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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Archer666 posted:

Also what's D&D's stance on hot twinks cosplaying as anime characters?

I approve

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


gas thread, ban OP, send all gamergaters to reeducation and reform through labor camps

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Powercrazy posted:

Do you have a list of gamergaters and gamergate sympathizers?

we're not barbarians, this is 2015. the femi-gestapo's got that covered

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I said come in! posted:

Anita Sarkeesian has completely trashed her reputation at this point. Her Twitter account, along with McIntosh, are a comedy gold mine of horrible opinions. These two people are quite literally never satisfied with anything, ever. Their presence on Twitter is just endless complaining about how every single video game is problematic. They wait around for the next big video game release and then they trash the game with awful opinions that are never accurate. Their Witcher 3 and Bayonetta 2 opinions actually caused a lot of supporters to back away from them.

This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I said come in! posted:

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's all about context. Bayonetta makes her outfit and behavior her own, it's clearly shown to not be in the service of others. This is why it's not sexist. Clothing by itself has nothing to do with sexism.

bayonetta doesn't make anything her own, because she's not a person, she's a fictional character created by a japanese dude as fetish pornography after he visited a dominatrix on a trip to london.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Terrible Opinions posted:

Sometimes in service in pointing out that medieval society sucked and needed to change and sometimes because the author wanted to feed their fetish.

oh well as long as it's only sometimes, I guess it's fine

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I said come in! posted:

The fact that it's a fictional character isn't relevant.

:laffo:

you actually think this

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I said come in! posted:

So anyone you disagree with should be murdered by being drugged and hanged? I'm the delusional one here? What?

:qq: You can't be intolerant of my intolerance!!!!!!! :qq:

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Shadoer posted:

We need to have a world devoid of racism and bigotry, where we can all live in peace and harmony together.

And this shining future must be paid for with the blood of our enemies!

Yeah

:ussr:

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Dreylad posted:

I've got a detailed list of how to deal with these SJW idenetity-addicted leftist puritans but i have no idea how to handle people who share child porn on the internet, it's just beyond me

i said labor camps on the very first page dude

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

Zeitgueist is like the Sarah Butts of D&D. Everyone here secretly thinks he's gross and hypocritical but they kind of have to stick up for his hypocritical bullshit because he mostly agrees with them on other things. It's the essence of strange bedfellows. Literally only one person gets off on humiliating minorities for physical pleasure in this debate, but I bet it would shock an outsider which side and how fiercely he was protected.

"we conservatives are the silent majority and if the real world seems to indicate otherwise then reality is wrong. nyaner nyaaner stupid libtard faggots"

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

Bad guys doing bad things in comics is bad! These pretend men need to be stopped!

"I love rape!"

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

If we just remove rape from storytelling it will totally eliminate it from society!

-an idiot

Do you think the Confederate flag should be flying over the SC state capitol?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Bedlamdan posted:

It should be flying in Civil War videogames, IMO.

If the game involves the polemic destruction and condemnation of Confederate society then yeah

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

Is a state capitol building and a comic book full of imaginary people the same thing?

Answer the question thanks

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

One is a reality explicitly endorsed by the government where actual people suffered and the other is make-believe land that anyone who isn't a complete retard can differentiate from reality.

"Comic books and other media aren't real"

Maybe pursue treatment for schizophrenia?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


XMNN posted:

I don't know, what is the difference between government speech and the speech of private citizens?

So bigotry is OK if it's private speech?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


natetimm posted:

All studies point to this actually being true.

Popular Thug Drink posted:

no, all studies point to it being false

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Bholder posted:

Anyone who disagrees with me are clearly of lower stature, less educated or have mental issues.

That is the only explanation as I only speak absolute truth!

If people just came out and said they don't have a moral problem with bigotry and hate speech as long as it's not government endorsed I'd have at least a little more respect for them. As it is I'm not sure who they think they're fooling besides maybe themselves

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008



Okay so why is it acceptable for media to have sexist depictions of women?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Can we make it bannable to call people "far left" unless they're actively guillotining or firing squad-ing people?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


unlimited shrimp posted:

Effectronica seriouspost why are you so intent on dismissing accusations of a callout/outrage culture in certain Leftist circles and particularly in regards to how they conduct themselves on social media?

