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Captain Invictus posted:

Delicious Dungeon updated.

Yet another fantastic chapter, and this one's not even in the same dungeon! It's got some great world-building, I didn't expect that honestly.

It never occurred to me that there were dungeons outside of this main one but it makes sense when you think back to chapter 1 where Senshi talks about how people already used slimes for cooking and again with the Mandrakes having a competitive growing scene.

Mikl posted:

The author's other works (Terrarium in a Drawer, The Dragon's Seven Adorable Children) show that he's consistently good at blending the fantastic with the ordinary and at worldbuilding, and Delicious Dungeon is no exception.

I see this get nitpicked on the chans, but the mangaka Kui Ryoku is a woman.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2015 22:31

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 01:51

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AgentHaiTo posted:

LOL when Laius just gave Marcille that piece of tentaclus while she was sick and couldn't refuse.

Also, if that new dwarf just thonked Laius on the head with the arrow, why did the monster let them go? I must have missed it. Did Laius' snail sword do something?

Going by the ears and fact that she smelled the group way ahead of anyone else I think she's a Halfling. Just one that really loves equipment.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2015 22:13

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Clarste posted:

So Namari is a dwarf, right? She's an expert in craftmanship and physically tougher than a human.

I want to say she's an atypical halfling that has a stockier build and and a thing for equipment. But dwarf is a safe bet at least. It's her ears and sharp senses that throw me off.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2015 05:05

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I could see GURPS Dungeon Fantasy being a good base for a Dungeon Meshi campaign. But the game would also need some front loading of monster carves and their nutritional values whatever system you would use.

# ¿ Dec 26, 2015 03:50

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Mighty Dicktron posted:

That chapter owned.

I wish the joke outfits in Monster Hunter were as good as this.

# ¿ Feb 19, 2016 07:53

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K. Flaps posted:

Toaru Ossan no VRMMO Katsudouki

I've yet to read an MMO themed comic where the concept of a Utility class isn't some bizarre alien concept to the playerbase. Maybe things have changed but when I was active with runescape and everquest years ago I spent most of my time mining ore and smithing for my guild so we could have armor and cash inflow.

# ¿ May 12, 2016 16:26

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Everything Burrito posted:

e: oh yeah, I didn't see it mentioned but I was reading Konjiki no Word Master - Yuusha Yonin ni Makikomareta Unique Cheat up until this latest chapter but I'm done. It wasn't really my thing to start with and I mostly kept reading it because I'd followed it and couldn't be assed to delete it off my list, but it might be something one of y'all would like more than I did.

Read about 10 chapters and don't feel like going any further than that. Not even Shield Hero had a protagonist as abrasive as this guyo and he arguably had more reasons to be that way. That guy is pure edge and angst and not even in highschool would that have been interesting enough to carry what's become the glut of "sent to fantasy land" cliche stories. Everyone is more interesting than him, there are at least three more interesting premises that are wasted because Hiiro just wants to be a cardboard cutout.

So yeah it's bad.

# ¿ May 15, 2016 04:03

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Superstring posted:

This is true, it's also a bit more overtly D&D-esque. You pinpoint the exact moment the group changed editions.

Which is fitting since the original idea sprang from a series of D&D session transcripts (replays).

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 07:40

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Xun posted:

Yeah I thought the idea was dragons slept most of the time so stuff gets digested slower

They dragon's not being asleep is an odd point. I'm of the mind that the skeleton isn't Farlyn's but probably one of a female orc (since males have horns on their heads). Doesn't explain why the staff found its way inside the dragon though. But since we never see Farlyn get eaten I'm still holding out that she's just deeper in the dungeon.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2016 16:58

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Clarste posted:

They saw Farlyn get eaten though, didn't they? And the dragon was also identified. I didn't feel like there was any room for ambiguity; if that's not her skull then that just means that there's even less of her body left.

They never see her get swallowed. She's in it's mouth until she casts the teleportation spell and after that nobody knows.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2016 04:06

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I'm just going to say that there is a new chapter of Sweet Dreams in Demon Castle and I'll just leave this excerpt here.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 13:38

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AnonSpore posted:

I Thought I Would Starve Looking for My Little Sister Who Got Devoured by a Dragon, but It Turns out You Can Just Eat the Dungeon

That's the Dr. Strangelove variant cover.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2016 06:40

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nielsm posted:

Poor Senshi.

I like to imagine that Senshi is the only one who can see the flavor text for each dish.

This chapter was a roller coaster of information and action.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2016 19:34

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Kudos to the artist for making a character go from terrifying to cute in the span of a chapter.

Shame we'll get a hiatus but this chapter is almost perfect for setting up a break.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 15:59

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Mikl posted:

Still think Dinners & Dragon is the best choice.

Only if we have fantasy Guy Fieri show up for a chapter to comment on the taste of Dire Boar ribs.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2017 01:51

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DrSunshine posted:

I'm rather fond of the so-hypercompetent-it's-kinda-scary secretary trope!

I feel bad for the Demon King, he doesn't know what's about to happen to him but on the plus side his infrastructure is about to get a massive boost.

