlefields.
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Jun 3, 2015 21:40
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I'm just happy we have real directional lightning this time
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Jun 3, 2015 22:00
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Firstborn posted:Nobody is excited about the new pop culture references? Those are actually something you would see in New Vegas with Wild Wasteland on.
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Jun 3, 2015 22:14
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Mordaedil posted:I want to get excited, I was pretty excited, up until I slowly started to realize that adding voice-acting to the main character is not only going to put some severe restraints on modding, it will absolutely kill the level of roleplaying possible in a narrative. People said the same thing back in Oblivion when voice acting was introduced. I'm betting one of the first mods will be about removing said voices. Groovelord Neato posted:Bizarre because it's really the opposite. I mean the fact that FO3 is good for probably one playthrough when I went through NV four times (since my computer had to be reformatted or replaced between DLCs so I had to replay to get to them). Not sure why people consider the New Vegas maps better. It had literal invisible walls and though enemies to put you in a selected route, a route you have to follow once and never again, if you return you'll feel extremely out of place. For example, was there ever any reason to return to Goodsprings? Not to mention the overall dungeon design and the severe lack of ruins to scavenge.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:35
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Remb posted:Every successive Bethesda title makes the main story less and less open. Their games are all about freeform exploring, yet their focus on a single railroaded narrative contradicts what makes their games unique. Probably because this is not an Elder Scrolls game. All Fallout games, save New Vegas gave you a set backstory. Actually nevermind, even New Vegas gave you a backstory, but it forgot to tell you until you played the DLCs.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:37
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Orange Crush Rush posted:fallout 3 had invisible walls loving everywhere too, especially around Rivet City. Also theres like 7 quests that take place in or around Goodsprings, although you can do them pretty early in the game I suppose The only "invisible walls" were inside the DC ruins because all of those parts were actually their own maps divided by loading screens.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:42
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Fintilgin posted:Just use kickstarter to make off-brand Fallout the way Pillars is off-brand D&D. Off-brand Fallout made by Obsidian would kickstart like $1,000,000,000 dollars. It's called Wasteland 2
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Jun 3, 2015 23:59
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Fallout fans have the worst opinions. I mean people keep saying that Fallout 1 was better than 2, what assholes!
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Jun 4, 2015 00:43
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SunAndSpring posted:[Intelligence] So you're saying Bethesda doesn't have good writers? but but but Morrowind
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Jun 4, 2015 03:22
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ShadowMar posted:Hey guys did you hear Bethesda got rid of playable female characters! My aunt who got fired from Bethesda posted about it on reddit! Well we can see the story is completely different from that leak (no mention of Vault 111, the trailer shows that we came from a Vault) Also that is the same time the fake announcement happened, you know with the morse code and all the hype about androids and the commonwealth.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:43
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Now that I think of it, I don't remember seeing any Behemoths in New Vegas at all. Another proof why Fallout 3 is better.
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Jun 4, 2015 03:54
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FlightyMcWenis posted:Man if everything else she says is true then this is a depressing piece of news. Behaviour Interactive for the unnumbered game? The loving Wet guys who co develop movie franchise tie ins? Why not a team that makes RPGs? Yes, btw, did you know Fallout 4 won't be an RPG either? I mean, have you seen any RPG elements? I don't think so. I would also bet it will be completely linear, no dialog choices either. Now that I think of it, we haven't seen a single first person perspective, so it must be third person only as well. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, THIS GENERATION WILL RUIN EVERYTHING, VIDEO GAMES PEAKED AT THE TIME OF MORROWIND IT'S ALL DOWNHILL FROM THERE
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Jun 4, 2015 15:38
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Generic Monk posted:gamebryo isn't necessarily bad in itself; most of the issues people blame on it can be laid squarely at the door of bethesda's ropey programming, animation work and QA testing. rest assured that if they moved to a new engine it'd likely be worse, and the wait between games would be longer. also creation engine is gamebryo numbnuts! One thing that is the engine's fault and they should somehow fix is how they render things and with it, how loading screens are used. Bethesda games, as far as I know, load everything and renders everything at once, while other open world games nowadays load while you play, which is alright if the system can handle it. They also really like detailed indoors areas, which is why they make all indoors their own zone. It's still up in the air how they did it this time, I know they kept saying in interviews that they wanted to work on next gen titles just to fix these issues and they were even hiring people specializing in this back in the day. Torgo2727 posted:I have some friends that were excited about the trailer, and, in order to hype themselves for Fallout 4, are playing New Vegas. That's what I'm doing as well, but mostly because I never finished New Vegas and the DLCs are the best part. I'm also planning on playing through the other 3 games.