Because it isn't a real problem

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


unlimited shrimp posted:

That's largely true, yes. That doesn't mean it isn't a thing.

I would say it's potentially a problem if people associate it with Leftist activism as a whole.

People already do that and will do it regardless of reality. So long as bigotry gets even the mildest of criticism from any angle at all, there will be people screaming POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!!!!!!! at the top of their lungs, it's not worth acknowledging them

I mean it's been happening in the real world for like 40 years now, it's only because nerds insulated from the real world for their whole lives are finally starting to run into it that this is even a thing

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 26, 2015

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


unlimited shrimp posted:

Social Justice/anti-oppression activism are totally unable to effectively reconcile the individual with the systemic. Outrage culture is symptomatic of a belief that through individual acts of contrition or shaming, systemic change can be brought about.

I don't think you can have it both ways -- you can't effect change through naming and shaming the Social (Media) Justice Left wants to, though. It wants to say oppression is systemic but then it wants to get its pound of flesh through individual acts of contrition.

Well the real world history of social justice over the last few years is pretty much in direct opposition to everything you're saying, soooooooo.......

Like why the gently caress do you think support for gay marriage is a thing now? Why the gently caress do you think support for interracial marriage is a thing now? Do you think those things just popped out into existence out of the aether?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


INH5 posted:

Civil and Gay Rights activists succeeded by shaming people on Twitter? Funny, I don't remember that being in the history books.

They succeeded through a sustained campaign of making bigotry socially unacceptable, yes? You've cracked the code, congrats

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


It's something else to see a thread full of rhetoric literally lifted directly from Rush Limbaugh circa 1992 and concern trolling about a predicted catastrophe that hasn't happened yet in the 30+ years people have been concern trolling about it

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


The Landstander posted:

Public shaming of homophobes sure was viable political strategy 10 years ago.

Behold my latest masterpiece, The Failure of Identity Politics



icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Fabricated posted:

Yes, those certainly are trend lines.

Okay so evidence that directly contradicts you is wrong because reasons? How are you any different from a libertarian insisting that no matter what, the economy will always be better with less government?

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


The Landstander posted:

I agree this happened, and that it is good, but I don't really see the kind of public shaming connection you're trying to make.


icantfindaname posted:

They succeeded through a sustained campaign of making bigotry socially unacceptable

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Fabricated posted:

Also trying to civilize the Internet is a task for Don Quixote

This country's never shown concern for the size of its prison populations before, I'm sure we can make room for the folks down at 8chan

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Unfunny Poster posted:

So video game press are fat white men overly invested in toys?

it only took 101 pages to figure it out

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


how about this: video games are juvenile poo poo for manchildren and are very often sexist and misogynistic

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


bayonetta is at least mildly sexist but then so are lots and lots of games. remember the big-boobed tiki sex goddess character from far cry 3? i do

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Literally The Worst posted:

Far Cry 3 is a loving trainwreck because the writers couldn't decide what it was about. Is it about how readily players will accept violence in games? Is it about how white savior narratives are stupid? Is it a combination of the two and a condemnation? Who knows! Not the writers.

i think the problem with far cry 3 was that the writers turned out to actually be big fans of white savior narratives, misogyny and violence despite having deluded themselves that they weren't, because they're dumb as loving poo poo upper middle class white male STEM nerds

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Wanderer posted:

It's an interesting critical discussion when you phrase it like that: at what point, if ever, does sexualization/objectification automatically become misogyny? If a creator has deliberately made a character that is attractive, often naked, and constantly performing a blood-spattered burlesque show for the audience, but who is also self-assured, competent, and fearless, with full agency at all times, what does she wind up as?

you're right, this is a question that nobody has every considered or tried to answer before, much less successfully done so, and moreover is an existential roadblock to all social justice criticism and particularly to the criticism "Hey the game about the big-boobed dominatrix wearing a skintight suit made of her own hair and 10 inch heels is sort of oversexualized!"

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


edit: welp nevermind

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


no Tomoko is like 15 in the manga. the manga is also surprisingly progressive and Tomoko is a very good female character IMO, and it's a shame 4channers latched onto it so hard

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