# ¿ May 11, 2017 06:07

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7c Nickel posted:

Proper Petrification Positioning Prevents Potential Pulverization

There is a none-to-subtle horror in knowing that whatever post you pick may be the only thing people remember you for in the coming years.

# ¿ May 14, 2017 06:51

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Nate RFB posted:

Dungeon Meshi 35

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Short chapter but it still feels like it started and stopped at the right points. Shame we have to wait a month to see what Kabru is up too. Someone should also get Sureau a plate or five. The man is malnourished and he should have learned his lesson from last time.

The feathered chick interests me a lot too. At first I had her pegged as the groups priest but it also looks like she's a summoner and/or beast tamer.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 18:30

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advokat posted:

It's not a huge leap that someone in a Japanese party summoned (or turned into?) a Japanese-looking monster, no. I guess my question is, which one?

(And yeah, Google says that's probably an Ushioni.)

If I'm not mistaken, one of the character classes from a later wizardry game is the Onmyouji. From what I know about Japanese mythology (through Shaman King), they were spiritualist who were said to be able to control various spirits and Youkai. Of which oni fall under that banner.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2017 19:53

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I don't know what makes this worse
Knowing that I have to wait until October to see what happens next, or thinking in the back of my head that Farlyn looked radiant while crushing people to death.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 15:06

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DrSunshine posted:

It also lessens the impact of the whole tpk going on right now because you know that they can all get resurrected at some point. Although this deep in the dungeon, it's probably less likely if you get tpk'ed, that anyone will be there soon to drag your corpse out.

There is still the possibility of resurrection complications due to the whole 1/13th rule. At least as it applies to Sureau's priest and the dog, they were straight up crushed under the weight of Farlyn. So while the ninja's are easy enough to rez, I don't know how the rules of healing will apply to a pulped upper body.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 17:15

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Snooze Cruise posted:

So I just binge my way through the series and with this chapter dropping I did a perfect time to do so. Jesus Christ.
It really does feel like a DND game where the DM was like "oh here is a goofy idea, lets have a sort little campaign based around eating monsters" and then the Elf player does something she shouldn't have done and the DM is like "oh, I can use this."

The current encounter could have also been avoided had Chilchack or anyone else stopped Maizuru from making the fire produce so much smoke. The main group was careful to not draw attention to themselves prior to this especially with the miniature drakes patrolling the skies.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 19:40

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I think everyone would have appreciated getting the drop on Farlyn in her current state than the other way around.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 19:45

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

that was probably never going to happen. the terrain was reshaping itself to help her and hinder intruders.

Then the setup is this. Farlyn needs space and presumably time to get to places which is why the harpies arrive sooner than she does. If Laius and Co. had not been ambushed they would still be dealing with the current conflict over the revival of Farlyn and Sureau's anger. But assuming that people start moving the main group was still able to evade detection successfully from the smaller creatures.

Her size works against her in that she either has to navigate the larger streets and buildings, or has to utilize the rooftops. The latter could make it easier to spot her especially if the ninjas and catgirl are present. It would have been interesting to see but it can still go so many ways. They are at a numbers disadvantage and all it takes is one creature spotting the group for Farlyn to be drawn to them. Maybe they could have spotted her first and maybe not.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 20:32

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I don't think that it was going to go well with this encounter but seeing her first is better than the current situation.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 02:09

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Insurrectionist posted:

Actually, I think you'll find only MOST of the cute Japanese girls have left.

Granted I don't think we've properly ascertained that the remaining one is actually from not-Japan, but presumably.

If you haven't already, you should read the Prototype one shot. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised to see how the original party was composed and how that relates to current events.

# ¿ Oct 13, 2017 22:02

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What works for the deduction is that there are two layers of information we can use. Something obvious that gets called into question a bit later, and a smaller visual detail that shows how much the Laius knows people.
Chillchack indeed isn't the type to ask for help, but the fact that the same chillchack uses curses in the common tongue despite chapters ago he had a statement about there not being enough insults in common and resorting to halfling ones. But the fake is the one doing the thing that Chillchack almost lost a leg for.

Marcille isn't keen on eating the eggs of humanoids, but the other Marcille masks this by saying it's all for Farlyn with a defeatist attitude. But how she handles water is the clue as well.

Senshi isn't really a hard guess since we all know the square nose one is the fake. But the statement about gathering all the eggs flew under my radar completely.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 16:37

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ZiegeDame posted:

https://bato.to/reader#976eaab31ac09d81_22

We got concentrated smug/proud sister and Marcille with her hair over the eyes. That was a good page.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 22:03

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GlenQuagmire posted:

It's been a while, but Dungeon Meshi is finally back:
https://mangadex.com/chapter/84083/1

wasting good food
There are many ways to make a character unlikeable, and this is one of them.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2018 17:33

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EponymousMrYar posted:

Laius truly is a man's dog.

A dog man.

A man who thinks like a dog.

On all levels but Physical, he is already a doge.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2018 03:55

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7c Nickel posted:

So... how many nipples DOES she have?