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Jun 4, 2015 17:58
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Remember the part in the trailer where the main guy was stuck in an office with Robots and Androids?
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Jun 5, 2015 03:18
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I'm curious, which things did you guys feel didn't work in New Vegas, without blaming the engine or Bethesda's QA work, just things that were entirely on Obsidian and Fallout 3 genuinely handled better? The world design, dungeon design, encounters, cities. There are also more interesting ideas thrown around in Fallout 3, even if the execution is not that great, like a town built around a grounded aircraft carrier orthe vaults you find...
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Jun 9, 2015 14:41
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Pham Nuwen posted:You're right, it's a drat shame New Vegas didn't have any vaults... No vaults at all It had vaults but not exactly interesting ones.
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Jun 9, 2015 15:08
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twistedmentat posted:So has anything concrete come out about No Lady Wanderer? Or are all the people getting bent out of shape doing it because of that one random reddit post? The other, actually more credible leak completely condraticts it, not to mention that one reddit post came out the same time the fake Fallout 4 reveal happened.
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Jun 10, 2015 02:51
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I got bad news for you: That's good new, according to this, thanks to Guy Fieri we might have less or no loading screens!
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Jun 10, 2015 17:24
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Graevling posted:NMA was right They say F2 was poo poo, so they must be wrong.
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Jun 13, 2015 18:00
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Are you guys just looking for excuses to say "the writing is wrong"? I mean if we are about to sperg how things make no sense, why not complain what Geckos eat? How can huge Scorpions and insects exist at all, because their bodies would not be able to hold together increased mass? How the gently caress are Securitrons considered good design, yes give the robot that's standing on a single tire a rocket launcher, it will NEVER topple over! Where the gently caress do people get electricity? Why are psychic powers considered canon?
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Jun 14, 2015 16:37
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sout posted:How can they chew their food if they can't even lip sync properly!? Have you seen any dentists around? How do people in Fallout still have teeth?
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Jun 14, 2015 16:54
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That modded Fallout looked great
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Jun 15, 2015 04:28
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According to Fallout Lore, flying Power Armor should not exist, thus this game is terrible. Obsidian save us plz
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Jun 15, 2015 04:39
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You know, this trailer reminded me why I liked parts of 3 more than New Vegas. Because it was actually fun.
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Jun 15, 2015 04:44
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Praetorian Mage posted:I'm just not a fan of the forced backstory. I'd prefer if you could choose your backstory based on a couple different variables or something. But you always had forced backstory in Fallout. Volkerball posted:i doubt it will change at all tbh If anything I expect them to axe the whole Skill system.
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Jun 15, 2015 04:47
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Bethesda is poo poo, they are so bad, awful beyond anything, loving hell. Now where can I buy that cool Pipboy edition?
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Jun 15, 2015 04:51
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Todd just said there are Perks in Fallout 4 so you guys can calm down now.
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Jun 15, 2015 05:01
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frajaq posted:I wonder if the rank system is with tiered percentiles, that could cool too If they are ranked, what's the point of percentages?
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Jun 15, 2015 05:19
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Yaos posted:Why isn't that good? Now they can have the character say poo poo without you needing to impulsively read a paragraph of text for every option like previous games. IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE RPGS OF MY DAY! Real RPGs have detailed dialog choices differentiated by your gender, race, intelligence, favourite animal, they also had hundreds of skills measured in 5 digit numbers at least. Oh and of course back in the day we had no such things as voice acting, graphics or user friendly interface, this game has that so that must mean it's not a real RPG.
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Jun 15, 2015 05:38
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I can see this happening. I don't mind it, because skills mattered very little in Bethesda's system anyway, but if Obsidian gets their hands back in the game the percentages will be back and actually tuned properly. I don't think percentage skills were that important in New Vegas, even there you chose 2-3 skills to max out and get all the dialog options for them, for the rest you can use magazines. SPECIAL stats seemed more important since they were pretty hard to change permanently. Orange Crush Rush posted:Why is being concerned that they are taking out all of the RPG elements of an RPG franchise worthy of hyperbole and mockery I react to hyperbole with hyperbole
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Jun 15, 2015 05:43
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:A lot of things needed 80/90 in a base skill, and 100 skill checks were a thing. You can still max out all of them by level 50, but that's just the consequence of leveling up to 50. That's what I said, get 100 on the 2-3 skills you want to specialise in, anything less is not really worth it.
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Jun 15, 2015 05:50
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I hated the part in Fallout 1 where you were a Vault Dweller sent out to get water chips as well, completely ruined my roleplay.
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Jun 15, 2015 12:04
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Why is that every time Bethesda releases a new game, I get reminded why I hate
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Jun 15, 2015 12:15
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