|
So is there a right-wing populist faction in the opposition that's ready to take over when Torrealba is forced out of the leadership position? Because judging by the weakness of Venezuelan liberalism and the way of the world at the moment, I could definitely see Venezuela embracing fascism.
|
#
¿
Feb 1, 2017 14:34
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 13, 2024 13:17 |
|
|
they’re really not trying to hide the fact that they’re a dictatorship now, are they
|
|
#
¿
Dec 11, 2017 01:12
|
|
|
Tesseraction posted:Some of us just read this thread without shoving our views in, tyvm. Unless I’ve missed something I’m p sure you’re not a tankie, so you’re good tbh Anyway, can we all just accept that (a) Maduro (and the PSUV, and any state socialist apparatus by extension) is garbage (b) foreign intervention, especially by the US, to rid Venezuela of Maduro would be even worse Honestly, if this whole thing doesn’t lead to massive distrust in the state as an institution and growing anarchist movements across the country, Venezuela won’t really have learned anything from this ordeal
|
|
#
¿
Jan 28, 2019 23:37
|
|
|
PT6A posted:So if you actually believe that Maduro is evil, and US intervention could make things much worse, then it would follow that you should strongly support the opposition, nah, what I'd really support would be a popular anarchist revolution against any forms of centralised government, but I guess that isn't really an option for the people of Venezuela even though they have no reason to support the state in any form ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
|
|
#
¿
Jan 29, 2019 13:50
|
|
|
Party Plane Jones posted:lol i just noticed the callsign for this ...it's not a coincidence that MAG = Make America Great/M and A are the 13th and 1st letters of the alphabet, isn't it loving brazen Nazis
|
|
#
¿
Jan 30, 2019 01:10
|
|
|
e: lmao disregard all that, apparently it's been in use by the Air Force since at least 2012 http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/2012/07/mode-sads-b-blog-logs-12-july-deltona-fl.html apologies for cluttering up the thread
Venomous fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jan 30, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Jan 30, 2019 01:35
|
|
|
CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:India The same India run by a far-right Hindu nationalist? Uh-huh.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 5, 2019 02:51
|
|
|
Lambert posted:Have there even been many socialist states? Or any? There was Revolutionary Catalonia, but Franco had to ruin that by being a fascist.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 5, 2019 14:09
|
|
|
Mr. Sunshine posted:So all you people pissing yourselves over Guaido wanting to "privatize" stuff - what the hell else do you suggest should be done? tbh I was going to suggest giving workers control over the means of production, but being that (a) the state wouldn’t allow it (b) the capitalists wouldn’t allow it, there really isn’t an ideal solution given the situation
|
|
#
¿
Feb 6, 2019 13:37
|
|
|
FieryBalrog posted:The number of rabid leftwing Maduro apologists in this thread says a lot about the state of SA. you know you had a sliver of a point here in that state socialism in TYOOL 2019 is pretty fuckin bad, as exemplified by Venezuela, but you completely lost me when you went off the rails about the US and Reagan being good and Marxism oppressing POC, sorry bud
|
|
#
¿
Feb 26, 2019 12:59
|
|
|
WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:What if expediting the deposition of the fascist regime reduced that? Is it even a possibility or are you dead set on "nothing will make it better US bad hohum" considering the US is a fascist regime, it’s really kinda bad that you’ve pivoted around to ‘Venezuela is more fascist than the US’ Authoritarian socialism is what it is. Calling it fascism really isn’t helping matters + kinda obfuscates the actual fascists in the US who will gently caress things up even more for the people of Venezuela. Venomous fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Mar 2, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Mar 1, 2019 09:31
|
|
|
WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Maduro proclaimed he would rule by decree. Do you seriously believe the Nazis were socialists because they had the word ‘socialist’ in their name? That is the same line of argument used by ahistorical chuds (usually American fascists) to say that all socialism is bad. Why should the USA, the same country that’s currently imprisoning Central and South American refugees in concentration camps, intervene in Venezuela? Why do you expect US intervention will have a positive impact on the people of Venezuela?
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2019 08:54
|
|
|
Fargin Icehole posted:gently caress socialism, I was born in Venezuela and i left before all dumb poo poo took off, don't label me because you don't like our current US President in 2016-2020 TYOOL Please define socialism, tia
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2019 10:25
|
|
|
Rust Martialis posted:Ah, No True Scotsman appears. In what way was asking for their definition of socialism a No True Scotsman e: to be clear, I firmly believe state socialism =/= socialism Venomous fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Mar 2, 2019 |
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2019 10:40
|
|
|
WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Trolling Jesus Christ 
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2019 17:53
|
|
|
e: nm
|
|
#
¿
Aug 13, 2019 16:48
|
|
|
Tollymain posted:oh no, our strategic mengele-eichmann reserve is running low 'if we are tankies, then the Venezuelan refugees itt must be Nazis' is certainly A Take
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2019 15:32
|
|
|
Tollymain posted:did you just try to call noninterventionism "the new white mans burden" tbf ignoring the voices of actual Venezuelan posters + incessantly posting about how said Venezuelans are actually Nazis who support US intervention is coloniser bullshit, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2019 16:01
|
|
|
Statements that everyone itt can unequivocally agree with: 1. Maduro is bad, because he's suspended democracy and, amongst other crimes, has been starving his people since his accession to power. 2. The PSUV is bad, because it's full of sycophants propping up Maduro's regime. 3. The US is bad, because it's a fascist dictatorship which regularly destabilises and plunders South American nations for its own benefit. 4. US intervention is bad, because 3. 5. US sanctions are bad, because even if Maduro wasn't willingly starving the Venezuelan people, they sure as poo poo aren't making things any better. 6. The opposition is also bad because the majority of opposition members are either pro-US neoliberals or fascists. 7. Venezuela's only option (besides social anarchist revolution) is to depose Maduro from inside without any US intervention and form a democratically elected government which rejects Chavismo, neoliberalism, and fascism. Have I got this all right?
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2019 17:03
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 13, 2024 13:17 |
|
|
Giggle Goose posted:the German government straight up put Lenin and some of his fellow exiles on a special diplomatically sealed train car and sent them back to Russia in order to destabilize the government. So what you're saying is that Kaiser Wilhelm was a dumbass autocrat who wasn't thinking in any way rationally and believed the loving Bolsheviks would be completely submissive to German hegemony after he won the war, right? That really worked out well for him. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
¿
Aug 29, 2019 12:45
|
|