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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Arcsquad12 posted:

I watched the trailer for the fourth episode of Origin. Am I right in assuming from the footage that they will actually show Operation British?

If it's finishing up Origin's pre-series material then yes, the manga covers Operation British and spends a few pages detailing its global impacts.

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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/RyougaSaotome/status/754822569648357377
https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/754827894627635200
https://twitter.com/Good_Haro/status/754830901213888516

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

This one's funnier
https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/754831132445794304

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

mr. stefan posted:

its common enough that a famous singer reciting the gihren zabi funeral speech at a concert was met with striaght up applause and cheers.

I think it's possible to think the famous badguy speech is cool without being a neonazi

https://youtu.be/AEJ7My5us28

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/764508852939321344

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Tomino, 1998 posted:

What I want modern day Gundam fans to understand is that Gundam wasn't nurtured by the PlaModel enthusiasts. It was young women who first came to the after recording studio, and Gundam is a work that began with their support. And it was a work that had no connection to the popularity of Gundam PlaModels. So I think the most important thing is creating a work that will attract those kind of girls to it again. I don't think movies as an entertainment industry can succeed without touching on that kind of fundamental portion.
https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/773720945802481664

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

“The very first fans of the original Gundam were young women. Definitely not the PlaModel enthusiasts."
"With both Gundam and Raideen, of the first fans to be active, 90% were girls. Among a gathering of 1000 fans, about 100 were boys."

e:
“Around when the first cour ended, young women began to gather to the after recording studio." (1)
“It took until much later for male fans make an uproar, around the time series got canceled. I thought: You’re late to the party!” (2)

"To sum it up:
1. Young girls were among the earliest supporters [of Gundam]
2. He was surprised and excited to see them waiting outside the recording studio.
3. He appreciated that they were attracted to the story/characters over the merchandising/genre trappings.
4. He hates PlaModel fans (lol)."

Motto fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Sep 8, 2016

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

reminder of the best version of 0079

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

It's War for Earth for PC, Mac, and PS1. also has the best Char

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Short interview with Yas, from Girl's Gundam (9/23/2009)

quote:

Amuro Ray, Who Might Have Been Japanese
Women have such a myriad of ways of enjoying a work. It’s truly commendable. Any time I try slipping things in to appeal to them specifically, it proves entirely unnecessary (laughs).

Gundam was a project where the character designs were settled on very easily. A big-eyed boy with curly hair who wasn’t cheerful or, frankly, especially handsome… in other words, an anime hero quite unlike the ones who had come before him. When Tomino, the director, approached me with this concept for the lead, I had already been imagining such a character. It was as if we had read each other’s minds, and Amuro’s design was quickly finalized.

Since Amuro wasn’t going to be handsome, we decided to make his adversary Char Aznable good-looking instead. This move was inspired by Sharkin of Raideen (a show Tomino and I had worked on previously) who had been well-received by female fans; through him I learned villains could also make a strong impression. But since being attractive by itself isn’t interesting, Char needed an individual element to distinguish. Thus, the mask to conceal his face. This had the added benefit of giving him an air of mystery! Call it haphazard or superficial of us (laughs).

As for Bright Noa, he’s nineteen but mentally much older. Role-wise, he’s the middle management type. So I gave him his hairstyle imagining he’d develop a widow’s peak in a few years (laughs).

The biggest factor behind us being able to design the cast so freely was the TV programming agency getting lax with their inspections. Normally they’d go over everything and make demands, like: The hero must be Japanese! He must be handsome and he must be cheerful! But with Gundam, they let it all pass. I had even thought up a backup setting for Amuro that changed the Ray in his name to Rei and listed his birthplace as being in the mountains of Shimane, but we didn’t up needing it (laughs). On the subject, the characters of Mirai Yashima and Hayato Kobayashi came from this hidden agenda of wanting to portray the Japanese in supporting instead of starring roles for a change. That’s also why they’re shorter and plumper, with smaller eyes (laughs).

Regarding the costumes, I tried to add some fun touches. I felt that the Federation uniforms would look unappealing if the colors were too military-like, so I went with a 19th century-esque, French Tricolore-inspired overall palette. In contrast, I gave the Zeon uniforms more traditional coloring, hoping to evoke the image of pre-war Germany; less Nazi, more Prussian. I wanted outfits that kids could cosplay by dressing up their school uniforms. I even hoped the really dedicated girls would do pair looks with their boyfriends (laughs). And sure enough, the cosplayers appeared. I remember ecstatically exclaiming: “Yes! There they are!”


quote:

A Work Becomes Appealing The More People Play With It
Looking back, Gundam came out during the transitional period when anime was moving away from the standard hero route of story-telling. So while it’s a military drama, there are still some unrealistic bits. Take Char’s cape, for example. I wanted him to wear one, but if it were too long, it would look cartoonish… so I made it waist-length. As for his helmet, those horns serve no purpose beyond being dangerous, but I figured an anime character requires some extra ornamentation (laughs). I troubled myself over these details a lot, and even taking the middle road, things got messy (laughs).

But there were people who had fun with such details via parody. I remember them calling Char’s cape ‘The Cockroach Mantle’ and remarking on how he looked ‘pretty adorable’ scurrying away from battle in it (laughs). Garma, the narcissist rich boy, got called cute and became far more popular with female fans than we anticipated. Even the freckled weakling Kai had admirers. As for Amuro, many girls said he was the kind of character they couldn’t leave alone, that they wanted to take care of him.

