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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Cerv posted:

"purple - the colour of death!"
"no, the light of immortality!"

who writes this poo poo?

I thought most of the dialog in this episode was lacking, but that third act is was when it really went into the toilet. See

Slowpoke! posted:

Like when she shouts out "I care! Oh god, I care!" immediately after killing Sam.

For another example.

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I think the take away lesson everyone should have from this episode is that Peter Harness is really lovely with metaphors and he should stop trying to write with them before he hurts someone.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Jerusalem posted:

The Inversion turns out to be that the doctor is in an Inferno-esque alternate reality!

No goatees eyepatches, though!

Just to mention something else that threw me about this episode, I was surprised at how violent it was. Violence in Doctor Who can be gruesome, but it also tends to be disconnected from reality. By trying to put things in a closer to real world context, it made the very high body count in this episode even worse for me.

Is this the story with the most on-screen-character deaths? (Obviously not all the deaths are on screen, I mean that characters we see on screen got massacred this time around.)

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Burkion posted:

And again, even if worst comes to worst- we still have Talons as The Racist Who.

I think the real question here is if Talons is more racist than The Celestial Toymaker.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Spatula City posted:

STEVEN MOFFAT WANTS YOU TO BE AFRAID OF FOUND FOOTAGE FILMS, LITTLE TIMMY.

About time that he uses this power for good instead of evil amusement.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Rochallor posted:

That was one of the more baffling aspects of the episode. Like, Japan's gotta take quite a trip to get all the way around to India, all the way around Australia unless it wants to take parts of Indonesia with it. It almost seems like a mean-spirited parody of the show's (laudable) efforts to show various countries in space in the future.

You mean the crater where Australia and Indonesia were before the Great Catastrophe?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Jerusalem posted:

Unless I'm missing something, only one person has compared it to Love and Monsters/Daleks in Manhattan?

I think this wasn't a good episode, but it's not even the worst episode of season 9 (sadly).

I'd put it on the low end of Doctor Who episodes, but in a "second worst of the season" way (since every season seems to have one completely egregious episode in it).

I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet, but I hated the direction and editing in the episode which was representative of what's usually wrong with the found footage genre. A lot of the cheapness of the look of this episode came from how badly it was shot, I think.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

I wonder if his skulls affected the local gravity due to 2 billion years worth of extra skull mass coming into existence?

There's a lot of "Wait, what about that?" in this episode, but I don't care because it was so good.

Loved the score in this episode which is something I haven't really found notable in while. It just sounded fantastic.

I have to admit, however, that I'm not looking forward to an episode set on Gallifrey. The times that Gallifrey has not been a complete bore are the rare exception on Doctor Who...

Also, with the Doctor's speech at the end, I swear I thought he was going to say that the hybrid was "half-human" and kick off groans from everyone happy to have let that bit of the TV movie fade away.

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Burkion posted:

You can name it.

It was only once.


War Games.

I was counting War Games and The Deadly Assassin which mainly gets a pass for actually making things seem kind of weird and baroque before everyone decided that pale reflections of that were all Gallifrey could ever be. And of course Day of the Doctor is a good story despite the Gallifrey scenes.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Irony Be My Shield posted:

I don't think the groundhog loop was intentional on the part of the captors, it's something The Doctor instigated himself. Then again we don't know their motives right nowm

Yeah, the Doctor realized he could create a loop instead of caving in and telling his captors what they wanted. You could say he's one hell of a bird.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Vanderdeath posted:

Why do they keep bringing Gallifrey back and then doing absolutely jackshit with it? Going back to Gallifrey has lost all meaning at this point.

Moving Something Awful to the Matrix Cloud seems to have really screwed things up. We're getting posts from 1983, all of a sudden.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



CobiWann posted:

In my day, companions didn't get long, epic goodbyes. They crashed into the Earth's surface and that was it!