She looks like she was crossed with a standard piebald cat, but looking it up it seems domestic cats can have between four to ten nipples. I didn't know that was something that could vary so much within a species. Rule of Two says she should have two nipples per standard litter but magic means that might not reliable. Her body shape is mostly human, so that suggests two. Really, they should have just let him count.

Guess you'll have to wait for the next Daydream Hour when Kui draws all the characters in Swimsuits and you can count the cats bikini tops.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2018 21:54

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It's not so much that Isekai is unique in being escapist fiction, it's that the current era seems to be more heavily dominated by the type of escapism that's centered around giving readers an implacable main character who is borderline a mary sue. Back in the 90s and 00s, the kinds of stories I would see were more typical of Narnia or Alice in Wonderland format, a person traveling to a place while also leaving behind some issue or conflict in the real world only for them to return to the real world after their adventure with the newfound courage/knowledge to confront that thing. So anime like Now and Then, Here and There or Escaflowne. You would still see stories like the John Carter stories (from what I remember of the books) where the main character just stays in their new location but I don't remember them being in the majority these types of stories on either side of the Pacific.

Fast forward to some time in the mid-late 00s and reincarnation really started too boom as a plot hook in at least Japanese isekai. Main characters are also given a lot more power to the point of invalidating any actual journey of self discovery, and by extension no responsibility to return too since they are effectively dead as far as Earth is concerned. It's led to so many really basic stories stripped of any journey and replaced with an OPMC who just walks through conflict and dances around their ever growing harem. And that's not to say it's all bad but it's made it so that it's harder for me to find stories that really grip in this genre.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2018 21:05

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DrSunshine posted:

I, for one, would really love to see a manga adaptation of the OG isekai LN -- A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

That monkeys paw would lead to merlin being a 300yo loli.

# ¿ Jul 11, 2018 22:11

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EponymousMrYar posted:

In a perfect world it'd be disney's Sword in the Stone version of Merlin with guest appearance by Madam Mim.

I wonder how Hank would react to becoming a squirrel?

Paracelsus posted:

I dunno, the "sticking your dick in a power outlet" genre is rather hard to make work well.

The thing is all those hack writers just go right from the MC seeing the plug to putting their dick in it. They don't bother to develop anything in the situation or even give the outlet a defined character. There's no tension or drama. Just imagine if you saw the MC see the outlet. Then it gets stuck in his mind, the shape of it, the voltage. He starts staring hungrily at the outlet for 5 chapters and then after some emotional buildup he goes for it? It's not groundbreaking writing but it's better than what we already get.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 04:20

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EponymousMrYar posted:

Video Game mechanics can be just as interesting as exploring a new world. See The Gamer a Korean web-comic/manwha where the main character gets korean MMO powers and stats and applies them to real life. And it mostly explores how crazy that can get.

There was a book I'd read back in high school called 'Heir Apparent' which was about a girl who gets trapped inside a VR game and basically has to figure out how to survive the scenario to end the game otherwise her brain is going to cook inside her skull. She can die in the game but it just resets her to the start of the scenario every time so she can use that to her advantage but dying means she's lost time for her own survival.

It's not in the same vein of item and mechanic exploitation like with The Gamer or Overlord, so much as it is her figuring out who to talk too and how to acquire the limited number of enchanted items that will be helpful. But I think it's a good example of game mechanics and the framework they provide can be a benefit to the story and not just an excuse for the author to not actually develop his setting or world.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2018 01:58

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Mors Rattus posted:

That's Re:Monster, it's loving awful, don't read it.

It's aggressively bad in a way I don't see often. Not even talking about the hentai aphrodisiac nonsense, But the MC is just this blatant Gary Stu that can "do no wrong" and always gets the right skill for the task with no brakes on his progress and everyone loves him even though he's technically the next demon overlord in the making. Yeesh, I regret picking that one up.

LibrarianCroaker posted:

Humans are the Strongest Race ~Starting a Slow Life with an Elf Wife in a Different World~

It's only got two chapters so I don't know how creepy it'll get.

So it's going to be another kingdom builder type story?

# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 14:34

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Sounds like Spirit Migration
https://mangadex.org/title/14437/spirit-migration

# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 23:53

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Mors Rattus posted:

Spirit Migration was pretty much fine but it got axed, and the ending is pretty abrupt.

That was my thought as well. It was a simple story but had an overall likeable cast and a neat gimmick.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 23:59

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Jackard posted:

so why does no one else do that

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

the mc can only be special when everyone around him is written to be unnaturally stupid.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2018 16:23

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 01:51

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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bravest but he has a point about the church's design. At the very least if you have an eye for architecture it shows a lack of research on the artists behalf to create a western-style cathedral that is consistent with a particular time period or style of architecture, as well as not maintaining continuity with it's layout. At worst it also undermines the notion of what the church is about and is just coded as 'It's a vaguely christian church' if the idea is supposed to be different.

Granted I don't read this series and didn't even know what was wrong with the first picture posted until it was explained.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 23:26

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