This was around the time light parody doujinshi culture, which included yaoi, was growing with women at the core. It was completely unlike the old-mannish parody works being made up until then. It was fresh, and took me by surprise. Some were angered by it, claiming it made a mockery of the source material, but I didn’t think so. It was brand-new culture. So while keeping in mind issues of copyright, be it parody, fangirling, yaoi or cosplay… I’d like to encourage everyone to continue enjoying Gundam in their own unique way.
http://khodazat.tumblr.com/post/151859727204/gundam-creators-interview-yoshikazu-yasuhiko-from

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Darth Walrus posted:

Thunderbolt has issues with its female characters, and they're most apparent in the arc that the anime covers. So hope you don't find that too offputting.

How so? I dunno anything about Thunderbolt beyond the premise.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Ethiser posted:

Thunderbolt manga spoilers. The federation captain is still alive and has amnesia. She's a part of an evil Buddhist Newtype cult.

Hate it when that happens.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/NozomiEnt/status/793908003908915200

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Guess they're just releasing A Gundam then. :v:

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

The Turn A upgrade thing: $25USD/$35CAD with return of the DVD version through March 7, shipping included for US and Shipping+Tax for canada.

https://twitter.com/RyougaSaotome/status/794300170556977156

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Azran posted:

I never watched G Gundam but I was under the impression Sai was a girl :downs:

I did and was still under that impression as a kid. :v:

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Being twitter this is just a random sample, but I thought this was neat (second references the first):

https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/807884418937450496

https://twitter.com/80s_anime/status/809628087642181632

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I can believe in the Federation's corruption and such on account of it being A Government.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

0079 is good

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Bloody Pom posted:

Woah hold up SRW V has a competent English translation? I thought the Singapore releases were always hilariously bad?

Moon Dwellers was functional but clunky, SRW V and the last SD Gundam game are good. V has some inconsistent terms and mistranslated mechanical text but the dialogue is fun.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Snooze Cruise posted:

Origin makes Amuro cuter, Sayla badasser, and has plenty of Kai Time.

Every hour should be a Kai Time hour.

This is all good, but not as important as Bright constantly being on the verge of a panic attack and getting embarrassed in front of Revil.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I'm glad tomino wants to destroy capitalism

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

quote:

“During the Obama administration there was a plan to send people to Mars. It's complete nonsense. There's no point in doing that. There's nothing there.

“The idea that we need to escape the Earth due to environmental pollution is just science fiction. I suppose this might be a quite shocking remark to make but the solution should be to stop the human population from growing any further and find some way to reduce it by at least half over a period of time. We need to re-organise and plan our civilisation to use the available natural resources on the planet for the next ten thousand years or so. I'd almost say that capitalism in its current form shouldn't be really allowed. I believe the modern world is a miserable result of the entire world focusing only about the economy.”

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Hi didn't do it while screaming "FULL SPACE COMMUNISM NOW"

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Build Fighters and Try are on crunchy now.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Wing on crunchy too now.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/gundam_info/status/850892375257907200

Don't wanna jump the gun as someone who can't actually read this, but machine tl gives me than a new Reconguista thing is in planning.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

MitchFM posted:

I think I entirely hate all of UC Gundam ... I'm going in order, from 0079 I am at ZZ. The pain is unbearable, Tomino is a horrible producer/director... :nexus: All that teemage angst is unbearable the running gag with kids aboard the ship while fighting a major war :gay: The story board just doesn't run to well for me :colbert:

Have you considered not watching 100+ episodes of something you're predisposed to dislike

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Arcsquad12 posted:

Does Origin confirm or deny the Zabi's involvement with Revil's escape following the destruction of the Ananke?

Degwin strikes a deal in exchange for working to end hostilities with Zeon, but Revil instead gives the "Zeon is exhausted" speech.

Motto fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Apr 28, 2017

Motto
Aug 3, 2013


good

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I think there might be a Zeta manga that follows Origin, but it's neither by Yas or particularly good so who cares.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I don't think it did super well but Gundam was already in a rut due to supersaturation and stuff as evidenced by X.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

For the moment it's only covering the flashback volumes, but it'd be entirely unsurprising for more OVAs to get announced soon after.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

A movie about a Ball and a Zakrello working together to make an Igloo. Feel free to call Banrise.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Impersonating a minor, retired dub VA of all things is a real odd one.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Gundam portraying individual soldiers as sympathetic is something that goes all the way back to 0079, where entire eps are dedicated to rando zeon soldiers being decent guys (and the opposite for rando feds).

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I've only seen the OP but there's an SD with a laser scarf piloted by someone with a ninja avatar, so that's great.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

At its best it's just a pretty good tourney show with enjoyable characters bouncing off each other and developing their rivalries and shared passions and all that plus well-animated fights that don't have to worry about the combatants getting totally wrecked. If you're not into that over the at least nominally more serious narrative driven war/politics entries it's not weird for it not to be your thing.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Is there any particular reason why (western at least) gundam fans seem to universally hate the newtype deal, and it being so prevalent despite that?

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Motto
Aug 3, 2013

https://twitter.com/feezy_feez/status/980174609344380928?s=19

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