Or fell in love with some guy they just met and left. "So long, Doctor! I've got a new boyfriend!" and no need for anything else.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



After watching Doctor Who, I feel a need to be weirdly pedantic and obsess over small details, so let me say that I like the new sonic screwdriver's look and I'll be happy if we're seeing the backside of the sonic sunglasses. The sunglasses made me go, "Okay, I see what they're doing here and I like the idea, but not the execution." It was like this season was about the Doctor's mid-life crisis and trying to fool himself that he's still as cool as he was forty years ago.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



CobiWann posted:

I enjoyed Planet of Evil, even with its flaws. The script might be a bit off and the monsters do not hold up after over forty years, but the set design, both alien planet and interior ship, is absolutely stunning, and the chemistry between Sarah Jane and the Doctor is already in place. Recommended, with a grain of salt.

Planet of Evil was one of my favorites when I was a kid. Rewatching it recently, could see the rough edges more but I still liked it.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Rochallor posted:

I just saw this. It's a...slightly less bizarre collection than last time, but still really all over the place.

Of the ones included that I've heard, I'd only recommend The Fearmonger and The Marian Conspiracy. So you could go to Big Finish directly and pay $6 for those instead of $12.50 for those plus a bunch of weak to mediocre audios.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Astroman posted:

I don't know if it was the writing, how Kingston played it, or just the chemistry between the two of them, but this is the best River has been since her first appearance. Really melancholy and sweet episode with great moments between her and Capaldi. I can handwave the whole bit about her trying to save him at Trenzalore with her force ghost Library avatar and not knowing he had at least one more regeneration on the strength of how good this was.

I think it was because this time Moffat finally got the playful tone he tries for with River right. Usually it comes across as insufferable, but it worked here. Moving the Doctor to a more outsider view of her helped, I think, since we got him being annoyed with her behavior. And while she was unaware of the entire situation, she was still generally in control; that took away the infallibility she picked up while still not really undermining her.

When they got back to the TARDIS I smiled when I realized that the Doctor would get to do the "bigger on the inside!" reaction. Capaldi had way too much fun with that.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Jerusalem posted:

Anyway, picking on the new guy time - who the hell does this Patrick Troughton dude think he is? Robin Hood as the Doctor, pffft, like that'll ever work. It's a dumbing down of the show is what it is!

Jerusalem posted:

Show lost its way after Carole Ann Ford left, hasn't been the same since :colbert:

When I watched Doctor Who as a kid I actually picked it up early on in the Hartnell run. So I started at effectively the beginning and watched a story each week So a few months after I started watching I tuned in one week and they had changed the actor! It was a huge shock for me. I had gotten used to seeing companions come and go and knew I was somehow missing episodes even though I watched every Saturday night (they kept talking about this adventure with Marco Polo that I somehow missed), but a whole new guy playing the Doctor? That was pretty extreme! That new companion Jamie was pretty cool, though, and how did I miss that story involving the highlanders?

And just to make things worse, this was before Tomb of the Cybermen had been recovered so the story I got introduced to them with was The Dominators. And then to add insult to injury, for some reason they repeated the Dominators every week for a month. I came around, of course, but that was a pretty drastic shift that went very badly thanks to circumstances.

The benefit of watching the show this way was that when I stayed up half the night watching The War Games, the ending was completely worth it.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Ms Boods posted:

The real trial by fire was watching a PBS version of the War Games during a pledge drive. :patriot: WNJS, c. mid-1980s.

I remember during one PBS pledge drive in my city they had some guy dressed up Davros. I don't think it was actually Terry Molloy and he didn't say anything (since presumably PBS couldn't do the voice modulation), but he glared menacingly at the phone bank.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




The more horrifying thing in that article is that Max Landis has adapted Douglas Adams.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Burkion posted:

How the hell have Daleks been in more porn parodies than the Doctor.

Because you can add "of the Daleks" to so many naughty words.

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Nov 27, 2009



After The War posted:

Charming. I still remember reading that as a kid and thinking "what is wrong with this guy?"

Which is really everyone's reaction to Harlan Ellison.

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